Rage Against the Machine BBS shut down
- Another sign of the times -- I haven't seen this reported anywhere else,
just happened to spot this piece that ran 2 weeks ago in the LA Times.
I just checked the RATM website, and the bulletin board is still down --
see below for the official explanation and a message from Tom Morello.
Band's Web Site Message Board Is Pulled
By GEOFF BOUCHER
TIMES STAFF WRITER
September 15 2001
The politically charged rock band Rage Against the Machine
had the bulletin board service on its official Web site yanked
Friday after fans made inflammatory postings -- including one
reportedly threatening President Bush -- in response to this
week's terrorist attacks.
Infopop, a Seattle-based Internet company, cut off its hosting
service to the band's message board after being contacted by
the Secret Service, according to the company's president,
Michael Moore. He said agents inquired about one posting
that has "something in the order of 'kill Bush' in it."
Moore added that the Secret Service scrutiny was prompted
by a report filed by an alarmed user of the message board.
A call to the Secret Service did not yield confirmation of its
reported involvement. Rage Against the Machine's music
has long reflected the band members' strong political views,
which veer toward socialism and rail against capitalistic
excesses, U.S. foreign policies and the military-industrial
complex. The band's Web site ( http://www.ratm.com ) has
far more text devoted to politics than music, and its bulletin
board has sought to rally fans to action. The band's guitarist,
Tom Morello, said Friday that despite any excessive postings
by fans, the message board "always [has] spirited and very
intelligent debate about a wide variety of topics." The band's
Web site, meanwhile, remained online and contained an essay
by Morello expressing condolences to the victims' families
Morello, a Harvard graduate who once worked for the late
California Democratic Sen. Alan Cranston, said while the loss
of the bulletin board was not due to a government order, it
may suggest the chilling of personal freedoms in the months
to come. "The first of many civil liberties to go by the wayside,"
he said. "But we'll get it back up."
>From RATM Website:The official RATM message board has been temporarily closed.
We thank Infopop for their generosity during the past year.
Unfortunately some news agencies have reported INCORRECTLY
that Infopop pulled the hosting due to "anti-American posts"
which is simply not true. Infopop pulled the message board
due to arising difficulties they faced when governmental
authorities contacted them regarding VIOLENT THREATS that
appeared on the BBS. RATM nor Infopop would never support
threats of violence, and we here at RATM.com fully understand
and agree with Infopop's decision to release themselves from
this huge liability of hosting the bbs.
We are endeavoring to correct the situation and get your free exchange
of information and ideas up and running as soon as possible.
In the meantime, you can use this messageboard here as a
Our deepest sympathy and condolences go out to all the people
and their families affected by the attacks on Tuesday. The loss of
innocent life is just terrible, and our thoughts go out to all of you
who personally may have had friends or family killed or injured in
the tragedy. The pain felt across the country demonstrates the
lesson of Tuesday's events: that the taking of innocent life is
devastating to a society and terribly wrong.
On Tuesday, the victims were American. But the horrible scenes
that we've witnessed on TV this week are regular occurrences in
other places around the globe. And too often, violence like this
has been meted out by our own country and its client states. We
should stand together against this type of violence in all its forms,
whenever it happens, whether its done in the name of religious
fanaticism, or in the names of our own domestic elite.
Our best wishes go out to all of you. Take care of yourselves,
and each other.
Please donate to the American Red Cross/International Federation
of Red Cross and Red Crescent
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