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Re: [Fwd: Visual & copy of measures]

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  • P. Dickens
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    Message 1 of 4 , Feb 2, 2007
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      "P. Dickens" wrote:

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      > Steve Wolstenholme wrote:
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      > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:50:20 +0000, you wrote:
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      > > >
      > > >Would it be possible to make the 'Importance' and 'Sensitivity' bar
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      > > >graphs hold their image, when opened either automatically or with
      > the
      > >
      > > >use of a button and then perhaps be able to refresh with a refresh
      > > >button, instead of them keep flashing to take account of the latest
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      > > >modification from the NN?
      > > >
      > > >I also meant to include the Red / Green bar chart showing the first
      >
      > > and
      > > >last 100.
      > > >
      > >
      > > They don't refresh unless the network is learning or a different
      > > output is selected. If the network is learning the bars are
      > refreshed
      > > once every five seconds. If this too frequent? I could add an option
      >
      > > to set the refresh period or to wait for the refresh button.
      > >
      > Probably a good idea, because with some NN the refresh is so fast the
      > chart doesn't stay visible
      > and it is impossible to read, because it keeps flashing.
      >
      > One other thing that is a problem is the XY distribution graph,
      > ploting each entry for Training and Validating
      > in green and red dots.. I find that with large networks, even though,
      > the NN is stopped, one has to wait
      > until the last dot has placed itself before the graph can be closed.
      > and the NN restarted. This is frustrating
      > and time consuming, because I do not know when that will happen I
      > place the window in the bottom bar only
      > to discover when raising it again, thinking it would have finished
      > half an hour later, the blessed thing hasn't completed,
      > it paused whilst minimised and then worse it starts refreshing all
      > over again (that needs to be corrected, it should continue
      > when minimised through to completion), before one has the chance to
      > switch it off, and it just will not allow any other
      > transaction to get the NN moving again.
      >
      > Once I have a general picture that is sufficient, I don't need every
      > single dot in place, but that's what I get, like it or lump it.
      > The bigger the Network the worse this gets, sometimes I have to crash
      > the program just to stop the graph, in order to get the NN going
      > again.
      >
      >
      >
      > > >It would also be useful if one could click say Copy to get the
      > > complete
      > > >record which could then be pasted into a spreadsheet or document
      > and
      > > be
      > > >able to examine and compare without interrupting the NN as well as
      > > >getting the complete list. maybe it could create a ".txt" file
      > > >automatically (less risk of overloading memory) and then one could
      > > copy
      > > >or import that file into a spreadsheet.
      > > >
      > >
      > > Complete record of what?
      > >
      > > A complete record of the Red, Green, top & bottom 100 and all in
      > > between, bar chart.
      > >
      > > Tools > Special Files can save to txt or csv but the network has to
      > > stop. An old release could save while learning but it crashed too
      > > often.
      > >
      > > The Information dialog can be refreshed and saved while learning but
      >
      > > it only saves the basics. Press the 'I' button and try it.
      > >
      >
      > Use this all the time.
      >
      > > Steve
      > >
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      > >
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