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  • rdvrey
    Hi, I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am allready using Band master dx-atlas. Do you know of such programs. 73, Robert PE1CWU
    Message 1 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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      Hi,

      I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
      allready using Band master dx-atlas.

      Do you know of such programs.

      73,

      Robert PE1CWU
    • Dan Schaaf
      AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster. go to www.DXSoft.com Best Regards Dan Schaaf K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com In the Beginning,
      Message 2 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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        AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster. go to www.DXSoft.com


        Best Regards
        Dan Schaaf
        K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: rdvrey
        To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
        Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


        Hi,

        I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
        allready using Band master dx-atlas.

        Do you know of such programs.

        73,

        Robert PE1CWU





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      • rdvrey
        ... go to www.DXSoft.com ... But does it retreive information from my rig? Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ? Like Log Window 4.5? 73, Robert
        Message 3 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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          --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
          >
          > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.
          go to www.DXSoft.com
          >
          >
          > Best Regards
          > Dan Schaaf
          > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: rdvrey
          > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
          > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
          >
          >
          > Hi,
          >
          > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
          > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
          >
          > Do you know of such programs.
          >
          > 73,
          >
          > Robert PE1CWU
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >
          But does it retreive information from my rig?
          Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
          Like Log Window 4.5?

          73,

          Robert
        • Dan Schaaf
          You don t tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and if the spot is split
          Message 4 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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            You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the New QSO window of the log.

            And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country, it is shown in black in BM.

            And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

            Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot of searching.

            Best Regards
            Dan Schaaf
            K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: rdvrey
            To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
            Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


            --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
            >
            > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.
            go to www.DXSoft.com
            >
            >
            > Best Regards
            > Dan Schaaf
            > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: rdvrey
            > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
            > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
            >
            >
            > Hi,
            >
            > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
            > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
            >
            > Do you know of such programs.
            >
            > 73,
            >
            > Robert PE1CWU
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
            But does it retreive information from my rig?
            Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
            Like Log Window 4.5?

            73,

            Robert





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          • rdvrey
            ... a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set accordingly. And the DX
            Message 5 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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              --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
              >
              > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on
              a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
              if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
              accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
              New QSO window of the log.
              >
              > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
              shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then
              it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
              it is shown in black in BM.
              >
              > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
              >
              > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
              gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
              of searching.
              >
              > Best Regards
              > Dan Schaaf
              > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
              >
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: rdvrey
              > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
              > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
              >
              >
              > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
              wrote:
              > >
              > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.
              > go to www.DXSoft.com
              > >
              > >
              > > Best Regards
              > > Dan Schaaf
              > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
              > >
              > > ----- Original Message -----
              > > From: rdvrey
              > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
              > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
              > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
              > >
              > >
              > > Hi,
              > >
              > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
              > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
              > >
              > > Do you know of such programs.
              > >
              > > 73,
              > >
              > > Robert PE1CWU
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > >
              > But does it retreive information from my rig?
              > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
              > Like Log Window 4.5?
              >
              > 73,
              >
              > Robert
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >

              Hi,

              Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
              since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

              73,

              Robert
            • Dan Schaaf
              I use a knob on my radio labeled VFO for small adjustments after I have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a digital adjustment in
              Message 6 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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                I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a digital adjustment in the software.

                Best Regards
                Dan Schaaf
                K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: rdvrey
                To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


                --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
                >
                > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on
                a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
                if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
                New QSO window of the log.
                >
                > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
                shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then
                it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
                it is shown in black in BM.
                >
                > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
                >
                > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
                gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
                of searching.
                >
                > Best Regards
                > Dan Schaaf
                > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: rdvrey
                > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                >
                >
                > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                wrote:
                > >
                > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.
                > go to www.DXSoft.com
                > >
                > >
                > > Best Regards
                > > Dan Schaaf
                > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: rdvrey
                > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                > >
                > >
                > > Hi,
                > >
                > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
                > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                > >
                > > Do you know of such programs.
                > >
                > > 73,
                > >
                > > Robert PE1CWU
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                > >
                > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                > Like Log Window 4.5?
                >
                > 73,
                >
                > Robert
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >

                Hi,

                Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
                since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

                73,

                Robert





                [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              • rdvrey
                Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is up 2 feet higer
                Message 7 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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                  Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its
                  handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is
                  up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC
                  too.

                  --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I
                  have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
                  digital adjustment in the software.
                  >
                  > Best Regards
                  > Dan Schaaf
                  > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                  >
                  > ----- Original Message -----
                  > From: rdvrey
                  > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                  > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                  wrote:
                  > >
                  > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on
                  > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
                  > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                  > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
                  > New QSO window of the log.
                  > >
                  > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
                  > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then
                  > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
                  > it is shown in black in BM.
                  > >
                  > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
                  > >
                  > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
                  > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
                  > of searching.
                  > >
                  > > Best Regards
                  > > Dan Schaaf
                  > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                  > >
                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > From: rdvrey
                  > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                  > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                  > wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                  Bandmaster.
                  > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > Best Regards
                  > > > Dan Schaaf
                  > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                  > > >
                  > > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > > From: rdvrey
                  > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                  > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                  > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > Hi,
                  > > >
                  > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
                  > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                  > > >
                  > > > Do you know of such programs.
                  > > >
                  > > > 73,
                  > > >
                  > > > Robert PE1CWU
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  > > >
                  > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                  > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                  > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                  > >
                  > > 73,
                  > >
                  > > Robert
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  > >
                  >
                  > Hi,
                  >
                  > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
                  > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                  >
                  > 73,
                  >
                  > Robert
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  >
                • Dan Schaaf
                  Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in operation, the left
                  Message 8 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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                    Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
                    And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all other accessories offset from the radio.

