--- In eckankartruth@y..., "al_radzik" <al_radzik@y...> wrote:
> Windy/Carly/Rita Crorkin of Alabama writes:
> Windy writes:
> "People see what they want to see and disregard the rest.
> Alf reminds:
> Paul Simon - "Still a man hears what he wants to hear, and
> the rest". PLAGIARISM!
I'll betcha she used to spend a lot of time at your old website,
Hey...this summer I am *definitely* taking a friend up to that
mountaintop I told you about, that looked like one in one of your
website pictures...except we're going to wimp out & take the four-
wheel drive! <ggg>
> Windy continues:
> It is a sad way to live, but that is just a fact of life. If you
> for crap you'll find crap. In the same area, if you look for love,
> you'll find it. Perhaps that is why many divorced people will find
> others who will be "just right " for them.
AHA!!!! Is Windy revealing something here? How long since Baab
had that "accident"? Can't blame Windy for lying about that,
actually...gee, I hope *this* guy doesn't like sheep, though!!! Is
that why she's using the name "Carlton" now, and isn't spending as
much time being a bitch at a.r.e.?
She's sort of right here, though. I looked for truth and honesty.
Even though I was in e-kult for almost 15 years, I *did* eventually
find it, when I went to a.r.e., got woke up, and left the cult.
> Alf write:
> A truly inspiring insight from a woman who is divorced from her
> husband Robert and pretends that he was killed in a car accident.
C'mon, Alf! Be nice!!! I mean, maybe she was always a nasty bitch
at a.r.e., but she *does* have another side to her. And she *did*
genuinely love Baab.
> She found crap, got it, got more crap and got rid of that. Now
she's looking for love again. Chin up old girl. Maybe if you dropped
the Eck bullshit, you will get a real man who doesn't have to put up
with your cult membership.
OHMIGOD!!! Hey!!!! I just had a thought!!!!! Now, I don't know if
she's already found someone else, but Steve Runfeldt is
available!!!! His marriage fell apart, too!!!! He's pretty
nasty...as Zschela, I'd say he rated the 8th Initiation!!! They can
be the Jim & Tammy of ECKANKAR!!!!! With the "consciousness" of
that bitchy Helmsley woman!!! What did they call her, Queen of
Mean?? Anyway...poor Windy was always a sort of mediocre bitch, and
didn't even get the attention she craved being nasty at a.r.e.,
especially after Grundie came along...but I think most of her problem
was low self-esteem, probably since being rejected by the convent
when she was young, before getting knocked up & having to marry that
abusive alkie...but you know, perhaps she's not that good at winning
the a.r.e. bitch award because her heart isn't *totally* in it.
Like...maybe she still *has* some heart.
In fact, if I recall, it was Steve R. who sort of gave her back
her "faith" when she had some shaky moments when her brother died.
That surprised me, actually. That an eckist who
supposedly "believed" could get so shaken up about death, especially
since she has the same congenital heart condition. I was still an
eckist, you know. And it just looked to me like the cult had failed
her in her time of need, and had never giving her that "knowing"
about the meaninglessness of death which I'd learned as a child from
the Bible (rejoice at death, mourn at birth, I forget the scripture)
and from life itself, seeing an old woman die...
Well...my mind is wandering here. I am getting *damn* bored with
pneumonia, I'll tell ya!! But...I'm getting better. I can *almost*
inhale my ciggies again!!! <ggg>
> Windy writes:
> Don't give up on life because you make the wrong choices. Keep
> looking, but look forward and learn from your mistakes, don't
> in them and make a group therapy hold you back.
How sweet!! Maybe Windy *did* meet someone!!!
OHMIGOD!!!! Alf, can you just picture this? A real ECK WEDDING,
Windy and Steve R., ... whoops, you know, Steve "knew" his last wife
was "the one" because she was wearing an ECK NECKLACE.
Oh, heck...go for it, Steve & Windy!!!!!!
And NATHAN can perform the ceremony!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!
What a hoot!!!
Hey Alf!!!! Do you think there's any chance they'll ask you & me to
be Best Man & Best Woman? <ggg> I mean...we can promise to
*behave*!!!! I can read HOLY ECKQUOTES!!!!!! I won't even have
to *read* them!!!! I have them memorized!!!!
What quote would be suitable? Klemp's "turkey" quote, maybe?
> Alf writes:
> I still don't hear how Eckankar has helped this gasbag. She's
> about therapy and wallowing in mistakes.
Well, look at the good side. Like me, she's too old to have anymore
kids so she & Steve won't be infecting them with ECKANAIDS.
No, the cult has *not* helped her, and that's sad.
>Doesn't Eckankar help you
> burn off karma and get your life together somehow?
No, it just tries to make you think that shitty things are really
*good* things, and that you *deserve* to be conned and treated like
But it's true, *some* eckists are blessed and get to work off car
accident karma in the dream state. Others just have wrecks.
>Sounds like Carly is the same old girl she used to be when she was
>good little Catholic girl.
Yeah, a little Catholic girl who loved the peace & sense of God in a
quiet church, alone. She wanted to be a nun, Alf. And they told her
to go forth and multiply, which she did. They threw her to a wolf
who knocked her up & then she "had" to marry the bum. Can't blame
her for being a bit bitter. And you surely know that the Church
doesn't necessarily really emphasize the really incredibly beautiful
mystical aspects of Catholicism, but of course that may be because
people are a tad bit lazy. But all that Spirit and love and beauty
she loved in Catholicism are what "resonated" and got her sucked into
a deceptive cult.
