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  • jrswebhome
    Hello, would someone kindly direct me to a web site that is similar to an ebooks for dummies? I use, but am not an expert, in Calibre and Sigil, to edit
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      Hello, would someone kindly direct me to a web site that is similar to an ebooks for dummies?


      I use, but am not an expert, in Calibre and Sigil, to edit existing ebooks I download. I have basic beginner questions, like: Why did I have to convert an ebook to a Calibre ebook, in order to add my own ebook cover jpg? Also, is there a basic for dummies way to code existing ebooks I download. I don't understand the ugly way folk's style the ebooks. Why all the Capital letters? Lazy? How do I break a subhead into two lines, but not two subheads?

      Any help would be appreciated.  John R
    • josephHarris
      ... John, If you have some knowledge of html and css, this is not a problem that should hold you up long. You know that pdf is one form of ebook. But the most
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        Hello, would someone kindly direct me to a web site that is similar to an ebooks for dummies?


        I use, but am not an expert, in Calibre and Sigil, to edit existing ebooks I download. I have basic beginner questions, like: Why did I have to convert an ebook to a Calibre ebook, in order to add my own ebook cover jpg? Also, is there a basic for dummies way to code existing ebooks I download. I don't understand the ugly way folk's style the ebooks. Why all the Capital letters? Lazy? How do I break a subhead into two lines, but not two subheads?

        Any help would be appreciated. ����John R

        John,

        If you have some knowledge of html and css, this is not a problem that should hold you up long. You know that pdf is one form of ebook. But the most usual intended are the epub, mobi and ibook. The last is an App that I do not know about. But it may be tha same coding����as the mobi (for Kindle) and the epub (for most other things). Calibre is the program to turn a good epub into other formats.

        These two are effectively zip folders containing other folders and content, as well as a small signpost file. I've seen the whole described as a website. If you open an epub in Sigil you will see on the left column most of the folders and contained files [I would not use Calibre to make the epub, or to add pages]. and in Sigil you can see the content text or cover or pictures, or add them, or correct them. And you can see both the presentation, and the html and the css.

        If you unzip in something like 7-zip you will see the folders and files. Explore those to see what they are made of and how put together. Experiment in Sigil with a shortish and simple book; you will soon get the hang of how it works, and what gives the����kind of result you want.

        The rest is really doing it. Others might chime in with specific advice. But I do advise first taking one apart a putting it back together. There are plenty of free epubs to download and look at. Or make a copy of something that permits that; then if it goes wrog just delelte and make another ocpy to test your skills with :-) .

        On the Kindle publisher pages there is advice, and an excellent pdf to download [free] on Smashwords. There����is endless other stuff to be found with a search. But have a good look at one first to see its make up.

        HTH

        Joseph Harris [By the way there is no such thing as a Calibre ebook.]
      • jrswebhome
        Have I joined the wrong list? ... Hello, would someone kindly direct me to a web site that is similar to an ebooks for dummies? I use, but am not an expert, in
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          Have I joined the wrong list? 



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          Hello, would someone kindly direct me to a web site that is similar to an ebooks for dummies?

          I use, but am not an expert, in Calibre and Sigil, to edit existing ebooks I download. I have basic beginner questions, like: Why did I have to convert an ebook to a Calibre ebook, in order to add my own ebook cover jpg? Also, is there a basic for dummies way to code existing ebooks I download. I don't understand the ugly way folk's style the ebooks. Why all the Capital letters? Lazy? How do I break a subhead into two lines, but not two subheads?

          Any help would be appreciated.  John R
        • jrswebhome
          If I look in the coding of an ebook converted to a Calibre ebook, I see Calibre named headings, etc. Are you sure it is not a Calibre ebook after the
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            If I look in the coding of an ebook converted to a Calibre ebook, I see "Calibre" named headings, etc. Are you sure it is not a Calibre ebook after the conversion? Why would all the headings change names if it is not a conversion?


            To understand further, patience please:

            1. Calibre is only used to convert between different ebook formats?

            2. The coding within ebooks is html and css?

            3. What is the difference in html and css?


            Just trying to understand how to change the insides from such ugly designs. 



            ---In ebook-community@yahoogroups.com, <ebook-community@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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            Hello, would someone kindly direct me to a web site that is similar to an ebooks for dummies?


