6306Re: Happy New Year
- Jan 1 11:54 AMAbsolutely, Liz, one can have experiences just as before.
One or two questions: Have you ever had an experience in a
dream that turned out to by, well, just a dream, or do you still
believe every dream is absolutely real, without discerning or
questioning the content? And were your dreams that you may
have had with Klemp still considered real to you, or do you now
question the basis of those dreams?
As to the color blue that you see in your spiritual eye: Do you still
believe that color is higher than say, other colors? In other
words, why blue?
Have you found that the content of your "experiences" have
changed much since you left eckankar?
I other words, has the spiritual landscape that is so commonly
shared by eckists in their experiences changed for you?
Do you still think you're a "high initiate"?
And have you come to any conclusions about all the experiences
eckists have that confirm eckankar's validity to them?
And how do YOU discern which experiences are real, and which
aren't, or do you just "know" with such certainty that you have no
issues with this?
And if you still "know," what do you think about that "knowing" or
that "certainty" you had before that told you eckankar was real to
you (assuming it was)?
--- In email@example.com, "ewickings"
> Hello KS and all,
> Yep I went and rejoined ET. ;-) I un subbed several months
> Sharon was shutting her down. Ahhhh sorry Sharon if youhave to re approve
> me. :-) Happy Healthy New Year to everyone!eckankar.
> Now I wanted to mention something about my history pre
>years.... The thing
> KS, sure you may have had experiences when in eck for 4
> is, you can still have those awesome dreams andexperiences. I am
> comfortable in also saying, you will have more of theseexperiences now
> that you are OUT of eckankar! Yep, you only needed the tools,it is your
> own higher self that will guide you! To this day I still havewaking dreams
> awesome inner dream experiences that actually come true onthe outer. And
> that blue color seen in the spiritual eye, it's still there! I was anaid.... When
> eckists for 30 years, a 6th, an initiator and an eck spiritual
> I left 3 1/2 years ago, supposedly I was going to lose all thosewonderful
> gifts! NOPE! In fact they have actually gotten better.an experience I
> I posted a story over on ESA a couple weeks ago concerning
> had with my husband. :-) Mish re posted my story here on ET.:-) Anyway
> I just want you to know, No one can take those experiencesaway from you
> that you have discovered on your own!route back to
> eckankar does not have any "special" secret, direct one way
> god! And you do not need someone else as your guide, guru /master or
> mythical mahanta. There are so many wonderful books andmovies out that can
> assist you in discovering more tools to help you. Have youchecked out this
> web site? http://www.whatisthesecret.tv/ I recently purchaseda couple
> of the books titled The Secret, gave them as gifts to family, andkept one
> for myself. Also I recommend to everyone that leaveseckankar, the book
> by Jed McKenna titled, "Spiritual Enlightenment TheDamndest Thing".
> Excellent book! If you can't afford the books maybe your locallibrary can
> help you?experiences as young
> Anyway, Pre eckankar, I was having OOB / soul travel
> as 5 years old. I have recall of picking my body and even myname before
> coming into this life. I knew about reincarnation before everhearing
> eckankar's spin.... All I needed was for someone to answermy questions
> about those experiences.work
> Hang in there KS, you will find peace within. It takes time to
> through life..... When I first left eckankar, I had a lot of crap tounload
> Not just physical material I collected over the 30 years, but theinner
> gunk I was programmed with for all of those years. Thinkabout this; I was
> 12 - 13 years old when I joined the teachings. It was my wholelife.... I
> was formed by this path. My whole way of thinking and livingwas controlled
> by it! I often wonder what I would have been like had I notbeen one of
> those eckies..... Though I will say I could have done worse!;-)
> Well I am going to have to get off this computer.... We are
> strange Thunderstorm! Dec 31st, 43* here in MI and nosnow! Just rain
> and thunder and lightening! Go figure......family, embrace and
> Wishing everyone a Happy, Healthy New Year. Enjoy your
> enjoy life.... There is so much out there waiting for you!for four
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Raymond Seymour
> Date: 12/31/2006 4:26:59 PM
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: [eckankartruth] Happy New Year
> As a new year approaches...
> I spent a lot of time looking at all the Eck literature I collected
> almost four years, I took a lot of notes, went to two WorldWides. I saw
> the temple in Minnesota. I really loved it then. I came to realizeI liked
> anything that got me further away from who I was. I just stillremain
> perplexed at how the whole thing unfolded and I experiencedthe things I did
> I really put my all into it. There were lots of months I didn'twant to
> ever be anything but a chela. Now I don't want to be anything. Ijust wish
> someone could explain to me how I had those awesomedreams and even an OOB a
> couple of times??? I spent time last night ending that chapterand putting
> things in place. I didn't really get rid of my things because it isall a
> part of who I am. I am looking forward to moving on and lettinggo.
> Wishing you all, Eckist and non-Eckist a great New Year!!
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