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  • R. Scott Ireland
    Philippe, Can you tell us what flute(s) you were playing on the 2 Hotteterre CD s? Thanks! Scott ... volume) ... excellent,
    Message 1 of 17 , Jul 8, 2008
      Philippe,

      Can you tell us what flute(s) you were playing on the 2 Hotteterre
      CD's?

      Thanks!

      Scott

      --- In earlyflute@yahoogroups.com, Philippe Allain-Dupré <allain-
      dupre@...> wrote:
      >
      > Thanks for the compliment Paul
      > I am the flute player on this CD
      > Philippe Allain-Dupré
      > http://perso.club-internet.fr/allaindu/discographie/
      > http://perso.club-internet.fr/allaindu/fluterenaissance/
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: pjbjr
      > To: earlyflute@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:15 PM
      > Subject: [earlyflute] Re: Unequal notes in Common time
      >
      >
      > Yes, I like this Naxos CD of the Hotteterre (and its companion
      volume)
      > too. The flute player on the cd (I forget the name), is
      excellent,
      > too.... Paul
      >
    • Philippe Allain-Dupré
      Hi Scott yes unfortunately the booklet doesn t provide information about this. I play a copy I made myself of an anonymous flute now in the Roma museum,
      Message 2 of 17 , Jul 9, 2008
        Hi Scott
        yes unfortunately the booklet doesn't provide information about this.
        I play a copy I made myself of an anonymous flute now in the Roma museum, formerly in the Assisi library.
        This is not a typical French "Hotteterre style" flute , but a good early three-parts flute which works well at so-called French pitch of 392. It seems to be in its original state, while many hotteterre flutes are either fakes, either have been altered by reducing length and enlarging mouthhole. We use three copies in these recordings : an ebony one fore the solo suites and two boxwood copies for the duets.
        When I had to choose a flute for this recording, I was enthralled by Ardal Powell discoveries on Hotteterre fakes in Berlin and St Petersburg, and this flute with a warm and deep sound seemed to me a better choice than a so-called Hotteterre hypothetical copy.
        best wishes
        Philippe
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:17 PM
        Subject: [earlyflute] Re: Unequal notes in Common time

        Philippe,

        Can you tell us what flute(s) you were playing on the 2 Hotteterre
        CD's?

        Thanks!

        Scott

        --- In earlyflute@yahoogro ups.com, Philippe Allain-Dupré <allain-
        dupre@...> wrote:
        >
        > Thanks for the compliment Paul
        > I am the flute player on this CD
        > Philippe Allain-Dupré
        > http://perso. club-internet. fr/allaindu/ discographie/
        > http://perso. club-internet. fr/allaindu/ fluterenaissance /
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: pjbjr
        > To: earlyflute@yahoogro ups.com
        > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:15 PM
        > Subject: [earlyflute] Re: Unequal notes in Common time
        >
        >
        > Yes, I like this Naxos CD of the Hotteterre (and its companion
        volume)
        > too. The flute player on the cd (I forget the name), is
        excellent,
        > too.... Paul
        >

      • R. Scott Ireland
        Thanks for the info, Philippe! I very much enjoy your fine playing and interpretations (and the sound of your flutes!) on both of these recordings. Regards,
        Message 3 of 17 , Jul 9, 2008

          Thanks for the info, Philippe!

           

          I very much enjoy your fine playing and interpretations (and the sound of your flutes!) on both of these recordings.

           

          Regards,

           

          Scott

           


          From: earlyflute@yahoogroups.com [mailto:earlyflute@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philippe Allain-Dupré
          Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:31 AM
          To: earlyflute@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [earlyflute] Re: Unequal notes in Common time

           

          Hi Scott

          yes unfortunately the booklet doesn't provide information about this.

          I play a copy I made myself of an anonymous flute now in the Roma museum, formerly in the Assisi library.

          This is not a typical French "Hotteterre style" flute , but a good early three-parts flute which works well at so-called French pitch of 392. It seems to be in its original state, while many hotteterre flutes are either fakes, either have been altered by reducing length and enlarging mouthhole. We use three copies in these recordings : an ebony one fore the solo suites and two boxwood copies for the duets.

          When I had to choose a flute for this recording, I was enthralled by Ardal Powell discoveries on Hotteterre fakes in Berlin and St Petersburg , and this flute with a warm and deep sound seemed to me a better choice than a so-called Hotteterre hypothetical copy.

          best wishes

          Philippe

           

          ----- Original Message -----

          Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:17 PM

          Subject: [earlyflute] Re: Unequal notes in Common time

           

          Philippe,

          Can you tell us what flute(s) you were playing on the 2 Hotteterre
          CD's?

          Thanks!