            I use, but am not an expert, in Calibre and Sigil, to edit existing ebooks I download. I have basic beginner questions, like: Why did I have to convert an ebook to a Calibre ebook, in order to add my own ebook cover jpg? Also, is there a basic for dummies way to code existing ebooks I download. I don't understand the ugly way folk's style the ebooks. Why all the Capital letters? Lazy? How do I break a subhead into two lines, but not two subheads?

            Any help would be appreciated. ����John R

            John,

            If you have some knowledge of html and css, this is not a problem that should hold you up long. You know that pdf is one form of ebook. But the most usual intended are the epub, mobi and ibook. The last is an App that I do not know about. But it may be tha same coding����as the mobi (for Kindle) and the epub (for most other things). Calibre is the program to turn a good epub into other formats.

            These two are effectively zip folders containing other folders and content, as well as a small signpost file. I've seen the whole described as a website. If you open an epub in Sigil you will see on the left column most of the folders and contained files [I would not use Calibre to make the epub, or to add pages]. and in Sigil you can see the content text or cover or pictures, or add them, or correct them. And you can see both the presentation, and the html and the css.

            If you unzip in something like 7-zip you will see the folders and files. Explore those to see what they are made of and how put together. Experiment in Sigil with a shortish and simple book; you will soon get the hang of how it works, and what gives the����kind of result you want.

            The rest is really doing it. Others might chime in with specific advice. But I do advise first taking one apart a putting it back together. There are plenty of free epubs to download and look at. Or make a copy of something that permits that; then if it goes wrog just delelte and make another ocpy to test your skills with :-) .

            On the Kindle publisher pages there is advice, and an excellent pdf to download [free] on Smashwords. There����is endless other stuff to be found with a search. But have a good look at one first to see its make up.

            HTH

            Joseph Harris [By the way there is no such thing as a Calibre ebook.]
          • josephHarris
            ... John, If you leave the css to Calibre [or Sigil or other converters] it will use its own progam name; but there is no such thing as a calibre ebook - it
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              On 04/11/2013 16:59, jrswebhome@... wrote:
              ����

              If I look in the coding of an ebook converted to a Calibre ebook, I see "Calibre" named headings, etc. Are you sure it is not a Calibre ebook after the conversion? Why would all the headings change names if it is not a conversion?

              To understand further, patience please:

              1. Calibre is only used to convert between different ebook formats?

              2. The coding within ebooks is html and css?

              3. What is the difference in html and css?

              Just trying to understand how to change the insides from such ugly designs.


              John,

              If you leave the css to Calibre [or Sigil or other converters] it will use its own progam name; but there is no such thing as a calibre ebook - it converts between formats - there is���� drop down list showing how many formats���� there are.
              2... yes, html and css are the major coding needs for users, and the core of making ebooks.
              3... html is the code,while css is the shaping of that code. e.g The Book might be <heading1> in html, and the size and colour and case [capitals, lower case or usually mixed] in css.

              I recommend Mark Coker's guide [free] on Smashwords to explain the process as your first step to understanding. Changing appearance should be done in Sigil. Later you might develop more skill [depending on how much of this you do] and use more specialised programs. Generally ebooks should be designed simply. You may not be able to achieve what you want. Coker's book will show something of how to do it and what those limitations are.

              Joseph Harris

            • NorthRidgeBooks@...
              Has anyone here used Convert-A-Book in Provo, Utah to create e-books? If so, would you recommend them? William A. Gordon Editor, 1,001 Tips for Writers
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                Has anyone  here used Convert-A-Book in Provo, Utah to create e-books? If so, would you recommend them?

                William A. Gordon
                Editor, "1,001 Tips for Writers"
                North Ridge Books
                www.nrbooks.com
                www.1001tipsforwriters.com
              • auwg
                ... At $200 per book for what they re calling a draft version, I doubt anyone in this group is using them. I certainly wouldn t; conversion software is far
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                  > Has anyone  here used Convert-A-Book in Provo, Utah to create e-books? If so, would you recommend them?


                  At $200 per book for what they're calling a 'draft' version, I doubt anyone in this group is using them.

                  I certainly wouldn't; conversion software is far too easy.

                  Ed
                  Ed Howdershelt - Abintra Press
                  Science Fiction & Semi-Fiction
                  http://www.AbintraPress.com



                  ---In ebook-community@yahoogroups.com, <ebook-community@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                  Has anyone  here used Convert-A-Book in Provo, Utah to create e-books? If so, would you recommend them?