                    Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
                    But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.

                    BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

                    Best Regards
                    Dan Schaaf
                    K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                    ===============================
                    NOBSKA
                    www.nobska.net
                    ===============================
                    Cape Cod Instruments
                    www.oceanbiz.net
                    ===============================
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: rdvrey
                    To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
                    Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


                    Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its
                    handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is
                    up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC
                    too.

                    --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I
                    have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
                    digital adjustment in the software.
                    >
                    > Best Regards
                    > Dan Schaaf
                    > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                    >
                    > ----- Original Message -----
                    > From: rdvrey
                    > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                    > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                    > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                    >
                    >
                    > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                    wrote:
                    > >
                    > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on
                    > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
                    > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                    > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
                    > New QSO window of the log.
                    > >
                    > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
                    > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then
                    > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
                    > it is shown in black in BM.
                    > >
                    > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
                    > >
                    > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
                    > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
                    > of searching.
                    > >
                    > > Best Regards
                    > > Dan Schaaf
                    > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                    > >
                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > From: rdvrey
                    > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                    > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                    > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                    > wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                    Bandmaster.
                    > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > Best Regards
                    > > > Dan Schaaf
                    > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                    > > >
                    > > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > > From: rdvrey
                    > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                    > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                    > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > Hi,
                    > > >
                    > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
                    > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                    > > >
                    > > > Do you know of such programs.
                    > > >
                    > > > 73,
                    > > >
                    > > > Robert PE1CWU
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    > > >
                    > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                    > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                    > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                    > >
                    > > 73,
                    > >
                    > > Robert
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    > >
                    >
                    > Hi,
                    >
                    > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
                    > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                    >
                    > 73,
                    >
                    > Robert
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    >





                    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  • rdvrey
                    It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as any rig now a days
                    Message 9 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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                      It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to
                      work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
                      any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
                      computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
                      to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
                      due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
                      analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
                      communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
                      works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook
                      that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
                      you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
                      test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

                      --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
                      on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in
                      operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
                      hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
                      efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying
                      to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
                      skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
                      nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for
                      your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
                      > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
                      other accessories offset from the radio.
                      >
                      > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
                      > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
                      setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe
                      the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.
                      >
                      > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the
                      actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
                      allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
                      >
                      > Best Regards
                      > Dan Schaaf
                      > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                      > ===============================
                      > NOBSKA
                      > www.nobska.net
                      > ===============================
                      > Cape Cod Instruments
                      > www.oceanbiz.net
                      > ===============================
                      > ----- Original Message -----
                      > From: rdvrey
                      > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                      > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
                      > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                      >
                      >
                      > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its
                      > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is
                      > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC
                      > too.
                      >
                      > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                      wrote:
                      > >
                      > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I
                      > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
                      > digital adjustment in the software.
                      > >
                      > > Best Regards
                      > > Dan Schaaf
                      > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                      > >
                      > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > From: rdvrey
                      > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                      > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                      > wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
                      clicking on
                      > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
                      > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                      > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
                      > > New QSO window of the log.
                      > > >
                      > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
                      > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
                      logged, then
                      > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
                      > > it is shown in black in BM.
                      > > >
                      > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
                      > > >
                      > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
                      > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
                      > > of searching.
                      > > >
                      > > > Best Regards
                      > > > Dan Schaaf
                      > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                      > > >
                      > > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > > From: rdvrey
                      > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                      > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                      > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                      > > wrote:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                      > Bandmaster.
                      > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Best Regards
                      > > > > Dan Schaaf
                      > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                      > > > >
                      > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > > > From: rdvrey
                      > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                      > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                      > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Hi,
                      > > > >
                      > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
                      i am
                      > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Do you know of such programs.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > 73,
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Robert PE1CWU
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      > > > >
                      > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                      > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                      > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                      > > >
                      > > > 73,
                      > > >
                      > > > Robert
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > > Hi,
                      > >
                      > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
                      > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                      > >
                      > > 73,
                      > >
                      > > Robert
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      > >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      >
                    • Dan Schaaf
                      Dear Robert I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the HAMPORT
                      Message 10 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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                        Dear Robert

                        I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.

                        BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.

                        Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963. Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897) for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.

                        If you are interested, my credentials are:
                        My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help them further their education.
                        In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800 processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
                        Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar satellite tracking.
                        Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel selectors on TVs.

                        So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.

                        Best Regards
                        Dan Schaaf
                        K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                        ===============================
                        NOBSKA
                        www.nobska.net
                        ===============================
                        Cape Cod Instruments
                        www.oceanbiz.net
                        ===============================

                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: rdvrey
                        To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
                        Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


                        It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to
                        work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
                        any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
                        computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
                        to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
                        due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
                        analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
                        communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
                        works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook
                        that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
                        you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
                        test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

