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  • Mario
    Hello all, I would like to support a JST-135 TRX with Omnirig. And with this project I have a probleme. Commands from the PC to the TRX are working. Changing
    Message 1 of 16 , Mar 4, 2010
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      Hello all,

      I would like to support a JST-135 TRX with Omnirig. And with this project I have a probleme. Commands from the PC to the TRX are working. Changing the frequency or the modes ar no probleme and they are taking the right effect on the TRX, but the JST-135 doesn't response, he doesn't send correct data to the PC. I don't find a way to clear up the probleme. Did anybody have an idea? Can anybody help?

      I put the ini-file and a part of the Omnirig-logging-file in this mail to make it clearer.

      For your help,

      mny tnx es vy 73 de Mario, DB7MA



      Here comes the JST-135 ini-File. The source was the NRD-535DG ini-file included in Omnirig.

      ;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ; initialize
      ;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      [INIT1]
      ;H1<cr>
      Command=48310D
      ReplyLength=0

      [INIT2]
      ;I1<cr>
      Command=49310D
      ReplyEnd=0D

      [INIT3]
      ;H0<cr> (this command turns off the "Lock"-Modus)
      Command=48300D
      ReplyLength=0
      ReplyEnd=0D

      ;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ; set frequency
      ;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      [pmFreq]
      ;F........<cr>
      Command=47.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.0D
      ReplyEnd=0D
      Value=1|8|vfText|1|0

      [pmFreqA]
      ;F........<cr>
      Command=47.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.0D
      ReplyEnd=0D
      Value=1|8|vfText|1|0

      [pmFreqB]
      ;F........<cr>
      Command=47.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.0D
      ReplyEnd=0D
      Value=1|8|vfText|1|0


      ;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ; set mode
      ;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      [pmDIG_U]
      ; D0<CR>
      Command=44.30.0D
      ReplyEnd=0D

      [pmCW_U]
      ; D1<CR>
      Command=44.31.0D
      ReplyEnd=0D

      [pmSSB_U]
      ; D2<CR>
      Command=44.32.0D
      ReplyEnd=0D

      [pmSSB_L]
      ; D3<CR>
      Command=44.33.0D
      ReplyEnd=0D

      [pmAM]
      ; D4<CR>
      Command=44.34.0D
      ReplyEnd=0D

      [pmFM]
      ; D5<CR>
      Command=44.35.0D
      ReplyEnd=0D

      [pmDIG_L]
      ; D0<CR>
      Command=44.36.0D
      ReplyEnd=0D

      ;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ; read status
      ;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      [STATUS1]
      ; I1<cr>
      Command=49310D
      ReplyLength=14
      ReplyEnd=0D
      Validate=49.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.0D

      Value1=4|8|vfText|1|0|pmFreq
      Value2=4|8|vfText|1|0|pmFreqA
      Value3=4|8|vfText|1|0|pmFreqB

      Flag1=(...0..........)|pmDIG_U
      Flag2=(...1..........)|pmCW_U
      Flag3=(...2..........)|pmSSB_U
      Flag4=(...3..........)|pmSSB_L
      Flag5=(...4..........)|pmAM
      Flag6=(...5..........)|pmFM
      Flag7=(...6..........)|pmDIG_L



      Here comes a part of OmniRig's log-file:

      20:46:02.630 RIG 1 settings: Rig=JST-135|Port=COM1|Baud=1200|Data=8|Parity=None|Stop=1|RTS=High|Dtr=High|Poll=500|Timeout=100
      20:46:02.640 RIG 2 settings: Rig=NONE|Port=COM1|Baud=9600|Data=8|Parity=None|Stop=1|RTS=High|Dtr=High|Poll=500|Timeout=4000
      20:46:02.640 Starting RIG1
      20:46:02.660 RIG1 sending init command: 48310D
      20:46:02.660 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:02.660 RIG1 sending init command: 49310D
      20:46:02.670 RIG1 Status commands already in queue
      20:46:02.680 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:02.790 RIG1 {!}recv timeout. Rx Buffer: ""
      20:46:02.790 RIG1 sending init command: 48300D
      20:46:02.790 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:02.790 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:03.011 RIG1 {!}recv timeout. Rx Buffer: ""
      20:46:03.011 RIG1 sending status command: 49310D
      20:46:03.011 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:03.011 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:03.131 RIG1 reply received: 42310D44320D4730
      20:46:03.131 {!}RIG1 reply validation failed
      20:46:03.201 RIG1 Adding status commands to queue
      20:46:03.201 RIG1 sending status command: 49310D
      20:46:03.201 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:03.201 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:03.201 RIG1 reply received: 0D41300D43303033
      20:46:03.201 {!}RIG1 reply validation failed
      20:46:03.291 {!}RIG1 unexpected data received: 0D46303134313130
      20:46:03.361 {!}RIG1 unexpected data received: 30300D42310D4432
      20:46:03.431 {!}RIG1 unexpected data received: 0D47300D41300D43
      20:46:03.511 {!}RIG1 unexpected data received: 3030330D46303134
      20:46:03.591 {!}RIG1 unexpected data received: 31313030300D
      20:46:03.792 RIG1 Adding status commands to queue
      20:46:03.792 RIG1 sending status command: 49310D
      20:46:03.792 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:03.792 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:03.912 RIG1 reply received: 42310D44320D4730
      20:46:03.912 {!}RIG1 reply validation failed
      20:46:03.982 {!}RIG1 unexpected data received: 0D41300D43303033
      20:46:04.062 {!}RIG1 unexpected data received: 0D46303134313130
      20:46:04.112 {!}RIG1 unexpected data received: 30300D
      20:46:04.292 RIG1 Adding status commands to queue
      20:46:04.292 RIG1 sending status command: 49310D
      20:46:04.292 RIG1 data sent
      20:46:04.292 RIG1 data sent
    • Jerry Flanders
      Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all delays on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the range of 200 - 300 ms
      Message 2 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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        Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all delays
        on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
        range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details screen.

        I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have uninstalled
        and reinstalled Faros - no help.

        Current settings:
        Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no pun
        intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
        extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
        Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
        UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.

        Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 - 300 ms.

        Any ideas?

        Jerry W4UK
      • Jerry Flanders
        Yes - that could be the problem ;-) Or maybe other factors as well. Anybody have any other ideas? Jerry W4UK
        Message 3 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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          Yes - that could be the problem ;-)

          Or maybe other factors as well.

          Anybody have any other ideas?

          Jerry W4UK

          At 05:28 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
          >Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the issue,
          >Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in Chile
          >there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
          >the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I think)
          >of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros data?
          >The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
          >
          >Ref:
          >http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
          >
          >There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
          >
          >Bruce, K2BET
          >-------------------
          >
          >On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
          > >
          > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all delays
          > > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
          > > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details screen.
          > >
          > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have uninstalled
          > > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
          > >
          > > Current settings:
          > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no pun
          > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
          > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
          > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
          > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
          > >
          > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 -
          > > 300 ms.
          > >
          > > Any ideas?
          > >
          > > Jerry W4UK
          > >
          > >
          >
          >
          >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >
          >
          >
          >------------------------------------
          >
          >Yahoo! Groups Links
          >
          >
          >
        • Jerry Flanders
          Strange! My PC clock is correct, as is my time zone. I am about to send this at 3:35 according to the PC. I will have to see what is going on. Thanks for the
          Message 4 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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            Strange! My PC clock is correct, as is my time zone. I am about to
            send this at 3:35 according to the PC. I will have to see what is
            going on. Thanks for the tip.