                  William A. Gordon
                  Editor, "1,001 Tips for Writers"
                  North Ridge Books
                  www.nrbooks.com
                  www.1001tipsforwriters.com
                • jrswebhome
                  Thanks, Joseph. There are or were basic general questions I needed to understand before I begin applying things. You have helped clear the fog, thanks. ... On
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                    Thanks, Joseph. There are or were basic general questions I needed to understand before I begin applying things. You have helped clear the fog, thanks. 



                    ---In ebook-community@yahoogroups.com, <ebook-community@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                    On 04/11/2013 16:59, jrswebhome@... wrote:
                    ����

                    If I look in the coding of an ebook converted to a Calibre ebook, I see "Calibre" named headings, etc. Are you sure it is not a Calibre ebook after the conversion? Why would all the headings change names if it is not a conversion?

                    To understand further, patience please:

                    1. Calibre is only used to convert between different ebook formats?

                    2. The coding within ebooks is html and css?

                    3. What is the difference in html and css?

                    Just trying to understand how to change the insides from such ugly designs.


                    John,

                    If you leave the css to Calibre [or Sigil or other converters] it will use its own progam name; but there is no such thing as a calibre ebook - it converts between formats - there is���� drop down list showing how many formats���� there are.
                    2... yes, html and css are the major coding needs for users, and the core of making ebooks.
                    3... html is the code,while css is the shaping of that code. e.g The Book might be <heading1> in html, and the size and colour and case [capitals, lower case or usually mixed] in css.

                    I recommend Mark Coker's guide [free] on Smashwords to explain the process as your first step to understanding. Changing appearance should be done in Sigil. Later you might develop more skill [depending on how much of this you do] and use more specialised programs. Generally ebooks should be designed simply. You may not be able to achieve what you want. Coker's book will show something of how to do it and what those limitations are.

                    Joseph Harris

                  • jrswebhome
                    I have had a chance to review the Smashwords guide this afternoon. Does everyone use Word or Open Office to create ebooks? I had just never thought about how
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                      I have had a chance to review the Smashwords guide this afternoon.


                      Does everyone use Word or Open Office to create ebooks?


                      I had just never thought about how manuscripts are created.

                      I just thought I would flow the text into some HTML document and then insert styles and CSS. Guess that's a beginner's thought.


                      I do see Smashword's insistence upon stripping everything out, then going back into simplifying the format and styles. Also the insistence upon either a block paragraph style or paragraph indent, but not both.



                      ---In ebook-community@yahoogroups.com, <ebook-community@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                      On 04/11/2013 16:59, jrswebhome@... wrote:
                      ����

                      If I look in the coding of an ebook converted to a Calibre ebook, I see "Calibre" named headings, etc. Are you sure it is not a Calibre ebook after the conversion? Why would all the headings change names if it is not a conversion?

                      To understand further, patience please:

                      1. Calibre is only used to convert between different ebook formats?

                      2. The coding within ebooks is html and css?

                      3. What is the difference in html and css?

                      Just trying to understand how to change the insides from such ugly designs.


                      John,

                      If you leave the css to Calibre [or Sigil or other converters] it will use its own progam name; but there is no such thing as a calibre ebook - it converts between formats - there is���� drop down list showing how many formats���� there are.
                      2... yes, html and css are the major coding needs for users, and the core of making ebooks.
                      3... html is the code,while css is the shaping of that code. e.g The Book might be <heading1> in html, and the size and colour and case [capitals, lower case or usually mixed] in css.

                      I recommend Mark Coker's guide [free] on Smashwords to explain the process as your first step to understanding. Changing appearance should be done in Sigil. Later you might develop more skill [depending on how much of this you do] and use more specialised programs. Generally ebooks should be designed simply. You may not be able to achieve what you want. Coker's book will show something of how to do it and what those limitations are.

                      Joseph Harris

                    • Marny Parkin
                      I work for a publisher at BYU in Provo, and Convert-A-Book called us up to see if we would like to use their services. Since I do all the ebook conversion
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                        I work for a publisher at BYU in Provo, and Convert-A-Book called us up to see if we would like to use their services. Since I do all the ebook conversion myself and our needs are very simple, we weren't interested. But if you have an ebook that you want major bells and whistles for, they sound like they would do a good job. They have an impressive client list.