          Scott

          --- In earlyflute@yahoogro ups.com, Philippe Allain-Dupré <allain-
          dupre@...> wrote:
          >
          > Thanks for the compliment Paul
          > I am the flute player on this CD
          > Philippe Allain-Dupré
          > http://perso. club-internet. fr/allaindu/ discographie/
          > http://perso. club-internet. fr/allaindu/ fluterenaissance /
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: pjbjr
          > To: earlyflute@yahoogro ups.com
          > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:15 PM
          > Subject: [earlyflute] Re: Unequal notes in Common time
          >
          >
          > Yes, I like this Naxos CD of the Hotteterre (and its companion
          volume)
          > too. The flute player on the cd (I forget the name), is
          excellent,
          > too.... Paul
          >

        • pjbjr
          I agree. I very much enjoy those recordings too. Does anyone know if other copies of the flute of the flute played on that recordinga are currently being
          Message 4 of 17 , Jul 9, 2008
            I agree. I very much enjoy those recordings too. Does anyone know if
            other copies of the flute of the flute played on that recordinga are
            currently being produced? I would be curious to try one! Thanks! Paul
          • Philippe Allain-Dupré
            Hi Paul and Scott afaik, Italian makers such as Filadelfio Puglisi and Giovanni Tardino make copies of the Assisi flute, as well as me. The three of us are
            Message 5 of 17 , Jul 9, 2008
              Hi Paul and Scott
              afaik, Italian makers such as Filadelfio Puglisi and Giovanni Tardino make copies of the Assisi flute, as well as me.
              The three of us are specialised in Renaissance flute making, and the Assisi flute is closer to a Renaissance flute than the French models, Naust, Bressan, Chevalier or Hotteterre we know : larger and less tapering bore, tuning intended for flat keys, mouthhole elliptical with the major axis across the flute are Renaissance flute caracteristics.
              Now take care than the sound of a CD is also the result of a wonderful acoustics,  the small chirch near Castres and of a very good sound engineer, Manuel Mohino. That helps and is not sold with every copies of the Assisi flute!
              best wishes
              philippe
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: pjbjr
              Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:08 PM
              Subject: [earlyflute] Re: Unequal notes in Common time

              I agree. I very much enjoy those recordings too. Does anyone know if
              other copies of the flute of the flute played on that recordinga are
              currently being produced? I would be curious to try one! Thanks! Paul

            • James Roland Harris
              Hi Paul, As you may already know, a number of makers copy the Graz ebony Hotteterre -- Alain Weemaels, Folkers & Powell, Rod Cameron. Filadelfio Puglisi makes
              Message 6 of 17 , Jul 9, 2008
                Hi Paul,

                As you may already know, a number of makers copy the Graz ebony Hotteterre -- Alain Weemaels, Folkers & Powell, Rod Cameron.  Filadelfio Puglisi makes a boxwood copy of the "Assisi" three-piece flute, although as far as I know, he will only make it if you can visit him in Florence and pick up the flute personally, owing to the possibility of the boxwood suffering damage or warping in the shipping process.   But check with him at <www.renaissanceflute.com>, and say Hi from me.

                Best,
                Jim




                pjbjr wrote:

                I agree. I very much enjoy those recordings too. Does anyone know if
                other copies of the flute of the flute played on that recordinga are


              • pjbjr
                Thank you for the link, I had not seen this before. Very interesting and beautiful flute! Regards, Paul
                Message 7 of 17 , Jul 10, 2008
                  Thank you for the link, I had not seen this before. Very interesting
                  and beautiful flute! Regards, Paul
                • pjbjr
                  Jim, I ran into this youtube of the Assisi flute the other day and found it interesting. I thought others might also have an interest.
                  Message 8 of 17 , Aug 19, 2008
                    Jim, I ran into this youtube of the Assisi flute the other day and
                    found it interesting. I thought others might also have an interest.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKQLIgTOsuM
                    Paul
                    --- In earlyflute@yahoogroups.com, James Roland Harris
                    <jimrharris@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Hi Paul,
                    >
                    > As you may already know, a number of makers copy the Graz ebony
                    > Hotteterre -- Alain Weemaels, Folkers & Powell, Rod Cameron.
                    Filadelfio
                    > Puglisi makes a boxwood copy of the "Assisi" three-piece flute,
                    although
                    > as far as I know, he will only make it if you can visit him in
                    Florence
                    > and pick up the flute personally, owing to the possibility of the
                    > boxwood suffering damage or warping in the shipping process. But
                    check
                    > with him at <www.renaissanceflute.com>, and say Hi from me.
                    >
                    > Best,
                    > Jim
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > pjbjr wrote:
                    > >
                    > > I agree. I very much enjoy those recordings too. Does anyone know
                    if
                    > > other copies of the flute of the flute played on that recordinga
                    are
                    > >
                    >
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