            Jerry W4UK


            At 06:30 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
            >Your message below is reporting my earlier response as time stamped at
            >"5:28 PM"! What is that all about?
            >
            >Bruce
            >----------------
            >
            >On 3/5/2010 11:52 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
            > >
            > > Yes - that could be the problem ;-)
            > >
            > > Or maybe other factors as well.
            > >
            > > Anybody have any other ideas?
            > >
            > > Jerry W4UK
            > >
            > > At 05:28 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
            > > >Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the issue,
            > > >Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in Chile
            > > >there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
            > > >the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I think)
            > > >of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros data?
            > > >The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
            > > >
            > > >Ref:
            > > >http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
            > > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>
            > > >
            > > >There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
            > > >
            > > >Bruce, K2BET
            > > >-------------------
            > > >
            > > >On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
            > > > >
            > > > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all delays
            > > > > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
            > > > > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details
            > > screen.
            > > > >
            > > > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have uninstalled
            > > > > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
            > > > >
            > > > > Current settings:
            > > > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no pun
            > > > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
            > > > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
            > > > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
            > > > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
            > > > >
            > > > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 -
            > > > > 300 ms.
            > > > >
            > > > > Any ideas?
            > > > >
            > > > > Jerry W4UK
            > > > >
            > > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >------------------------------------
            > > >
            > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > >
            > >
            >
            >
            >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
            >
            >
            >------------------------------------
            >
            >Yahoo! Groups Links
            >
            >
            >
          • Jerry Flanders
            Looks like my own posts are OK. This last post is stamped 6:30 on my screen. My wife tells me I am slow sometimes - maybe that is the problem. Jerry W4UK
            Message 5 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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              Looks like my own posts are OK.

              This last post is stamped 6:30 on my screen.

              My wife tells me I am "slow" sometimes - maybe that is the problem.

              Jerry W4UK

              At 03:35 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
              >Strange! My PC clock is correct, as is my time zone. I am about to
              >send this at 3:35 according to the PC. I will have to see what is
              >going on. Thanks for the tip.
              >
              >Jerry W4UK
              >
              >
              >At 06:30 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
              > >Your message below is reporting my earlier response as time stamped at
              > >"5:28 PM"! What is that all about?
              > >
              > >Bruce
              > >----------------
              > >
              > >On 3/5/2010 11:52 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
              > > >
              > > > Yes - that could be the problem ;-)
              > > >
              > > > Or maybe other factors as well.
              > > >
              > > > Anybody have any other ideas?
              > > >
              > > > Jerry W4UK
              > > >
              > > > At 05:28 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
              > > > >Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the issue,
              > > > >Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in Chile
              > > > >there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
              > > > >the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I think)
              > > > >of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros data?
              > > > >The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
              > > > >
              > > > >Ref:
              > > > >http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
              > > >
              > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>
              > > > >
              > > > >There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
              > > > >
              > > > >Bruce, K2BET
              > > > >-------------------
              > > > >
              > > > >On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
              > > > > >
              > > > > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all delays
              > > > > > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
              > > > > > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details
              > > > screen.
              > > > > >
              > > > > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have uninstalled
              > > > > > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
              > > > > >
              > > > > > Current settings:
              > > > > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no pun
              > > > > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
              > > > > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
              > > > > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
              > > > > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
              > > > > >
              > > > > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 -
              > > > > > 300 ms.
              > > > > >
              > > > > > Any ideas?
              > > > > >
              > > > > > Jerry W4UK
              > > > > >
              > > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >------------------------------------
              > > > >
              > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > >
              > >
              > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >------------------------------------
              > >
              > >Yahoo! Groups Links
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
              >
              >------------------------------------
              >
              >Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              >
            • Ted Roycraft
              Oh, please!!!!! And maybe Venus is going to come out of its orbit and collide with the Earth. Ted, W2ZK ... [Non-text portions of this message have been
              Message 6 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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                Oh, please!!!!! And maybe Venus is going to come out of its orbit and
                collide with the Earth.

                Ted, W2ZK

                On 3/5/2010 5:28 PM, Bruce Tanner wrote:
                >
                > Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the issue,
                > Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in Chile
                > there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
                > the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I think)
                > of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros data?
                > The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
                >
                > Ref:
                > http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>
                >
                > There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
                >
                > Bruce, K2BET
                > -------------------
                >
                > On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                > >
                > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all delays
                > > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
                > > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details screen.
                > >
                > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have uninstalled
                > > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
                > >
                > > Current settings:
                > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no pun
                > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
                > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
                > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
                > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
                > >
                > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 -
                > > 300 ms.
                > >
                > > Any ideas?
                > >
                > > Jerry W4UK
                > >
                > >
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >
                >


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              • Bruce Tanner
                Wow! I don t know if this is of any value or significance to the issue, Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in Chile there
                Message 7 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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                  Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the issue,
                  Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in Chile
                  there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
                  the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I think)
                  of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros data?
                  The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.

                  Ref:
                  http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04

                  There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.