                        Marny Parkin
                        ParkinCat Book Design
                        http://typography.parkinfamily.org/


                        NorthRidgeBooks@... wrote:

                        > Has anyone here used Convert-A-Book in Provo, Utah to create e-books? If so, would you recommend them?
                      • Eggplant Literary Productions - Raechel H
                        I use Notepad ++ to create the XHTML, CSS and other files necessary for the ePub. I do some of the initial formatting in Word because my authors send me their
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                          I use Notepad ++ to create the XHTML, CSS and other files necessary for the ePub.  I do some of the initial formatting in Word because my authors send me their manuscripts in .RTF format and that is the program I have on hand.  I learned how to create the ePub and what the various files (content.opf, toc.ncx, etc.) from the book EPUB Straight to the Point (http://www.elizabethcastro.com/epub/).

                          I also rely heavily on the advice laid out in here: http://guidohenkel.com/2010/12/take-pride-in-your-ebook-formatting/ which you might find helpful.

                          Raechel


                          On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:16 PM, <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
                           

                          I have had a chance to review the Smashwords guide this afternoon.


                          Does everyone use Word or Open Office to create ebooks?


                          I had just never thought about how manuscripts are created.

                          I just thought I would flow the text into some HTML document and then insert styles and CSS. Guess that's a beginner's thought.


                          I do see Smashword's insistence upon stripping everything out, then going back into simplifying the format and styles. Also the insistence upon either a block paragraph style or paragraph indent, but not both.



                          ---In ebook-community@yahoogroups.com, <ebook-community@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                          On 04/11/2013 16:59, jrswebhome@... wrote:
                          ����

                          If I look in the coding of an ebook converted to a Calibre ebook, I see "Calibre" named headings, etc. Are you sure it is not a Calibre ebook after the conversion? Why would all the headings change names if it is not a conversion?

                          To understand further, patience please:

                          1. Calibre is only used to convert between different ebook formats?

                          2. The coding within ebooks is html and css?

                          3. What is the difference in html and css?

                          Just trying to understand how to change the insides from such ugly designs.


                          John,

                          If you leave the css to Calibre [or Sigil or other converters] it will use its own progam name; but there is no such thing as a calibre ebook - it converts between formats - there is���� drop down list showing how many formats���� there are.
                          2... yes, html and css are the major coding needs for users, and the core of making ebooks.
                          3... html is the code,while css is the shaping of that code. e.g The Book might be <heading1> in html, and the size and colour and case [capitals, lower case or usually mixed] in css.

                          I recommend Mark Coker's guide [free] on Smashwords to explain the process as your first step to understanding. Changing appearance should be done in Sigil. Later you might develop more skill [depending on how much of this you do] and use more specialised programs. Generally ebooks should be designed simply. You may not be able to achieve what you want. Coker's book will show something of how to do it and what those limitations are.

                          Joseph Harris




                          --
                          Raechel Henderson
                          Publisher / Editor
                          Eggplant Literary Productions
                          Website:  eggplantproductions.com
                          Email:  eggplant@...
                          Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Eggplant-Literary-Productions-Inc/275546535822149
                          Twitter:  @EggplantProduct
                        • josephHarris
                          ... No, no, no, no no ~ to coin a phrase :-) . Because Word is the WP pushed by the Biggest OS supplier (Microsoft) it is used by most people out of
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                            On 05/11/2013 02:16, jrswebhome@... wrote:
                            ��

                            I have had a chance to review the Smashwords guide this afternoon.


                            Does everyone use Word or Open Office to create ebooks?


                            No, no, no, no no ~ to coin a phrase :-) . Because Word is the WP pushed by the Biggest OS supplier (Microsoft) it is used by most people out of familiarity through work, or lack of knowledge of alternatives. Thus most instructions are addressed to it. But it does have a good level of user ease; the only WP that compares with that, that I know of, is WordPro, which no longer works on Windows.

                            But, since the final state for an ebook, apart from pdf, is html and css, to do it from there immediately saves a lot of extraneous coding that Word, in particular, is good at adding!


                            I had just never thought about how manuscripts are created.

                            I just thought I would flow the text into some HTML document and then insert styles and CSS. Guess that's a beginner's thought.


                            No, it is a coder's thought, and is far from beginner in that aspect. Few understand and can handle html and css beyond very simple needs. Which is why many conversion services options exist.


