Re: Why Isn't Klemp Talking About the Zohar?
- Eckankar couldn't be much more backward. Nothing about it is original, so why start now?
--- In email@example.com, "prometheus_973" <prometheus_973@...> wrote:
> I was wondering what the purpose
> is in having a "Living" ECK Master?
> Klemp still promotes, and sells, Twitchell's
> "Stranger by the River" but where is
> Klemp's "current" version of this book,
> or his own unique work? Where's Rebazar?
> And, why are ECKists being encouraged
> to purchase Twitchell's old talks (EK
> history) now in CD format?
> It's another money maker, of course,
> but it takes the ECKist backwards into
> the past and into a state of lower consciousness.
> Then again, these talks do show the
> scam behind Eckankar. After all, according
> to Klemp, Twitchell had been under
> Rebazar's tutorage for years and according
> to PT was given the 12th initiation in
> the 1950s. So it does seem odd that
> Twit never mentions the "Mahanta," and
> other important points, in his 1966 talk:
> "The Way of ECKANKAR."
> Therefore, if Twitchell's works are
> being pushed upon ECKists, what is
> the point with having a "Living" Master?
> Has the "Living" master (Klemp) written
> any Shariyats or anything as worthy
> or as comparable to the books of Twitchell?
> Klemp claims to be a/the infallible Mahanta,
> but as the LEM he is supposed to give a
> "current" view of the world to his followers
> and guide them through tough times.
> Instead, this so-called "Modern Prophet"
> hides away most of the year and talks or
> writes about traveling to the Astral "Sun
> Worlds" with Rebazar and about going into
> the past to Atlantis, etc. in order to renew
> Soul's "golden contract" with the M/LEM.
> Klemp mimics others with generalized doom
> and gloom comments (and EMF fears) while
> avoiding precise predictions... except for one:
> "Eckankar is meant to be here not just for
> decades, but for centuries-- even for millennia."
> But, didn't PT and DG say the same things?
> An EK prediction, The Invasion of the Zohar!
> HK seems to agree with Twitchell that an alien
> space race (The ZOHAR) is to come and take
> over the earth! This is mentioned on pg. 243
> of Klemp's first (1998) Lexicon.
> On pages 186-187 Klemp mentions that
> this invasion and "colonization" will occur
> after a "catastrophe" in the "Twenty-First
> and Twenty-Second Centuries." Also, the
> ECK Master, SEPHER, will be responsible for
> "the spiritual welfare of the Zohar" (those
> space aliens who murder/destroy the human
> Too bad that good old Sepher didn't have
> more influence over the Zohar prior to the
> invasion! LOL! But how "spiritual" are those
> who invade and annihilate another race?
> Isn't this what a less spiritual and violent
> (lower consciousness) race would do?
> So, what are Klemp's views/predictions on
> this EK theology? This is the 21th Century
> and, according to HK, time is running out!
> Tick-tock, tick-tock!
> Klemp should be addressing the future and
> not the past simply because by the time he
> gets it into print it's even further into the past.
> Events and circumstances change in every
> moment. Instead, HK (EK's Modern Prophet)
> should be addressing future events.That way,
> by the time it got into print it would be the
> present or near future! The past is too easy
> and too convenient to comment upon and
> too easy to do 20/20 hindsight rewrites.
> But, that's what Klemp does. He takes the
> Easy Way in order to appear to earn his
> But, since Klemp is promoting himself as
> a "Modern Prophet" he should be attempting
> to live up to the his own hype. ECKists should
> hold him accountable to address current
> world issues, as well as, these doom and
> gloom EK predictions. Instead, we see him
> attempting to sell more and more EK materials
> which contain nothing new. It's merely
> repackaged and/or put into a current CD/
> DVD/MP3 format. The President and EK
> Board could make those decisions without
> Then, again, the Catch-22 for ECKists is
> that they aren't permitted to complain (it's
> negative), nor to "second guess" the LEM
> (who is also the Mahanta). ECKists are to
> follow and practice the "Law of Silence."
> But, are ECKists always expected to practice
> this EK Law without exception? If someone
> wrongs you or makes a mistake then shouldn't
> you speak up? Sure! Therefore, it's okay
> that they don't remain silent on matters
> of theology either. Soul equals Soul correct?
> Thus, why should Klemp be above responsibility?
> Darwin was kicked to the curb for misrepresentation,
> but Klemp and his lawyers rewrote the EK bylaws.
> Now, the President and EK Board have no authority
> to hold Klemp accountable. Catch-22 again!