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Re: [eckankartruth] Re: Patti Simpson Rivinus died at age 77

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  • etznab@aol.com
    Perhaps it will be mentioned in the Spiritual Wisdom Journal for May 2011. http://spiritualwisdomjournal.org/ Oh. Wait a minute. These are quarterly
    Message 1 of 50 , May 15, 2011
      Perhaps it will be mentioned in the Spiritual Wisdom Journal for May


      Oh. Wait a minute. These are quarterly publications, so the next one
      could be months away.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...>
      To: eckankartruth <eckankartruth@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 6:03 pm
      Subject: [eckankartruth] Re: Patti Simpson Rivinus died at age 77

      Hello All,
      Yes. Patti Simpson Rivinus died on May 4, 2011.
      I wonder how many Eckists know, or if Klemp
      will mention her since he still hasn't mentioned
      Darwin Gross' (972nd LEM/Mahanta) death in
      March, 2008.

      I wonder if Patti was still an ECKist and entitled
      to the "protection" and "guidance" of the Mahanta?



      Leanne Thompson wrote:

      A friend told me about that.
    • butterflyschmidt@yahoo.de
      Thank you very much Sharon for this post and Colleen s article. It is very good. I have not read it all yet. But when I read about Karin in the play of
      Message 50 of 50 , May 13, 2011
        Thank you very much Sharon for this post and Colleen's article.
        It is very good. I have not read it all yet.
        But when I read about "Karin" in the play of Ingmar Bergman, a role Colleen played, I heard a tone in my right ear. Not the Eck(! haha).
        No, Karin is one of my first names. So it represents part of me so to speak, it is never heard because people call me by my first first name.
        This tone in my ear is something I hear when I remember shock experiences. Yes, it is meaningful to read Colleen's article. It is about feelings. Something Eckankar leaves out in their teaching, they call it unimportant.
        Thank you lovely Sharon for spreading Colleens article.
        I will read the rest later.
        Love and hugs from
        "Schmidt" ( my real name is
        Take the first letters and you may remember this terrible person from 10 years ago.

        But I would, for the time being, prefer to call myself "Schmidt".

        Thank you for continuing this phantastic group Sharon.

        --- In eckankartruth@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon" <brighttigress@...> wrote:
        > Congratulations to our own Colleen Russell on being published in the journal of the International Cultic Studies Association!!
        > You can read her article, "Touched: Disconfirming Pathogenic Beliefs of Thought Reform Through the Process of Acting", on her website:
        > http://www.colleenrussellmft.com/1447/2995.html
        > Don't let the "professional" title and big words scare you like it did me at first - it's an excellent article, and Colleen shares a lot about her experiences joining ekult, getting out, and healing. There's a lot of helpful sharing there, that I'm sure we can all use in our own process of recovery.
        > When I left ekult back in '98, I never in a million years thought that years later, I'd still be affected by my cult experience, and might be for the rest of my life. Colleen's article gave me some good food for thought on some areas, and pointers on maybe how to go about getting a whole lot better than I am right now!
        > And for any "newbies" who maybe haven't checked out the "links" here, there's a lot of excellent information on cults & recovery at the International Cultic Studies Association website: http://www.icsahome.com
        > More than one person has written to me, objecting to ICSA's requiring paid membership to access everything there, but in case anyone else feels that way, I'd like to say that there's "tons" of free info there, and personally I have absolutely *no* problem with their paid memberships - they are, after all, a professional organization and need an income to do all the good work they do in educating professionals & others about cult recovery. I've heard from a lot of people who sought professional help in recovery, but it's not an area of expertise for many therapists. It's good to help individual cult members, but it's even better to enable professionals to help *many* cult members. I had a freebie trial membership there for awhile, awhile back - the amount of "paid for" information was totally overwhelming, and a lot of it was just plain way over my head.
        > So, when I got Colleen's announcement this morning I was still on my first cup of coffee, and the title alone made me think perhaps I should wake up first. But, I'm trying to be better about keeping order in my inbox - what a mess - and I'd sworn that starting today, I was just going to start at the top and work my way down, otherwise I end up with not even reading things I'd like to until a month later, or never. As of right now, I've got over 2,400 unread emails - of course, that goes back a lot of years & a lot of it probably old "spam", but still....
        > Anyway, I'm glad I decided to read the article right away, and while for awhile at first, I had to do some hard thinking and "translating" in my head - at one point I found myself thinking "This ain't bathroom reading material". But I very quickly got "into" it, and found myself feeling sorry and a bit disappointed when I reached the end. I wanted more. I plan to get back to it again, and print out a copy next time I'm at my daughter's - I ran out of ink maybe 5 years ago and haven't gotten around to getting more. <gg> Unfortunately, there's no such thing as cyber post-it tabs.
        > Colleen's article is great reading for both the "average" person and the professional. And I hope that in the future, we'll see more articles by Colleen - and hopefully, a book!!
        > BTW, Colleen - if you write anything else, always feel free to post it here, and even put a copy in the "files" section here, whether it gets published or not. And although it's a bit of a loss that you're not very active here on the internet anymore - newbies, Colleen did some good battling over at a.r.e. back in "the day", and had a Yahoo "help" group for awhile - in the long run & bigger picture, you're doing important work that will ultimately benefit a lot more people. There's been so much excellent writing by many former eckists over the years that's basically lost, and will never be seen by anyone. Around the time I left ekult, I actually went back to Day One at alt.religion.eckankar and read every post! I don't think it would be humanly possibly now, so many years later.
        > And while I think of it, for anyone doing research, something I'd forgotten...for those who are interested in ekult's Shabd Yoga origins & how Twitch corrupted them, there's an excellent article by a former eckist, "Undoing the Damage of Rogue Light & Sound Gurus --Deviations from The Path" at: http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/eckankarsurvivors/rogue1.html
        > Okay, gotta go - thank you again, Colleen! Now...go get started on a book!!
        > Hugs,
        > Sharon
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