                            I do see Smashword's insistence upon stripping everything out, then going back into simplifying the format and styles. Also the insistence upon either a block paragraph style or paragraph indent, but not both.


                            Because there are so many device interpretations, the only safe coding is the very simplest [by adding anything you narrow your market], and Smashwords receives every possible variation of "coded manuscript" that publisher man can devise! Their system is automated, and thus sausage factory style. Therefore stripping out all the variations and putting their standard in makes a reliable, if unexciting, Smashwords standard; this is appealing to sellers [and publishers] since the product is reliable for customers.

                            Joseph Harris
                          • jrswebhome
                            reliable for customers if I ever want to sell anything, that s the number one goal. Thanks. ... On 05/11/2013 02:16, jrswebhome@... mailto:jrswebhome@...
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                               "reliable for customers" if I ever want to sell anything, that's the number one goal. Thanks.



                              ---In ebook-community@yahoogroups.com, <joe9438@...> wrote:

                              On 05/11/2013 02:16, jrswebhome@... wrote:
                              ��

                              I have had a chance to review the Smashwords guide this afternoon.


                              Does everyone use Word or Open Office to create ebooks?


                              No, no, no, no no ~ to coin a phrase :-) . Because Word is the WP pushed by the Biggest OS supplier (Microsoft) it is used by most people out of familiarity through work, or lack of knowledge of alternatives. Thus most instructions are addressed to it. But it does have a good level of user ease; the only WP that compares with that, that I know of, is WordPro, which no longer works on Windows.

                              But, since the final state for an ebook, apart from pdf, is html and css, to do it from there immediately saves a lot of extraneous coding that Word, in particular, is good at adding!


                              I had just never thought about how manuscripts are created.

                              I just thought I would flow the text into some HTML document and then insert styles and CSS. Guess that's a beginner's thought.


                              No, it is a coder's thought, and is far from beginner in that aspect. Few understand and can handle html and css beyond very simple needs. Which is why many conversion services options exist.


                              I do see Smashword's insistence upon stripping everything out, then going back into simplifying the format and styles. Also the insistence upon either a block paragraph style or paragraph indent, but not both.


                              Because there are so many device interpretations, the only safe coding is the very simplest [by adding anything you narrow your market], and Smashwords receives every possible variation of "coded manuscript" that publisher man can devise! Their system is automated, and thus sausage factory style. Therefore stripping out all the variations and putting their standard in makes a reliable, if unexciting, Smashwords standard; this is appealing to sellers [and publishers] since the product is reliable for customers.

                              Joseph Harris
                            • jrswebhome
                              Thanks, Raechel. I appreciate your time to respond. ... I use Notepad ++ to create the XHTML, CSS and other files necessary for the ePub. I do some of the
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                                Thanks, Raechel. I appreciate your time to respond. 



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                                I use Notepad ++ to create the XHTML, CSS and other files necessary for the ePub.  I do some of the initial formatting in Word because my authors send me their manuscripts in .RTF format and that is the program I have on hand.  I learned how to create the ePub and what the various files (content.opf, toc.ncx, etc.) from the book EPUB Straight to the Point (http://www.elizabethcastro.com/epub/).

                                I also rely heavily on the advice laid out in here: http://guidohenkel.com/2010/12/take-pride-in-your-ebook-formatting/ which you might find helpful.

                                Raechel


                                On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:16 PM, <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
                                 

                                I have had a chance to review the Smashwords guide this afternoon.


                                Does everyone use Word or Open Office to create ebooks?


                                I had just never thought about how manuscripts are created.

                                I just thought I would flow the text into some HTML document and then insert styles and CSS. Guess that's a beginner's thought.


                                I do see Smashword's insistence upon stripping everything out, then going back into simplifying the format and styles. Also the insistence upon either a block paragraph style or paragraph indent, but not both.



                                ---In ebook-community@yahoogroups.com, <ebook-community@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                                On 04/11/2013 16:59, jrswebhome@... wrote:
                                ����

                                If I look in the coding of an ebook converted to a Calibre ebook, I see "Calibre" named headings, etc. Are you sure it is not a Calibre ebook after the conversion? Why would all the headings change names if it is not a conversion?

                                To understand further, patience please:

                                1. Calibre is only used to convert between different ebook formats?

                                2. The coding within ebooks is html and css?

                                3. What is the difference in html and css?

                                Just trying to understand how to change the insides from such ugly designs.


