Re: My story...ECK Stories Needed... Desperately!
- No. They would harass your mother with phone calls and threaten to call your work if you didn't post "responsibly".
--- In email@example.com, harrisonferrel <no_reply@...> wrote:
> I'll give them an Eck story. A short one to boot. I joined a cult, I wasted twelve years. I believed that made-up characters were really in my dreams and then I discovered Sharon and David Lane on the internet and came back to my senses.
> Do you think they'd print my story??
- I'm an ex Eckist. I have been looking for other ex Eckist groups. We all know what a terrible let down it is to find out the truth about Eckankar. I still now some people who know the truth but still stay in it. Anyway, has anyone ever considered a class action suit against Eckankar by ex Eckist? If so I would be interested in knowing details.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "prometheus_973" <prometheus_973@...> wrote:
> This is a crosspost from ESA---
> The following "Announcement" is displayed
> in Eckankar's December 2009 H.I. Letter:
> "Spotlight on High Initiates
> You are invited to share your experience
> as an ECK H.I. with your fellow Brothers
> of the Leaf. Please send any of the following:
> * Your personal experiences and insights
> relating to the Mahanta, the ECK teachings,
> and serving as an ECK H.I. [the Negative
> * Photos of H.I.'s in ECK activities, especially
> in action, sharing and enjoying ECK.
> ["in action" means no poses with fake
> * Poems that express your love for the
> SUGMAD and the Mahanta, and being
> a Co-worker in ECK. [When will HK
> "share" his poems?]
> Send submissions to: Eckankar, Att: The
> H.I. Letter, PO Box 2000, Chanhassen, MN
> 55317-2000 USA. Or e-mail them to
> hil@... (Submissions may be
> edited for clarity and length.) Thanks for
> That last disclaimer of "submissions may
> be edited for clarity" is interesting since
> H.I.s should already have mastered the
> 4th Mental Plane and, thus, have "clarity"
> of mind. LOL!
> Next, is an example of the kind
> of delusional, ECKie B.S., story
> that Klemp is looking for:
> "Of Science and The Shariyat
> I read an article in Scientific American
> (May 2008) reporting that an individual's
> genetic code may continuously change
> after birth due to various environmental
> influences. This got me thinking. This
> discovery may open the door of science
> to finding real biological transformations
> and HEALING EFFECTS of LONG-TERM
> PRACTICING OF SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES.
> To me, this all seems to correspond
> to the 'rechemicalization' process mentioned
> in The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book 1, p. 143.
> So let's hear it for the Spiritual Excercises
> of ECK. Hip-hip, hooray!" - Phil Dunn, FL.
> [My CAPS were added to the above
> Yes! Look at how the "Healing Effects
> of Long-Term Practicing of Spiritual
> Disciplines/Exercises" have helped
> Klemp! When does the "Benjamin
> Button" effect kick-in? LOL!
> Below is the old (1970) PT Shariyat
> quote that inspired this H.I.'s delayed
> and delusional revelation concerning
> Science [that one's genetic code may
> be continuously changing] and the
> ability to use this for healing via the
> Spiritual Exercises. It has long been
> known that too much stress can have
> negative effects and that meditation
> can alleviate stress. However, this H.I.
> concludes that these changes in one's
> genetic code could be affected, for healing
> purposes, by using the "spiritual exercises."
> He supports his conclusions by making
> a correlation with this article of scientific
> discovery and with Twitchell's karmic
> "rechemicalization" theory. However, this
> H.I. misinterprets Paul's PR warning/threat
> that unless one follows the Living ECK Master
> (LEM) they will build up an unbalanced
> amount of "bad" karma.
> Paul, basically, states that one Should
> Not be Obsessed with seeking Good
> Health effects because this is Karmic
> Attachment to the Physical Body. ECK
> is the "Middle Path" (neither for or against)
> and, thus, Detachment (from Lower
> Plane effects) should be practiced in
> order to reach "the gates of heaven."
> Thus, one's Attention Should Not be
> on the good or bad (health and/or healing),
> nor on the positive and negative effects
> of the physical body or physical world.
> "Burning off of karma is the state of
> rechemicalization. It is something man
> must go through while living on this earth.
> Man should be able to do this under the
> Living ECK Master. If he is under any other
> guide here on earth, this is NOT likely to
> happen. He will be receiving more bad
> karma than good and will be overbalanced
> on the negative side. He needs to be
> balanced only in the middle way, not
> on either side. Only when he can walk
> the middle path of ECK can he leave
> the Wheel of the Eighty-Four and find
> the gates of heaven."
> What's really interesting is that in
> Klemp's front page article he uses
> a lot of "BUTS" when giving advice
> on healthy eating. Nowhere did
> Klemp mention doing the "Spiritual
> Exercises of ECK" for healing or for
> Plus, isn't it interesting that Klemp
> didn't notice this H.I.'s misinterpretation
> (or his own) of Twitchell's karmic
> "rechemicalization... Middle Path
> of ECK" comments from the Shariyat.
> When one looks at Klemp's selling
> of Eckankar it seems imbalanced.
> It's no wonder HK and Company
> can't see the forest due to the trees!