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Re: Vintage copy of the Tiger's Fang?

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  • etznab18
    The message 8356 did come up when I searched for it. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eckankartruth/message/8356
    Message 1 of 6 , Feb 16 8:21 AM
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      The message 8356 did come up when I searched for it.

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eckankartruth/message/8356

      --- In eckankartruth@yahoogroups.com, "etznab18" <etznab@...> wrote:
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      > Here is a link to one from October 1980 (It's on the first page near the bottom.)
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      > http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=L7vk9XBBNxgC&dat=19801001&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
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      > There was another post by DavidP111 that read (in part):
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      > There were several copies of the Tiger's Fang with Kirpal Singh as the master at the time that were written in the 1950s. Where are they? Who Knows. Ed Pecean (sp?) had one I know. Is it true that Orion magazine published TF prior to 1965 with Sudar/Kirpal Singh as the master? I've heard this but never seen a copy.
      > When Kirpal came to the USA in the early 70s long time Eckists told me that was Tarzs. I did go to meet Kirpal and got the darshan from him. In my early Eck years it was an item of discussion many times as to the name Kirpal or Sudar or Rebazar and why the change for the same person.
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      > (I think that was message 8356, but my computer says it can't be retrieved. I'll have to check what is up with this.)
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      > Also, from a Feb. 2000 post there was this:
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      > "From the manuscrips that were obtained from the Twitchell family, Mattie and John, included a vintage copy of Tiger's Fang with Kirpal being the master, not Rebazar. Last time I saw that manuscrip Ed Peacin (spelling?) had it. This was also brought up in the court case of Eckankar vs estate of Helen Frye in Prescott, Az in 1980."
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      > http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/eckankarsurvivors/tuzahu.html
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      > I would like to know if DavidP111 can offer any more detail about this copy of The Tiger's Fang "brought up in the court case". The reason is that nobody I know of has seen the older versions, or original manuscript of TTF with Kirpal Singh's name in it. Even Doug Marman said he hadn't seen TTF manuscript, as if nobody knew what it said (that was my impression). Of course, I also saw a place where Doug said he DID see TTF manuscript (I assumed it was a typo and he meant Dialogues With the Master).
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      > --- In eckankartruth@yahoogroups.com, "etznab18" <etznab@> wrote:
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      > > Found a newspaper link about the court case.
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      > > http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=886&dat=19800924&id=ZpdOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=r0wDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1972,4729563
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      > > ***
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      > > The 2nd part of article is hard to get to. At top, select page 4 and then use right arrow on your keyboard to scroll from page 4 over to adjacent page and then down arrow to reach bottom left corner.
      > >
      > > For some reason, selecting page five of that link goes to page 8A of the paper. One has to select page 4 and use keyboard arrows to scroll over to what is page 7A of the paper.
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      > > ***
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      > > I wasn't yet able to find the other articles about this ... like the ones alluded to on p. 7A. If anybody knows where more about this can be found please post.
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      > > --- In eckankartruth@yahoogroups.com, "etznab18" <etznab@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > "From the manuscrips that were obtained from the Twitchell family, Mattie and John, included a vintage copy of Tiger's Fang with Kirpal being the master, not Rebazar. Last time I saw that manuscrip Ed Peacin (spelling?) had it. This was also brought up in the court case of Eckankar vs estate of Helen Frye in Prescott, Az in 1980."
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      > > > http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/eckankarsurvivors/tuzahu.html
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      > > > DavidP111,
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      > > > Can you elaborate on this? Or, do you know how I can locate the records for that court case to confirm?
      > > >
      > > > Is this saying there was no mention of Rebazar Tarzs in The Tiger's Fang manuscript and that there is a court case record to prove it?
      > > >
      > > > If this is actually the case then it suggests to me that Eckankar Inc. knows this information as well. I'm wanting to confirm. So I need more substantial evidence.
      > > >
      > > > Btw, I wasn't trying to be overly critical of you about the P.T. books and tapes still available. Just wanted to illustrate things more accurately.
      > > >
      > > > Yes, it is true that a number of Paul's books are no longer in print and that Harold's are emphasized more. Also that a lot of Paul's own writings have been edited and revised from the originals. The latter is something I'm particularly interested in. Especially the Tiger's Fang.
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