                        --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
                        on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in
                        operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
                        hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
                        efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying
                        to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
                        skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
                        nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for
                        your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
                        > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
                        other accessories offset from the radio.
                        >
                        > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
                        > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
                        setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe
                        the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.
                        >
                        > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the
                        actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
                        allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
                        >
                        > Best Regards
                        > Dan Schaaf
                        > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                        > ===============================
                        > NOBSKA
                        > www.nobska.net
                        > ===============================
                        > Cape Cod Instruments
                        > www.oceanbiz.net
                        > ===============================
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > From: rdvrey
                        > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                        > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
                        > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                        >
                        >
                        > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its
                        > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is
                        > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC
                        > too.
                        >
                        > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                        wrote:
                        > >
                        > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I
                        > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
                        > digital adjustment in the software.
                        > >
                        > > Best Regards
                        > > Dan Schaaf
                        > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                        > >
                        > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > From: rdvrey
                        > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                        > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                        > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                        > wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
                        clicking on
                        > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
                        > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                        > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
                        > > New QSO window of the log.
                        > > >
                        > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
                        > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
                        logged, then
                        > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
                        > > it is shown in black in BM.
                        > > >
                        > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
                        > > >
                        > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
                        > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
                        > > of searching.
                        > > >
                        > > > Best Regards
                        > > > Dan Schaaf
                        > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                        > > >
                        > > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > > From: rdvrey
                        > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                        > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                        > > wrote:
                        > > > >
                        > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                        > Bandmaster.
                        > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Best Regards
                        > > > > Dan Schaaf
                        > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                        > > > >
                        > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > > > From: rdvrey
                        > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                        > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Hi,
                        > > > >
                        > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
                        i am
                        > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Do you know of such programs.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > 73,
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Robert PE1CWU
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        > > > >
                        > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                        > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                        > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                        > > >
                        > > > 73,
                        > > >
                        > > > Robert
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        > > >
                        > >
                        > > Hi,
                        > >
                        > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
                        > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                        > >
                        > > 73,
                        > >
                        > > Robert
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        > >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        >





                        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      • rdvrey
                        Dear Dan I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system but it
                        Message 11 of 19 , Jul 2, 2008
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                          Dear Dan

                          I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
                          alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
                          but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
                          assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
                          channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
                          With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
                          software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
                          up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
                          the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
                          to date database this way.

                          73,

                          Robert

                          --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Dear Robert
                          >
                          > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
                          the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
                          HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
                          >
                          > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
                          amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
                          >
                          > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
                          Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
                          for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
                          worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
                          >
                          > If you are interested, my credentials are:
                          > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
                          built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
                          them further their education.
                          > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
                          processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
                          an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
                          (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
                          > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
                          satellite tracking.
                          > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
                          the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
                          college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
                          to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
                          engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
                          accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
                          selectors on TVs.
                          >
                          > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
                          >
                          > Best Regards
                          > Dan Schaaf
                          > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                          > ===============================
                          > NOBSKA
                          > www.nobska.net
                          > ===============================
                          > Cape Cod Instruments
                          > www.oceanbiz.net
                          > ===============================
                          >
                          > ----- Original Message -----
                          > From: rdvrey
                          > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                          > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
                          > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                          >
                          >
                          > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to
                          > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
                          > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
                          > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
                          > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
                          > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
                          > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
                          > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
                          > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook
                          > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
                          > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
                          > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
                          >
                          > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                          wrote:
                          > >
                          > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
                          > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in
                          > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
                          > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
                          > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying
                          > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
                          > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
                          > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for
                          > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
                          > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
                          > other accessories offset from the radio.
                          > >
                          > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
                          > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
                          > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe
                          > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.
                          > >
                          > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the
                          > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
                          > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
                          > >
                          > > Best Regards
                          > > Dan Schaaf
                          > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                          > > ===============================
                          > > NOBSKA
                          > > www.nobska.net
                          > > ===============================
                          > > Cape Cod Instruments
                          > > www.oceanbiz.net
                          > > ===============================
                          > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > From: rdvrey
                          > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                          > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
                          > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
                          mouse its
                          > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
                          rig is
                          > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
                          the PC
                          > > too.
                          > >
                          > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                          > wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
                          after I
                          > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
                          > > digital adjustment in the software.
                          > > >
                          > > > Best Regards
                          > > > Dan Schaaf
                          > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                          > > >
                          > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > From: rdvrey
                          > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                          > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                          > > wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
                          > clicking on
                          > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
                          frequency and
                          > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                          > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
                          into the
                          > > > New QSO window of the log.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
                          > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
                          > logged, then
                          > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
                          country,
                          > > > it is shown in black in BM.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
                          > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
                          a lot
                          > > > of searching.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Best Regards
                          > > > > Dan Schaaf
                          > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                          > > > >
                          > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > > From: rdvrey
                          > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                          > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                          > > > wrote:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                          > > Bandmaster.
                          > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Best Regards
                          > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                          > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > > > From: rdvrey
                          > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                          > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Hi,
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
                          > i am
                          > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > 73,
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                          > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                          > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 73,
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Robert
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Hi,
                          > > >
                          > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
                          > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                          > > >
                          > > > 73,
                          > > >
                          > > > Robert
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          > >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          >
                        • Alex, VE3NEA
                          Hi Robert, I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He answered,
                          Message 12 of 19 , Jul 3, 2008
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                            Hi Robert,

                            I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if
                            automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He
                            answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't exactly
                            fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.

                            73 Alex VE3NEA





                            ----- Original Message -----
                            From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
                            To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
                            Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM
                            Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


                            Dear Dan

                            I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
                            alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
                            but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
                            assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
                            channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
                            With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
                            software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
                            up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
                            the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
                            to date database this way.

