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  • Alex, VE3NEA
    Hi Mike, You need a new SSN.dat file for the years beyond 2007. I have just uploaded such file to http://www.dxatlas.com/Download.asp . Pease download it and
    Message 1 of 5 , Jan 1, 2008
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      Hi Mike,

      You need a new SSN.dat file for the years beyond 2007. I have just uploaded
      such file to http://www.dxatlas.com/Download.asp . Pease download it and
      unzip to the HamCap folder.

      73 Alex VE3NEA





      > G'day,
      >
      > The month in Params will not increment beyond Dec 2007.
      >
      > Regards,
      >
      > Mike VP8NO
      >
      >
      >
    • Pete Smith
      Here s a question I ve been meaning to ask for some time. The SSN.DAT file in my Ham CAP folder is the same as Alex s until January 2005, when I installed both
      Message 2 of 5 , Jan 1, 2008
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        Here's a question I've been meaning to ask for some time.

        The SSN.DAT file in my Ham CAP folder is the same as Alex's until January
        2005, when I installed both it and Ionoprobe, and enabled the integration
        to provide data from Ionoprobe to Ham CAP. At that point the values
        diverge slightly until June of 2007, at which point they begin to diverge
        more widely. Here's a sample:

        Mine Alex's

        Dec 2006=11.7 Dec 2006=12.9
        Jan 2007=11.3 Jan 2007=12.4
        Feb 2007=11.1 Feb 2007=12.3
        Mar 2007=11.1 Mar 2007=12.4
        Apr 2007=11.2 Apr 2007=12.5
        May 2007=11.4 May 2007=12.8
        Jun 2007=7.4 Jun 2007=13.2
        Jul 2007=6.4 Jul 2007=13.9
        Aug 2007=5.5 Aug 2007=14.8
        Sep 2007=5.1 Sep 2007=15.7
        Oct 2007=4.9 Oct 2007=16.9
        Nov 2007=4.5 Nov 2007=18.1
        Dec 2007=3.8 Dec 2007=19.6
        Jan 2008=3.2 Jan 2008=18.5
        Feb 2008=2.9
        Mar 2008=3.1
        Apr 2008=3.7

        What is the cause of the sudden divergence in Jun 2007? Will the values
        re-converge as smoothed sunspot numbers are computed, so that, for example,
        next month the Jun 2007 number will be revised? Are they computed by
        Ionoprobe or provided by one of the data broadcasts it receives? I also
        notice that the values supplied by Ionoprobe ("mine") are always slightly
        lower than the ones in the precalculated tables - is that predicted vs
        actual, or is there some other reason?

        I can hardly wait until Oct 2011!

        73, Pete N4ZR

        At 01:44 PM 1/1/2008, Alex, VE3NEA wrote:
        >Hi Mike,
        >
        >You need a new SSN.dat file for the years beyond 2007. I have just uploaded
        >such file to http://www.dxatlas.com/Download.asp . Pease download it and
        >unzip to the HamCap folder.
        >
        >73 Alex VE3NEA
      • Pete Smith
        Sorry, I reversed the captions on the columns, and my Ham CAP SSN s are higher, not lower than his. Here s how they should look: Alex s Mine Dec
        Message 3 of 5 , Jan 1, 2008
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          Sorry, I reversed the captions on the columns, and "my" Ham CAP SSN's are
          higher, not lower than his.

          Here's how they should look:

          Alex's Mine

          Dec 2006=11.7 Dec 2006=12.9
          Jan 2007=11.3 Jan 2007=12.4
          Feb 2007=11.1 Feb 2007=12.3
          Mar 2007=11.1 Mar 2007=12.4
          Apr 2007=11.2 Apr 2007=12.5
          May 2007=11.4 May 2007=12.8
          Jun 2007=7.4 Jun 2007=13.2
          Jul 2007=6.4 Jul 2007=13.9
          Aug 2007=5.5 Aug 2007=14.8
          Sep 2007=5.1 Sep 2007=15.7
          Oct 2007=4.9 Oct 2007=16.9
          Nov 2007=4.5 Nov 2007=18.1
          Dec 2007=3.8 Dec 2007=19.6
          Jan 2008=3.2 Jan 2008=18.5
          Feb 2008=2.9
          Mar 2008=3.1
          Apr 2008=3.7