                  Bruce, K2BET
                  -------------------

                  On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                  >
                  > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all delays
                  > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
                  > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details screen.
                  >
                  > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have uninstalled
                  > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
                  >
                  > Current settings:
                  > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no pun
                  > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
                  > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
                  > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
                  > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
                  >
                  > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 -
                  > 300 ms.
                  >
                  > Any ideas?
                  >
                  > Jerry W4UK
                  >
                  >


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                • Dave
                  Hi Ted- It really happened. And has happened. No much, but, yes, a bit of a change. Made the day longer by milliseconds. Faros might not detect it, but other
                  Message 8 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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                    Hi Ted- It really happened. And has happened. No much, but, yes, a bit of a
                    change. Made the day longer by milliseconds.
                    Faros might not detect it, but other instruments did.

                    Dave Mynatt
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                    From: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com]
                    On Behalf Of Ted Roycraft
                    Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 14:04
                    To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: Re: [dxatlas] faros - very long delay time?

                    Oh, please!!!!! And maybe Venus is going to come out of its orbit and
                    collide with the Earth.

                    Ted, W2ZK

                    On 3/5/2010 5:28 PM, Bruce Tanner wrote:
                    >
                    > Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the
                    > issue, Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake
                    > in Chile there scientists have been able to record both a very minor
                    > change in the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up
                    > (I think) of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros
                    data?
                    > The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
                    >
                    > Ref:
                    > http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar
                    > 04
                    > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010ma
                    > r04>
                    >
                    > There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
                    >
                    > Bruce, K2BET
                    > -------------------
                    >
                    > On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                    > >
                    > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all
                    > > delays on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be
                    > > in the range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details
                    screen.
                    > >
                    > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have
                    > > uninstalled and reinstalled Faros - no help.
                    > >
                    > > Current settings:
                    > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no
                    > > pun
                    > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
                    > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
                    > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
                    > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
                    > >
                    > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 -
                    > > 300 ms.
                    > >
                    > > Any ideas?
                    > >
                    > > Jerry W4UK
                    > >
                    > >
                    >
                    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    >
                    >


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                  • Dave
                    Check the mail server. Dave Mynatt /====================================/ http://sciencecenter.no-ip.org SID ID #S-0258 APRS Tier II Server @
                    Message 9 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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                      Check the mail server.


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                      From: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com]
                      On Behalf Of Bruce Tanner
                      Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 16:30
                      To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [dxatlas] faros - very long delay time?

                      Your message below is reporting my earlier response as time stamped at
                      "5:28 PM"! What is that all about?

                      Bruce
                      ----------------

                      On 3/5/2010 11:52 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                      >
                      > Yes - that could be the problem ;-)
                      >
                      > Or maybe other factors as well.
                      >
                      > Anybody have any other ideas?
                      >
                      > Jerry W4UK
                      >
                      > At 05:28 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
                      > >Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the
                      > >issue, Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent
                      > >Earthquake in Chile there scientists have been able to record both a
                      > >very minor change in the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very
                      > >slight speed up (I think) of the period of rotation. Could that be
                      showing up in the Faros data?
                      > >The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
                      > >
                      > >Ref:
                      > >http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010ma
                      > >r04
                      > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010ma
                      > r04>
                      > >
                      > >There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
                      > >
                      > >Bruce, K2BET
                      > >-------------------
                      > >
                      > >On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all
                      > > > delays on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be
                      > > > in the range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of
                      > > > details
                      > screen.
                      > > >
                      > > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have
                      > > > uninstalled and reinstalled Faros - no help.
                      > > >
                      > > > Current settings:
                      > > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no
                      > > > pun
                      > > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
                      > > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
                      > > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
                      > > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
                      > > >
                      > > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200
                      > > > - 300 ms.
                      > > >
                      > > > Any ideas?
                      > > >
                      > > > Jerry W4UK
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >------------------------------------
                      > >
                      > >Yahoo! Groups Links
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      >
                      >


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                    • Bruce Tanner
                      Well, here is another idea, Jerry! I sent out my message, time stamped 2:28 PM. Your response to my message is time stamped 11:52 AM. Now how did you send me a
                      Message 10 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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                        Well, here is another idea, Jerry! I sent out my message, time stamped
                        2:28 PM. Your response to my message is time stamped 11:52 AM. Now how
                        did you send me a message even before you received mine?! Is you battery
                        good? Is you computer clock set correctly or are these just different
                        time zones at work??