                            73,

                            Robert

                            --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Dear Robert
                            >
                            > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
                            the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
                            HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
                            >
                            > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
                            amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
                            >
                            > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
                            Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
                            for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
                            worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
                            >
                            > If you are interested, my credentials are:
                            > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
                            built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
                            them further their education.
                            > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
                            processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
                            an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
                            (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
                            > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
                            satellite tracking.
                            > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
                            the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
                            college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
                            to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
                            engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
                            accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
                            selectors on TVs.
                            >
                            > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
                            >
                            > Best Regards
                            > Dan Schaaf
                            > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                            > ===============================
                            > NOBSKA
                            > www.nobska.net
                            > ===============================
                            > Cape Cod Instruments
                            > www.oceanbiz.net
                            > ===============================
                            >
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > From: rdvrey
                            > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                            > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
                            > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                            >
                            >
                            > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to
                            > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
                            > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
                            > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
                            > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
                            > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
                            > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
                            > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
                            > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook
                            > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
                            > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
                            > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
                            >
                            > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                            wrote:
                            > >
                            > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
                            > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in
                            > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
                            > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
                            > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying
                            > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
                            > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
                            > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for
                            > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
                            > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
                            > other accessories offset from the radio.
                            > >
                            > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
                            > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
                            > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe
                            > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.
                            > >
                            > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the
                            > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
                            > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
                            > >
                            > > Best Regards
                            > > Dan Schaaf
                            > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                            > > ===============================
                            > > NOBSKA
                            > > www.nobska.net
                            > > ===============================
                            > > Cape Cod Instruments
                            > > www.oceanbiz.net
                            > > ===============================
                            > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > From: rdvrey
                            > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                            > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
                            > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
                            mouse its
                            > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
                            rig is
                            > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
                            the PC
                            > > too.
                            > >
                            > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                            > wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
                            after I
                            > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
                            > > digital adjustment in the software.
                            > > >
                            > > > Best Regards
                            > > > Dan Schaaf
                            > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                            > > >
                            > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > From: rdvrey
                            > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                            > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                            > > wrote:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
                            > clicking on
                            > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
                            frequency and
                            > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                            > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
                            into the
                            > > > New QSO window of the log.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
                            > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
                            > logged, then
                            > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
                            country,
                            > > > it is shown in black in BM.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
                            > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
                            a lot
                            > > > of searching.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Best Regards
                            > > > > Dan Schaaf
                            > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                            > > > >
                            > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > From: rdvrey
                            > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                            > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                            > > > wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                            > > Bandmaster.
                            > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Best Regards
                            > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                            > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > > From: rdvrey
                            > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                            > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Hi,
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
                            > i am
                            > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > 73,
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                            > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                            > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 73,
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Robert
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > Hi,
                            > > >
                            > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
                            > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                            > > >
                            > > > 73,
                            > > >
                            > > > Robert
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            > >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            >
                          • rdvrey
                            Hi Alex, I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information has much
                            Message 13 of 19 , Jul 3, 2008
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                              Hi Alex,

                              I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold
                              the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information
                              has much bigger value, to bad.

                              73,

                              Robert PE1CWU

                              --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > Hi Robert,
                              >
                              > I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if
                              > automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He
                              > answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't
                              exactly
                              > fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.
                              >
                              > 73 Alex VE3NEA
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > ----- Original Message -----
                              > From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
                              > To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
                              > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM
                              > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                              >
                              >
                              > Dear Dan
                              >
                              > I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
                              > alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
                              > but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
                              > assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
                              > channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
                              > With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
                              > software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
                              > up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
                              > the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
                              > to date database this way.
                              >
                              > 73,
                              >
                              > Robert
                              >
                              > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > Dear Robert
                              > >
                              > > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
                              > the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
                              > HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
                              > >
                              > > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
                              > amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
                              > >
                              > > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
                              > Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
                              > for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
                              > worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
                              > >
                              > > If you are interested, my credentials are:
                              > > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
                              > built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
                              > them further their education.
                              > > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
                              > processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
                              > an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
                              > (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
                              > > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
                              > satellite tracking.
                              > > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
                              > the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
                              > college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
                              > to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
                              > engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
                              > accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
                              > selectors on TVs.
                              > >
                              > > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
                              > >
                              > > Best Regards
                              > > Dan Schaaf
                              > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                              > > ===============================
                              > > NOBSKA
                              > > www.nobska.net
                              > > ===============================
                              > > Cape Cod Instruments
                              > > www.oceanbiz.net
                              > > ===============================
                              > >
                              > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > From: rdvrey
                              > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                              > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
                              > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You
                              like to
                              > > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
                              > > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
                              > > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
                              > > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
                              > > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
                              > > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
                              > > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
                              > > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a
                              logbook
                              > > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
                              > > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
                              > > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
                              > >
                              > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                              > wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
                              > > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and
                              DXPeditions in
                              > > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
                              > > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
                              > > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or
                              trying
                              > > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
                              > > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
                              > > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are
                              tuning for
                              > > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
                              > > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
                              > > other accessories offset from the radio.
                              > > >
                              > > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
                              > > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
                              > > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or
                              maybe
                              > > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for
                              you.
                              > > >
                              > > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport
                              is the
                              > > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
                              > > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
                              > > >
                              > > > Best Regards
                              > > > Dan Schaaf
                              > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                              > > > ===============================
                              > > > NOBSKA
                              > > > www.nobska.net
                              > > > ===============================
                              > > > Cape Cod Instruments
                              > > > www.oceanbiz.net
                              > > > ===============================
                              > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > From: rdvrey
                              > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
                              > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
                              > mouse its
                              > > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
                              > rig is
                              > > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
                              > the PC
                              > > > too.
                              > > >
                              > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                              > > wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
                              > after I
                              > > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around
                              with a
                              > > > digital adjustment in the software.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Best Regards
                              > > > > Dan Schaaf
                              > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                              > > > >
                              > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > From: rdvrey
                              > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                              > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                              > > > wrote:
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
                              > > clicking on
                              > > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
                              > frequency and
                              > > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                              > > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
                              > into the
                              > > > > New QSO window of the log.
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already
                              worked, BM
                              > > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
                              > > logged, then
                              > > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
                              > country,
                              > > > > it is shown in black in BM.
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is
                              underlined.
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and
                              it has
                              > > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
                              > a lot
                              > > > > of searching.
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Best Regards
                              > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                              > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > > From: rdvrey
                              > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                              > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"
                              <dan-schaaf@>
                              > > > > wrote:
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                              > > > Bandmaster.
                              > > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Best Regards
                              > > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                              > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > > > From: rdvrey
                              > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                              > > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Hi,
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
                              > > i am
                              > > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > 73,
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                              > > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                              > > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > 73,
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Robert
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Hi,
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small
                              steps,
                              > > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > 73,
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Robert
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              > > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              > > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              > >
                              >
                            • Dan Schaaf
                              Robert Are you aware of the feature button in BM which lets you look up on QRZ.com ? It only brings up the webpage, but does not insert the info into log. Too
                              Message 14 of 19 , Jul 3, 2008
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                                Robert