          73, Pete N4ZR

          At 02:56 PM 1/1/2008, Pete Smith wrote:
          >Here's a question I've been meaning to ask for some time.
          >
          >The SSN.DAT file in my Ham CAP folder is the same as Alex's until January
          >2005, when I installed both it and Ionoprobe, and enabled the integration
          >to provide data from Ionoprobe to Ham CAP. At that point the values
          >diverge slightly until June of 2007, at which point they begin to diverge
          >more widely. Here's a sample:
          >
          >Mine Alex's
          >
          >Dec 2006=11.7 Dec 2006=12.9
          >Jan 2007=11.3 Jan 2007=12.4
          >Feb 2007=11.1 Feb 2007=12.3
          >Mar 2007=11.1 Mar 2007=12.4
          >Apr 2007=11.2 Apr 2007=12.5
          >May 2007=11.4 May 2007=12.8
          >Jun 2007=7.4 Jun 2007=13.2
          >Jul 2007=6.4 Jul 2007=13.9
          >Aug 2007=5.5 Aug 2007=14.8
          >Sep 2007=5.1 Sep 2007=15.7
          >Oct 2007=4.9 Oct 2007=16.9
          >Nov 2007=4.5 Nov 2007=18.1
          >Dec 2007=3.8 Dec 2007=19.6
          >Jan 2008=3.2 Jan 2008=18.5
          >Feb 2008=2.9
          >Mar 2008=3.1
          >Apr 2008=3.7
          >
          >What is the cause of the sudden divergence in Jun 2007? Will the values
          >re-converge as smoothed sunspot numbers are computed, so that, for example,
          >next month the Jun 2007 number will be revised? Are they computed by
          >Ionoprobe or provided by one of the data broadcasts it receives? I also
          >notice that the values supplied by Ionoprobe ("mine") are always slightly
          >lower than the ones in the precalculated tables - is that predicted vs
          >actual, or is there some other reason?
          >
          >I can hardly wait until Oct 2011!
          >
          >73, Pete N4ZR
          >
          >At 01:44 PM 1/1/2008, Alex, VE3NEA wrote:
          > >Hi Mike,
          > >
          > >You need a new SSN.dat file for the years beyond 2007. I have just uploaded
          > >such file to http://www.dxatlas.com/Download.asp . Pease download it and
          > >unzip to the HamCap folder.
          > >
          > >73 Alex VE3NEA
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >Yahoo! Groups Links
          >
          >
          >
        • Alex, VE3NEA
          Hi Pete, The sunspot numbers in the SSN.dat file included with HamCap were taken from the NOAA prediction that was available at the time of program release:
          Message 4 of 5 , Jan 1, 2008
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            Hi Pete,

            The sunspot numbers in the SSN.dat file included with HamCap were taken from
            the NOAA prediction that was available at the time of program release:
            (ftp://ftp.ngdc.noaa.gov/STP/SOLAR_DATA/SUNSPOT_NUMBERS/sunspot.predict)

            The new file that I uploaded today contains data from their new prediction:
            (http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ftpdir/weekly/Predict.txt)

            Obviously, SSN prediction is not an exact science. As can be seen from the
            prediction chart
            (http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ftpdir/weekly/sunspot.gif), NOAA now has two
            hypotheses that predict very different values of SSN.

            As more data becomes available, NOAA updates their predictions and
            eventually replaces them with the observed values.