> Windy spaketh:
> Recovery is just a healing.
> Alf scratches his head and replies:
> No shit! Duh.....you have a flair for the obvious Windessa!
I wonder if Steve likes sheep?
> Windy baahhs:
> Time heals all wounds whether real or imagined. Bigotry and blame
> are not the way to go. Forgive yourself for seeing things the way
> do and ask yourself why you made the choices you did. If helping
> others means imposing your views on them, then you are smothering
> them. The help groups can become a noose or a lead weight. People
> need to move forward and not backward.
Hey, Alf...look, I think maybe Windy is doing some *thinking* here!!
Leave her alone, fer crissakes!!
> Alf writes:
> Sounds like Carly is thinking out loud about her own life. Gee, if
> your support group doesn't work out, you can always find another
It's nice to see her not reacting with her usual bitterness, Alf.
> Then again....Alabama is certainly not the hub of activity for self
> improvement. Maybe the Mahanta has some ideas! Haven't heard about
> Eckankar yet...
Listen, she wasn't very thrilled about moving to Alabama, either!!
C'mon, Alabama can't be *that* bad!!! I can't think of any details
on the state, though. Can't be much worse than anywhere else. I
mean...I know lots of ignorant rednecks from *many* states, and
actually, they have some good ideas!!! Like, I wish I'd have
thought of throwing a tarp in the bed of my old dead pickuptruck and
making a swimming pool out of it!! My idea of heaven is a little
cabin with a rocking chair on the porch, and a woodstove, and
chickens & other critters running around, and not having to wear
I betcha they've got an official Alabama cult website.
And...hey, who are *you* to talk??? You're from NJ, fer
> Windy regurgitates:
> Eckankar may not be for everyone, but it isn't the same thing to
> everyone either.
1) True, most people have the sense to recognize a crock when they
see one, but unfortunately they're usually too polite to say anything
to their deluded cult member friends.
2) True. For me, it was a very personal thing, but membership slowly
& subtly changed me from someone with a deep personal love &
relationship with Spirit to a budding pseudo-spiritual cultpuppy
eckanmissionary cult recruiter!!!!!!!!! This was the big "message"
of the "teachings" -- recruit, recruit, recruit!!!!!
> Alf writes:
> THERE IT IS!! One little mention of the path. Hardly comforting in
> this time of pain and indecision eh Windy? I'm not trying to be
> but seriously, isn't this where the Mahanta and the ECK and the LEM
> supposed to get you to a good place where you can be whole again?
> Sounds like it ain't working.
Maybe she discovered BEER!!!!!
> Windy concludes:
> Because some people choose to discect every bit of their past does
> not mean there are not other people living in the present..
> To summarize, "Don't call my path of choice "wrong" just because
> chose to leave. Everything you find negative is not necessarily a
> reality. You could be wrong. "OH HORRORS!"
This doesn't make sense, but that's Windy! No, the plagiarism is
definitely a reality. So is all the other eckancrap.
> Alf ends:
> And you could be wrong too. Be careful when you wear your heart on
> sleeve at a.r.e. Someone is bound to expose you and assassinate
Speaking of assassination, well...I am *still* laughing thinking of a
recent "Cakkavatti" post over at the cesspool!! I think I "saved"
it, but there are a few hundred posts piled up there...anyway, it was
absolutely ***brilliant***!!!! God, he was *so* deliciously wicked
& the even more *funny* thing is, that poor simple Garland Peck took
The thing is, Alf, well....you know there have been times when I
thought "lala" was really *you* being sneaky and not even telling
*me* it was really you, which is *rotten* of you after a certain
point, okay maybe it's revenge because you *never* spotted the two
pseudo's I used as a joke in 12/99 (roughly) ... and I've even gotten
annoyed at the way Lala would repost your stuff without making it
clear it was reposts, etc. Some of his stuff has been *really*
good...but I'll tell ya, Alf, this most recent post of his,
well...hey, I *never* promised you I'd be faithful or anything!!!!!
There were a few others times when I thought damn, it was too close
to call, but this was, well...no question. He beat you, Alf. You
are no longer The Master. He was just *too* absolutely & incredibly
deliciously ***nasty*** beyond words....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please...don't cry!! Even though you are no longer The Master, you
are still *my* Master!! And although there is one Higher than you,
well...my worship will only go so far. I am still exclusively *your*
Humble Serving Wench, and since it's not that easy getting up & down
off my knees at my age, I will do that *only* for you! <ggg>
Gettin' off track again...hey, by the way, you posted something
asking where I was? Haven't seen much interesting here lately, I've
been busy elsewhere, and I *especially* get tired of seeing boring
unpleasant things here, like *any* mention of Grundie!!!!!!!!
Well...gotta go!! Maybe I'll go terrorize a.r.e. for awhile...
Love & Hugs!
PS...does anyone have any good recipes using Sun-dried Tomatoes?
Don't laugh, but when I first got on the internet in 1996, that's
what I was mostly interested in. But then, I did a search
on "eckankar" ....