                                Are you aware of the feature button in BM which lets you look up on QRZ.com ? It only brings up the webpage, but does not insert the info into log. Too bad, would be nice.

                                I wish Alex would add 2 features to BM.
                                1) Auto update of LOTW user list
                                2) Quick Memory buttons for user defined memories especially for DXPed freqs and the 5 channels for 60 meters.
                                3) For you Robert, the mouse adjustment of frequency in BM same as in HAMPORT

                                For as much as I try to simplify my life , it seems always that technology adds another level of complexity to my life which I end up enjoying.


                                Best Regards
                                Dan Schaaf
                                K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                ===============================
                                NOBSKA
                                www.nobska.net
                                ===============================
                                Cape Cod Instruments
                                www.oceanbiz.net
                                ===============================
                                ----- Original Message -----
                                From: rdvrey
                                To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:18 AM
                                Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


                                Dear Dan

                                I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
                                alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
                                but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
                                assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
                                channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
                                With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
                                software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
                                up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
                                the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
                                to date database this way.

                                73,

                                Robert

                                --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > Dear Robert
                                >
                                > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
                                the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
                                HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
                                >
                                > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
                                amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
                                >
                                > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
                                Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
                                for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
                                worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
                                >
                                > If you are interested, my credentials are:
                                > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
                                built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
                                them further their education.
                                > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
                                processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
                                an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
                                (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
                                > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
                                satellite tracking.
                                > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
                                the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
                                college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
                                to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
                                engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
                                accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
                                selectors on TVs.
                                >
                                > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
                                >
                                > Best Regards
                                > Dan Schaaf
                                > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                > ===============================
                                > NOBSKA
                                > www.nobska.net
                                > ===============================
                                > Cape Cod Instruments
                                > www.oceanbiz.net
                                > ===============================
                                >
                                > ----- Original Message -----
                                > From: rdvrey
                                > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
                                > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                >
                                >
                                > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to
                                > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
                                > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
                                > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
                                > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
                                > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
                                > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
                                > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
                                > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook
                                > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
                                > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
                                > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
                                >
                                > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                wrote:
                                > >
                                > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
                                > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in
                                > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
                                > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
                                > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying
                                > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
                                > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
                                > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for
                                > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
                                > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
                                > other accessories offset from the radio.
                                > >
                                > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
                                > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
                                > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe
                                > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.
                                > >
                                > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the
                                > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
                                > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
                                > >
                                > > Best Regards
                                > > Dan Schaaf
                                > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                > > ===============================
                                > > NOBSKA
                                > > www.nobska.net
                                > > ===============================
                                > > Cape Cod Instruments
                                > > www.oceanbiz.net
                                > > ===============================
                                > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > From: rdvrey
                                > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
                                > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
                                mouse its
                                > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
                                rig is
                                > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
                                the PC
                                > > too.
                                > >
                                > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                > wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
                                after I
                                > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
                                > > digital adjustment in the software.
                                > > >
                                > > > Best Regards
                                > > > Dan Schaaf
                                > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                > > >
                                > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > From: rdvrey
                                > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                                > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                > > wrote:
                                > > > >
                                > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
                                > clicking on
                                > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
                                frequency and
                                > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                                > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
                                into the
                                > > > New QSO window of the log.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
                                > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
                                > logged, then
                                > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
                                country,
                                > > > it is shown in black in BM.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
                                > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
                                a lot
                                > > > of searching.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Best Regards
                                > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                > > > >
                                > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > > From: rdvrey
                                > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                                > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                > > > wrote:
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                                > > Bandmaster.
                                > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Best Regards
                                > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > > > From: rdvrey
                                > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                                > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Hi,
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
                                > i am
                                > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > 73,
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                                > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                                > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                                > > > >
                                > > > > 73,
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Robert
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > Hi,
                                > > >
                                > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
                                > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                                > > >
                                > > > 73,
                                > > >
                                > > > Robert
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                > > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                > >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
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                                >





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                              • Pete Smith
                                Perhaps something could be worked out so that they could have a subscription portal, and access would only work if your subscription was current. You might
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                                  Perhaps something could be worked out so that they could have a
                                  subscription portal, and access would only work if your subscription was
                                  current.

                                  You might want to suggest it to the people at QRZ.