            73 Alex VE3NEA




            ----- Original Message -----
            > Sorry, I reversed the captions on the columns, and "my" Ham CAP SSN's are
            > higher, not lower than his.
            >
            > Here's how they should look:
            >
            > Alex's Mine
            >
            > Dec 2006=11.7 Dec 2006=12.9
            > Jan 2007=11.3 Jan 2007=12.4
            > Feb 2007=11.1 Feb 2007=12.3
            > Mar 2007=11.1 Mar 2007=12.4
            > Apr 2007=11.2 Apr 2007=12.5
            > May 2007=11.4 May 2007=12.8
            > Jun 2007=7.4 Jun 2007=13.2
            > Jul 2007=6.4 Jul 2007=13.9
            > Aug 2007=5.5 Aug 2007=14.8
            > Sep 2007=5.1 Sep 2007=15.7
            > Oct 2007=4.9 Oct 2007=16.9
            > Nov 2007=4.5 Nov 2007=18.1
            > Dec 2007=3.8 Dec 2007=19.6
            > Jan 2008=3.2 Jan 2008=18.5
            > Feb 2008=2.9
            > Mar 2008=3.1
            > Apr 2008=3.7
            >
            > 73, Pete N4ZR
            >
            > At 02:56 PM 1/1/2008, Pete Smith wrote:
            >>Here's a question I've been meaning to ask for some time.
            >>
            >>The SSN.DAT file in my Ham CAP folder is the same as Alex's until January
            >>2005, when I installed both it and Ionoprobe, and enabled the integration
            >>to provide data from Ionoprobe to Ham CAP. At that point the values
            >>diverge slightly until June of 2007, at which point they begin to diverge
            >>more widely. Here's a sample:
            >>
            >>Mine Alex's
            >>
            >>Dec 2006=11.7 Dec 2006=12.9
            >>Jan 2007=11.3 Jan 2007=12.4
            >>Feb 2007=11.1 Feb 2007=12.3
            >>Mar 2007=11.1 Mar 2007=12.4
            >>Apr 2007=11.2 Apr 2007=12.5
            >>May 2007=11.4 May 2007=12.8
            >>Jun 2007=7.4 Jun 2007=13.2
            >>Jul 2007=6.4 Jul 2007=13.9
            >>Aug 2007=5.5 Aug 2007=14.8
            >>Sep 2007=5.1 Sep 2007=15.7
            >>Oct 2007=4.9 Oct 2007=16.9
            >>Nov 2007=4.5 Nov 2007=18.1
            >>Dec 2007=3.8 Dec 2007=19.6
            >>Jan 2008=3.2 Jan 2008=18.5
            >>Feb 2008=2.9
            >>Mar 2008=3.1
            >>Apr 2008=3.7
            >>
            >>What is the cause of the sudden divergence in Jun 2007? Will the values
            >>re-converge as smoothed sunspot numbers are computed, so that, for
            >>example,
            >>next month the Jun 2007 number will be revised? Are they computed by
            >>Ionoprobe or provided by one of the data broadcasts it receives? I also
            >>notice that the values supplied by Ionoprobe ("mine") are always slightly
            >>lower than the ones in the precalculated tables - is that predicted vs
            >>actual, or is there some other reason?
            >>
            >>I can hardly wait until Oct 2011!
            >>
            >>73, Pete N4ZR
            >>
            >>At 01:44 PM 1/1/2008, Alex, VE3NEA wrote:
            >> >Hi Mike,
            >> >
            >> >You need a new SSN.dat file for the years beyond 2007. I have just
            >> >uploaded
            >> >such file to http://www.dxatlas.com/Download.asp . Pease download it and
            >> >unzip to the HamCap folder.
            >> >
            >> >73 Alex VE3NEA
            >>
            >>
            >>
            >>
            >>Yahoo! Groups Links
            >>
            >>
            >>
            >
            >
          • Pete Smith
            OK, I understand, but what about the sharp step-down in the predicted data beginning in Jun 2007, which doesn t track with the trend shown in data derived from
            Message 5 of 5 , Jan 1, 2008
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              OK, I understand, but what about the sharp step-down in the predicted data
              beginning in Jun 2007, which doesn't track with the trend shown in data
              derived from Ionoprobe? The ISES graph looks much closer to the data in
              your new table, but the last year's data in Ionoprobe look much higher. For
              example, in August 2007, on most days Ionoprobe showed the SSN in the range
              of 11-16, while your table says the average was 5.5.

