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  • Craig Gingold
    Another sign of the times -- I haven t seen this reported anywhere else, just happened to spot this piece that ran 2 weeks ago in the LA Times. I just checked
    Message 1 of 2 , Sep 30, 2001
      Another sign of the times -- I haven't seen this reported anywhere else,
      just happened to spot this piece that ran 2 weeks ago in the LA Times.
      I just checked the RATM website, and the bulletin board is still down --
      see below for the official explanation and a message from Tom Morello.

      Craig Gingold
      Midpines CA


      Band's Web Site Message Board Is Pulled

      By GEOFF BOUCHER
      TIMES STAFF WRITER

      September 15 2001

      The politically charged rock band Rage Against the Machine
      had the bulletin board service on its official Web site yanked
      Friday after fans made inflammatory postings -- including one
      reportedly threatening President Bush -- in response to this
      week's terrorist attacks.

      Infopop, a Seattle-based Internet company, cut off its hosting
      service to the band's message board after being contacted by
      the Secret Service, according to the company's president,
      Michael Moore. He said agents inquired about one posting
      that has "something in the order of 'kill Bush' in it."

      Moore added that the Secret Service scrutiny was prompted
      by a report filed by an alarmed user of the message board.
      A call to the Secret Service did not yield confirmation of its
      reported involvement. Rage Against the Machine's music
      has long reflected the band members' strong political views,
      which veer toward socialism and rail against capitalistic
      excesses, U.S. foreign policies and the military-industrial
      complex. The band's Web site ( http://www.ratm.com ) has
      far more text devoted to politics than music, and its bulletin
      board has sought to rally fans to action. The band's guitarist,
      Tom Morello, said Friday that despite any excessive postings
      by fans, the message board "always [has] spirited and very
      intelligent debate about a wide variety of topics." The band's
      Web site, meanwhile, remained online and contained an essay
      by Morello expressing condolences to the victims' families
      and friends.

      Morello, a Harvard graduate who once worked for the late
      California Democratic Sen. Alan Cranston, said while the loss
      of the bulletin board was not due to a government order, it
      may suggest the chilling of personal freedoms in the months
      to come. "The first of many civil liberties to go by the wayside,"
      he said. "But we'll get it back up."

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      >From RATM Website:

      The official RATM message board has been temporarily closed.

      We thank Infopop for their generosity during the past year.
      Unfortunately some news agencies have reported INCORRECTLY
      that Infopop pulled the hosting due to "anti-American posts"
      which is simply not true. Infopop pulled the message board
      due to arising difficulties they faced when governmental
      authorities contacted them regarding VIOLENT THREATS that
      appeared on the BBS. RATM nor Infopop would never support
      threats of violence, and we here at RATM.com fully understand
      and agree with Infopop's decision to release themselves from
      this huge liability of hosting the bbs.

      We are endeavoring to correct the situation and get your free exchange
      of information and ideas up and running as soon as possible.

      In the meantime, you can use this messageboard here as a
      temporary replacement:
      http://bbs.artistdirect.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=20445

      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

      Our deepest sympathy and condolences go out to all the people
      and their families affected by the attacks on Tuesday. The loss of
      innocent life is just terrible, and our thoughts go out to all of you
      who personally may have had friends or family killed or injured in
      the tragedy. The pain felt across the country demonstrates the
      lesson of Tuesday's events: that the taking of innocent life is
      devastating to a society and terribly wrong.

      On Tuesday, the victims were American. But the horrible scenes
      that we've witnessed on TV this week are regular occurrences in
      other places around the globe. And too often, violence like this
      has been meted out by our own country and its client states. We
      should stand together against this type of violence in all its forms,
      whenever it happens, whether its done in the name of religious
      fanaticism, or in the names of our own domestic elite.

      Our best wishes go out to all of you. Take care of yourselves,
      and each other.

      Peace,

      Tom Morello

      Please donate to the American Red Cross/International Federation
      of Red Cross and Red Crescent

      ===================================================
    • forest campesina
      Date:Mon, 1 Oct 2001 04:44:21 -0700 (PDT)From:Block Address | Add to Address BookSubject:retaliationTo:president@whitehouse.gov [input] [input] [input]
      Message 2 of 2 , Oct 1, 2001
        Date:Mon, 1 Oct 2001 04:44:21 -0700 (PDT)From:Block Address | Add to Address BookSubject:retaliationTo:president@... [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input]

        Sir, Taliban and Afghanistan aside, you have not yetconvinced ME that Bin Laden is guilty. As you areplanning to embark on actions for which I and myfamily and neighbors may have to pay dearly, I thinkyou need to prove to US that these actions arejustified. Even if our actions did not involveterrorism and violence in our own country, I would notwant you to attack another nation or group of peoplein my name without first proving to me that this wasnecessary. It would appear, at this time, that your attitudetoward this entire crisis is that you and your federalminions will take care of these important matters andwe, the people, have no role but to earn money and payfor it. Are you supposing that in a war that bringsviolence and death to our own people, is not our placeto engage in the defense of it? Many of us have very little confidence in theintegrity or the decency of the federal government. Show ... don't tell us, show us ... why we shouldtrust you with something of this magnitude. Elaine Long



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