                                  73, Pete N4ZR

                                  At 08:43 AM 7/3/2008, rdvrey wrote:
                                  >Hi Alex,
                                  >
                                  >I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold
                                  >the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information
                                  >has much bigger value, to bad.
                                  >
                                  >73,
                                  >
                                  >Robert PE1CWU
                                  >
                                  >--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > Hi Robert,
                                  > >
                                  > > I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if
                                  > > automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He
                                  > > answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't
                                  >exactly
                                  > > fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.
                                  > >
                                  > > 73 Alex VE3NEA
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
                                  > > To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM
                                  > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Dear Dan
                                  > >
                                  > > I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
                                  > > alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
                                  > > but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
                                  > > assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
                                  > > channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
                                  > > With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
                                  > > software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
                                  > > up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
                                  > > the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
                                  > > to date database this way.
                                  > >
                                  > > 73,
                                  > >
                                  > > Robert
                                  > >
                                  > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Dear Robert
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
                                  > > the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
                                  > > HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
                                  > > amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
                                  > > Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
                                  > > for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
                                  > > worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > If you are interested, my credentials are:
                                  > > > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
                                  > > built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
                                  > > them further their education.
                                  > > > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
                                  > > processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
                                  > > an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
                                  > > (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
                                  > > > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
                                  > > satellite tracking.
                                  > > > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
                                  > > the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
                                  > > college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
                                  > > to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
                                  > > engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
                                  > > accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
                                  > > selectors on TVs.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Best Regards
                                  > > > Dan Schaaf
                                  > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                  > > > ===============================
                                  > > > NOBSKA
                                  > > > www.nobska.net
                                  > > > ===============================
                                  > > > Cape Cod Instruments
                                  > > > www.oceanbiz.net
                                  > > > ===============================
                                  > > >
                                  > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > From: rdvrey
                                  > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
                                  > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You
                                  >like to
                                  > > > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
                                  > > > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
                                  > > > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
                                  > > > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
                                  > > > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
                                  > > > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
                                  > > > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
                                  > > > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a
                                  >logbook
                                  > > > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
                                  > > > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
                                  > > > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                  > > wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
                                  > > > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and
                                  >DXPeditions in
                                  > > > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
                                  > > > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
                                  > > > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or
                                  >trying
                                  > > > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
                                  > > > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
                                  > > > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are
                                  >tuning for
                                  > > > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
                                  > > > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
                                  > > > other accessories offset from the radio.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
                                  > > > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
                                  > > > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or
                                  >maybe
                                  > > > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for
                                  >you.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport
                                  >is the
                                  > > > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
                                  > > > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Best Regards
                                  > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                  > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                  > > > > ===============================
                                  > > > > NOBSKA
                                  > > > > www.nobska.net
                                  > > > > ===============================
                                  > > > > Cape Cod Instruments
                                  > > > > www.oceanbiz.net
                                  > > > > ===============================
                                  > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > > From: rdvrey
                                  > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
                                  > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
                                  > > mouse its
                                  > > > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
                                  > > rig is
                                  > > > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
                                  > > the PC
                                  > > > > too.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                  > > > wrote:
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
                                  > > after I
                                  > > > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around
                                  >with a
                                  > > > > digital adjustment in the software.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Best Regards
                                  > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                  > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > > > From: rdvrey
                                  > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                                  > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                  > > > > wrote:
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
                                  > > > clicking on
                                  > > > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
                                  > > frequency and
                                  > > > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                                  > > > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
                                  > > into the
                                  > > > > > New QSO window of the log.
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already
                                  >worked, BM
                                  > > > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
                                  > > > logged, then
                                  > > > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
                                  > > country,
                                  > > > > > it is shown in black in BM.
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is
                                  >underlined.
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and
                                  >it has
                                  > > > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
                                  > > a lot
                                  > > > > > of searching.
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > Best Regards
                                  > > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                  > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > > > > From: rdvrey
                                  > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                                  > > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"
                                  ><dan-schaaf@>
                                  > > > > > wrote:
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                                  > > > > Bandmaster.
                                  > > > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > Best Regards
                                  > > > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                  > > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > > > > > From: rdvrey
                                  > > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                                  > > > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > Hi,
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
                                  > > > i am
                                  > > > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > 73,
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                                  > > > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                                  > > > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > 73,
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > Robert
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Hi,
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small
                                  >steps,
                                  > > > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > 73,
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Robert
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >------------------------------------
                                  >
                                  >Yahoo! Groups Links
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                • Neal Campbell
                                  There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml exchange. I just added it
                                  Message 16 of 19 , Jul 4, 2008
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                                    There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows
                                    realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml
                                    exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called
                                    Spot.

                                    Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his
                                    website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and
                                    do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the
                                    whole web page, he is fine with it.