                                John,

                                If you leave the css to Calibre [or Sigil or other converters] it will use its own progam name; but there is no such thing as a calibre ebook - it converts between formats - there is���� drop down list showing how many formats���� there are.
                                2... yes, html and css are the major coding needs for users, and the core of making ebooks.
                                3... html is the code,while css is the shaping of that code. e.g The Book might be <heading1> in html, and the size and colour and case [capitals, lower case or usually mixed] in css.

                                I recommend Mark Coker's guide [free] on Smashwords to explain the process as your first step to understanding. Changing appearance should be done in Sigil. Later you might develop more skill [depending on how much of this you do] and use more specialised programs. Generally ebooks should be designed simply. You may not be able to achieve what you want. Coker's book will show something of how to do it and what those limitations are.

                                Joseph Harris




                                --
                                Raechel Henderson
                                Publisher / Editor
                                Eggplant Literary Productions
                                Website:  eggplantproductions.com
                                Email:  eggplant@...
                                Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Eggplant-Literary-Productions-Inc/275546535822149
                                Twitter:  @EggplantProduct
                              • mountainman0074
                                If you want pdf output, you can go directly from Word to pdf using any one of several free utilities. I use doPDF . Once installed it looks just like
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                                  If you want pdf output, you can go directly from Word to pdf using any one of several free utilities.  I use "doPDF".  Once installed it looks just like another printer in Windoze. so you can make a pdf of anything you can print.

                                  It takes some learning, but Word can do pretty much any kind of book formatting you can think of.
                                • James Moe
                                  ... I do not understand what you mean here, conversion software is far too easy. Which software? Too easy for whom?
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                                    On 11/04/2013 04:44 PM, auwg@... wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > > Has anyone here used Convert-A-Book in Provo, Utah to create
                                    > e-books? If so, would you recommend them?
                                    >
                                    > At $200 per book for what they're calling a 'draft' version, I doubt
                                    > anyone in this group is using them.
                                    >
                                    > I certainly wouldn't; conversion software is far too easy.
                                    >
                                    I do not understand what you mean here, "conversion software is far too
                                    easy." Which software? Too easy for whom?
                                  • josephHarris
                                    brnmcrk (do you have a name?), Other word processors can do this, some in more sophisticated ways than others. There are simply better tools for better end
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                                      brnmcrk (do you have a name?),

                                      Other word processors can do this, some in more sophisticated ways than others. There are simply better tools for better end results. Straight text poses fewer problems than other content, and Aaron shows how to use Word for decent end-results. Open Office and Symphony are similar to Word, for example, and both are free. There are other free word processors, as well as less sophisticated tools, and highly specialised ones. There are many paid for examples as well.

                                      I will emphasise, before anyone else does, that one needs some familiarity with making ebooks, and maybe with other tools, before taking note of my remarks. And that caution does apply with some advice you will come across, like saving as text and moving to another tool. Those are for later on, when one is clear about the process.

                                      Joseph Harris

                                      On 06/11/2013 12:52, brnmcrk@... wrote:
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                                      If you want pdf output, you can go directly from Word to pdf using any one of several free utilities.�� I use "doPDF".�� Once installed it looks just like another printer in Windoze. so you can make a pdf of anything you can print.

                                      It takes some learning, but Word can do pretty much any kind of book formatting you can think of.

                                      _

                                    • auwg
                                      ... Calibre, for instance. Ed ... I do not understand what you mean here, conversion software is far too easy. Which software? Too easy for whom?
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                                        > I do not understand what you mean here, "conversion software is far too easy." Which software? Too easy for whom?


                                        Calibre, for instance.

                                        Ed




                                        ---In ebook-community@yahoogroups.com, <jimoe666@...> wrote:

                                        On 11/04/2013 04:44 PM, auwg@... wrote:
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                                        >
                                        > > Has anyone here used Convert-A-Book in Provo, Utah to create
                                        > e-books? If so, would you recommend them?
                                        >
                                        > At $200 per book for what they're calling a 'draft' version, I doubt
                                        > anyone in this group is using them.
                                        >
                                        > I certainly wouldn't; conversion software is far too easy.
                                        >
                                        I do not understand what you mean here, "conversion software is far too
                                        easy." Which software? Too easy for whom?
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