              73, Pete N4ZR

              At 03:16 PM 1/1/2008, Alex, VE3NEA wrote:
              >Hi Pete,
              >
              >The sunspot numbers in the SSN.dat file included with HamCap were taken from
              >the NOAA prediction that was available at the time of program release:
              >(ftp://ftp.ngdc.noaa.gov/STP/SOLAR_DATA/SUNSPOT_NUMBERS/sunspot.predict)
              >
              >The new file that I uploaded today contains data from their new prediction:
              >(http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ftpdir/weekly/Predict.txt)
              >
              >Obviously, SSN prediction is not an exact science. As can be seen from the
              >prediction chart
              >(http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ftpdir/weekly/sunspot.gif), NOAA now has two
              >hypotheses that predict very different values of SSN.
              >
              >As more data becomes available, NOAA updates their predictions and
              >eventually replaces them with the observed values.
              >
              >73 Alex VE3NEA
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >----- Original Message -----
              > > Sorry, I reversed the captions on the columns, and "my" Ham CAP SSN's are
              > > higher, not lower than his.
              > >
              > > Here's how they should look:
              > >
              > > Alex's Mine
              > >
              > > Dec 2006=11.7 Dec 2006=12.9
              > > Jan 2007=11.3 Jan 2007=12.4
              > > Feb 2007=11.1 Feb 2007=12.3
              > > Mar 2007=11.1 Mar 2007=12.4
              > > Apr 2007=11.2 Apr 2007=12.5
              > > May 2007=11.4 May 2007=12.8
              > > Jun 2007=7.4 Jun 2007=13.2
              > > Jul 2007=6.4 Jul 2007=13.9
              > > Aug 2007=5.5 Aug 2007=14.8
              > > Sep 2007=5.1 Sep 2007=15.7
              > > Oct 2007=4.9 Oct 2007=16.9
              > > Nov 2007=4.5 Nov 2007=18.1
              > > Dec 2007=3.8 Dec 2007=19.6
              > > Jan 2008=3.2 Jan 2008=18.5
              > > Feb 2008=2.9
              > > Mar 2008=3.1
              > > Apr 2008=3.7
              > >
              > > 73, Pete N4ZR
              > >
              > > At 02:56 PM 1/1/2008, Pete Smith wrote:
              > >>Here's a question I've been meaning to ask for some time.
              > >>
              > >>The SSN.DAT file in my Ham CAP folder is the same as Alex's until January
              > >>2005, when I installed both it and Ionoprobe, and enabled the integration
              > >>to provide data from Ionoprobe to Ham CAP. At that point the values
              > >>diverge slightly until June of 2007, at which point they begin to diverge
              > >>more widely. Here's a sample:
              > >>
              > >>Mine Alex's
              > >>
              > >>Dec 2006=11.7 Dec 2006=12.9
              > >>Jan 2007=11.3 Jan 2007=12.4
              > >>Feb 2007=11.1 Feb 2007=12.3
              > >>Mar 2007=11.1 Mar 2007=12.4
              > >>Apr 2007=11.2 Apr 2007=12.5
              > >>May 2007=11.4 May 2007=12.8
              > >>Jun 2007=7.4 Jun 2007=13.2
              > >>Jul 2007=6.4 Jul 2007=13.9
              > >>Aug 2007=5.5 Aug 2007=14.8
              > >>Sep 2007=5.1 Sep 2007=15.7
              > >>Oct 2007=4.9 Oct 2007=16.9
              > >>Nov 2007=4.5 Nov 2007=18.1
              > >>Dec 2007=3.8 Dec 2007=19.6
              > >>Jan 2008=3.2 Jan 2008=18.5
              > >>Feb 2008=2.9
              > >>Mar 2008=3.1
              > >>Apr 2008=3.7
              > >>
              > >>What is the cause of the sudden divergence in Jun 2007? Will the values
              > >>re-converge as smoothed sunspot numbers are computed, so that, for
              > >>example,
              > >>next month the Jun 2007 number will be revised? Are they computed by
              > >>Ionoprobe or provided by one of the data broadcasts it receives? I also
              > >>notice that the values supplied by Ionoprobe ("mine") are always slightly
              > >>lower than the ones in the precalculated tables - is that predicted vs
              > >>actual, or is there some other reason?
              > >>
              > >>I can hardly wait until Oct 2011!
              > >>
              > >>73, Pete N4ZR
              > >>
              > >>At 01:44 PM 1/1/2008, Alex, VE3NEA wrote:
              > >> >Hi Mike,
              > >> >
              > >> >You need a new SSN.dat file for the years beyond 2007. I have just
              > >> >uploaded
              > >> >such file to http://www.dxatlas.com/Download.asp . Pease download it and
              > >> >unzip to the HamCap folder.
              > >> >
              > >> >73 Alex VE3NEA
              > >>
              > >>
              > >>
              > >>
              > >>Yahoo! Groups Links
              > >>
              > >>
              > >>
              > >
              > >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              >
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