                                    73
                                    Neal k3nc

                                    On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
                                    > Perhaps something could be worked out so that they could have a
                                    > subscription portal, and access would only work if your subscription was
                                    > current.
                                    >
                                    > You might want to suggest it to the people at QRZ.
                                    >
                                    > 73, Pete N4ZR
                                    >
                                    > At 08:43 AM 7/3/2008, rdvrey wrote:
                                    >>Hi Alex,
                                    >>
                                    >>I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold
                                    >>the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information
                                    >>has much bigger value, to bad.
                                    >>
                                    >>73,
                                    >>
                                    >>Robert PE1CWU
                                    >>
                                    >>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:
                                    >> >
                                    >> > Hi Robert,
                                    >> >
                                    >> > I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if
                                    >> > automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He
                                    >> > answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't
                                    >>exactly
                                    >> > fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.
                                    >> >
                                    >> > 73 Alex VE3NEA
                                    >> >
                                    >> >
                                    >> >
                                    >> >
                                    >> >
                                    >> > ----- Original Message -----
                                    >> > From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
                                    >> > To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
                                    >> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM
                                    >> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                    >> >
                                    >> >
                                    >> > Dear Dan
                                    >> >
                                    >> > I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
                                    >> > alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
                                    >> > but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
                                    >> > assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
                                    >> > channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
                                    >> > With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
                                    >> > software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
                                    >> > up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
                                    >> > the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
                                    >> > to date database this way.
                                    >> >
                                    >> > 73,
                                    >> >
                                    >> > Robert
                                    >> >
                                    >> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > Dear Robert
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
                                    >> > the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
                                    >> > HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
                                    >> > amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
                                    >> > Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
                                    >> > for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
                                    >> > worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > If you are interested, my credentials are:
                                    >> > > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
                                    >> > built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
                                    >> > them further their education.
                                    >> > > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
                                    >> > processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
                                    >> > an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
                                    >> > (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
                                    >> > > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
                                    >> > satellite tracking.
                                    >> > > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
                                    >> > the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
                                    >> > college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
                                    >> > to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
                                    >> > engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
                                    >> > accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
                                    >> > selectors on TVs.
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > Best Regards
                                    >> > > Dan Schaaf
                                    >> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                    >> > > ===============================
                                    >> > > NOBSKA
                                    >> > > www.nobska.net
                                    >> > > ===============================
                                    >> > > Cape Cod Instruments
                                    >> > > www.oceanbiz.net
                                    >> > > ===============================
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    >> > > From: rdvrey
                                    >> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                    >> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
                                    >> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You
                                    >>like to
                                    >> > > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
                                    >> > > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
                                    >> > > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
                                    >> > > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
                                    >> > > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
                                    >> > > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
                                    >> > > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
                                    >> > > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a
                                    >>logbook
                                    >> > > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
                                    >> > > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
                                    >> > > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                    >> > wrote:
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
                                    >> > > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and
                                    >>DXPeditions in
                                    >> > > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
                                    >> > > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
                                    >> > > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or
                                    >>trying
                                    >> > > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
                                    >> > > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
                                    >> > > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are
                                    >>tuning for
                                    >> > > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
                                    >> > > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
                                    >> > > other accessories offset from the radio.
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
                                    >> > > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
                                    >> > > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or
                                    >>maybe
                                    >> > > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for
                                    >>you.
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport
                                    >>is the
                                    >> > > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
                                    >> > > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > > Best Regards
                                    >> > > > Dan Schaaf
                                    >> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                    >> > > > ===============================
                                    >> > > > NOBSKA
                                    >> > > > www.nobska.net
                                    >> > > > ===============================
                                    >> > > > Cape Cod Instruments
                                    >> > > > www.oceanbiz.net
                                    >> > > > ===============================
                                    >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    >> > > > From: rdvrey
                                    >> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                    >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
                                    >> > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
                                    >> > mouse its
                                    >> > > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
                                    >> > rig is
                                    >> > > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
                                    >> > the PC
                                    >> > > > too.
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                    >> > > wrote:
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
                                    >> > after I
                                    >> > > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around
                                    >>with a
                                    >> > > > digital adjustment in the software.
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > > Best Regards
                                    >> > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                    >> > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    >> > > > > From: rdvrey
                                    >> > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                    >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                                    >> > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                    >> > > > wrote:
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
                                    >> > > clicking on
                                    >> > > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
                                    >> > frequency and
                                    >> > > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                                    >> > > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
                                    >> > into the
                                    >> > > > > New QSO window of the log.
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already
                                    >>worked, BM
                                    >> > > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
                                    >> > > logged, then
                                    >> > > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
                                    >> > country,
                                    >> > > > > it is shown in black in BM.
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is
                                    >>underlined.
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and
                                    >>it has
                                    >> > > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
                                    >> > a lot
                                    >> > > > > of searching.
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > Best Regards
                                    >> > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                    >> > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    >> > > > > > From: rdvrey
                                    >> > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                    >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                                    >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"
                                    >><dan-schaaf@>
                                    >> > > > > wrote:
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                                    >> > > > Bandmaster.
                                    >> > > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > > Best Regards
                                    >> > > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                    >> > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    >> > > > > > > From: rdvrey
                                    >> > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                    >> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                                    >> > > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > > Hi,
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
                                    >> > > i am
                                    >> > > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > > 73,
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                    >> > > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                                    >> > > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                                    >> > > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > 73,
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > Robert
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                    >> > > > > >
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > > Hi,
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small
                                    >>steps,
                                    >> > > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > > 73,
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > > Robert
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                    >> > > > >
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                    >> > > >
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > >
                                    >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                    >> > >
                                    >> >
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >>------------------------------------
                                    >>
                                    >>Yahoo! Groups Links
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >



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                                    Neal Campbell
                                    Abroham Neal Software
                                    Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
                                    (540) 242 0911
                                    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                                    Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at
                                    www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99
                                    -------------------------------------------------
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                                    -------------------------------------------------
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                                  • Mike Harris
                                    Good day, Would the QRZ lookup feature in Logger32 be in this category? It just pulls up the name and address details, no ads. Regards, Mike VP8NO ... From:
                                    Message 17 of 19 , Jul 4, 2008
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                                      Good day,

                                      Would the QRZ lookup feature in Logger32 be in this category? It just
                                      pulls up the name and address details, no ads.

                                      Regards,

                                      Mike VP8NO

                                      ----- Original Message -----
                                      From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>
                                      To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
                                      Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:12 AM
                                      Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


                                      | There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows
                                      | realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml
                                      | exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called
                                      | Spot.
                                      |
                                      | Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his
                                      | website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and
                                      | do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the
                                      | whole web page, he is fine with it.
                                      |
                                      | 73
                                      | Neal k3nc
                                    • Neal Campbell
                                      Unless you have a subscription with QRZ Online or the author has some special deal with Fred I suspect that there is a problem. Neal ... -- Neal Campbell
                                      Message 18 of 19 , Jul 4, 2008
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                                        Unless you have a subscription with QRZ Online or the author has some
                                        special deal with Fred I suspect that there is a problem.

                                        Neal

                                        On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Mike Harris <mike.harris@...> wrote:
                                        > Good day,
                                        >
                                        > Would the QRZ lookup feature in Logger32 be in this category? It just
                                        > pulls up the name and address details, no ads.
                                        >
                                        > Regards,
                                        >
                                        > Mike VP8NO
                                        >
                                        > ----- Original Message -----
                                        > From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>
                                        > To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
                                        > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:12 AM
                                        > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                        >
                                        > | There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows
                                        > | realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml
                                        > | exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called
                                        > | Spot.
                                        > |
                                        > | Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his
                                        > | website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and
                                        > | do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the
                                        > | whole web page, he is fine with it.
                                        > |
                                        > | 73
                                        > | Neal k3nc
                                        >
                                        >



                                        --
                                        Neal Campbell
                                        Abroham Neal Software
                                        Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
                                        (540) 242 0911
                                        ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                                        Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at
                                        www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99
                                        -------------------------------------------------
                                        For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com
                                        -------------------------------------------------
                                        See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in
                                        action at www.flex-videos.com
                                      • rdvrey
                                        Hi Dan, I actually bought AAlog. 73, Robert ... like to ... logbook ... DXPeditions in ... trying ... tuning for ... maybe ... you. ... is the ... with a ...
                                        Message 19 of 19 , Aug 7, 2008
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                                          Hi Dan,

                                          I actually bought AAlog.

                                          73,

                                          Robert

                                          --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > Dear Dan
                                          >
                                          > I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
                                          > alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
                                          > but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
                                          > assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
                                          > channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
                                          > With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
                                          > software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
                                          > up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
                                          > the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
                                          > to date database this way.
                                          >
                                          > 73,
                                          >
                                          > Robert
                                          >
                                          > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > > Dear Robert
                                          > >
                                          > > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
                                          > the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
                                          > HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
                                          > >
                                          > > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
                                          > amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
                                          > >
                                          > > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
                                          > Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
                                          > for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
                                          > worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
                                          > >
                                          > > If you are interested, my credentials are:
                                          > > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
                                          > built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
                                          > them further their education.
                                          > > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
                                          > processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
                                          > an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
                                          > (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
                                          > > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
                                          > satellite tracking.
                                          > > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
                                          > the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
                                          > college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
                                          > to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
                                          > engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
                                          > accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
                                          > selectors on TVs.
                                          > >
                                          > > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
                                          > >
                                          > > Best Regards
                                          > > Dan Schaaf
                                          > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                          > > ===============================
                                          > > NOBSKA
                                          > > www.nobska.net
                                          > > ===============================
                                          > > Cape Cod Instruments
                                          > > www.oceanbiz.net
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                                          > > ----- Original Message -----
                                          > > From: rdvrey
                                          > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
                                          > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You
                                          like to
                                          > > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
                                          > > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
                                          > > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
                                          > > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
                                          > > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
                                          > > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
                                          > > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
                                          > > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a
                                          logbook
                                          > > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
                                          > > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
                                          > > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
                                          > >
                                          > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                          > wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
                                          > > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and
                                          DXPeditions in
                                          > > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
                                          > > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
                                          > > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or
                                          trying
                                          > > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
                                          > > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
                                          > > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are
                                          tuning for
                                          > > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
                                          > > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
                                          > > other accessories offset from the radio.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
                                          > > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
                                          > > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or
                                          maybe
                                          > > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for
                                          you.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport
                                          is the
                                          > > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
                                          > > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Best Regards
                                          > > > Dan Schaaf
                                          > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
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                                          > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                          > > > From: rdvrey
                                          > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
                                          > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
                                          > mouse its
                                          > > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
                                          > rig is
                                          > > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
                                          > the PC
                                          > > > too.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                          > > wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
                                          > after I
                                          > > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around
                                          with a
                                          > > > digital adjustment in the software.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Best Regards
                                          > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                          > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                          > > > > From: rdvrey
                                          > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
                                          > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
                                          > > > wrote:
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
                                          > > clicking on
                                          > > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
                                          > frequency and
                                          > > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
                                          > > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
                                          > into the
                                          > > > > New QSO window of the log.
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already
                                          worked, BM
                                          > > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
                                          > > logged, then
                                          > > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
                                          > country,
                                          > > > > it is shown in black in BM.
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is
                                          underlined.
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and
                                          it has
                                          > > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
                                          > a lot
                                          > > > > of searching.
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > Best Regards
                                          > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                          > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                          > > > > > From: rdvrey
                                          > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
                                          > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"
                                          <dan-schaaf@>
                                          > > > > wrote:
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
                                          > > > Bandmaster.
                                          > > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Best Regards
                                          > > > > > > Dan Schaaf
                                          > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                          > > > > > > From: rdvrey
                                          > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
                                          > > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Hi,
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
                                          > > i am
                                          > > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > 73,
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
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                                          > > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
                                          > > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
                                          > > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > 73,
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > Robert
                                          > > > > >
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                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Hi,
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small
                                          steps,
                                          > > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > 73,
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Robert
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