                        Bruce, K2BET
                        --------------------

                        On 3/5/2010 11:52 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                        >
                        > Yes - that could be the problem ;-)
                        >
                        > Or maybe other factors as well.
                        >
                        > Anybody have any other ideas?
                        >
                        > Jerry W4UK
                        >
                        > At 05:28 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
                        > >Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the issue,
                        > >Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in Chile
                        > >there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
                        > >the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I think)
                        > >of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros data?
                        > >The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
                        > >
                        > >Ref:
                        > >http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                        > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>
                        > >
                        > >There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
                        > >
                        > >Bruce, K2BET
                        > >-------------------
                        > >
                        > >On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all delays
                        > > > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
                        > > > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details
                        > screen.
                        > > >
                        > > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have uninstalled
                        > > > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
                        > > >
                        > > > Current settings:
                        > > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no pun
                        > > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
                        > > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
                        > > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
                        > > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
                        > > >
                        > > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 -
                        > > > 300 ms.
                        > > >
                        > > > Any ideas?
                        > > >
                        > > > Jerry W4UK
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >------------------------------------
                        > >
                        > >Yahoo! Groups Links
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        >
                        >


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                      • Bruce Tanner
                        Your message below is reporting my earlier response as time stamped at 5:28 PM ! What is that all about? Bruce ... [Non-text portions of this message have
                        Message 11 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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                          Your message below is reporting my earlier response as time stamped at
                          "5:28 PM"! What is that all about?

                          Bruce
                          ----------------

                          On 3/5/2010 11:52 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                          >
                          > Yes - that could be the problem ;-)
                          >
                          > Or maybe other factors as well.
                          >
                          > Anybody have any other ideas?
                          >
                          > Jerry W4UK
                          >
                          > At 05:28 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
                          > >Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the issue,
                          > >Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in Chile
                          > >there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
                          > >the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I think)
                          > >of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros data?
                          > >The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
                          > >
                          > >Ref:
                          > >http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                          > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>
                          > >
                          > >There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
                          > >
                          > >Bruce, K2BET
                          > >-------------------
                          > >
                          > >On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all delays
                          > > > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
                          > > > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details
                          > screen.
                          > > >
                          > > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have uninstalled
                          > > > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
                          > > >
                          > > > Current settings:
                          > > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no pun
                          > > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
                          > > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
                          > > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
                          > > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
                          > > >
                          > > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 -
                          > > > 300 ms.
                          > > >
                          > > > Any ideas?
                          > > >
                          > > > Jerry W4UK
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >------------------------------------
                          > >
                          > >Yahoo! Groups Links
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          >
                          >


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                        • Bruce Tanner
                          The time stamp for your message on my computer is reading 3/5/2010 12:35 PM at the time you indicated you are sending it out saying 3:35 . The time stamp
                          Message 12 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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                            The time stamp for your message on my computer is reading "3/5/2010
                            12:35 PM" at the time you indicated you are sending it out saying
                            "3:35". The time stamp according to your return message is saying I sent
                            my last at "6: 30" PM when it shows in my 'Sent file' as having been
                            time stamped as "3:30 PM"!

                            Pretty strange...
                            Bruce
                            -----------------

                            On 3/5/2010 12:35 PM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                            >
                            > Strange! My PC clock is correct, as is my time zone. I am about to
                            > send this at 3:35 according to the PC. I will have to see what is
                            > going on. Thanks for the tip.
                            >
                            > Jerry W4UK
                            >
                            > At 06:30 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
                            > >Your message below is reporting my earlier response as time stamped at
                            > >"5:28 PM"! What is that all about?
                            > >
                            > >Bruce
                            > >----------------
                            > >
                            > >On 3/5/2010 11:52 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > Yes - that could be the problem ;-)
                            > > >
                            > > > Or maybe other factors as well.
                            > > >
                            > > > Anybody have any other ideas?
                            > > >
                            > > > Jerry W4UK
                            > > >
                            > > > At 05:28 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
                            > > > >Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the
                            > issue,
                            > > > >Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake
                            > in Chile
                            > > > >there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
                            > > > >the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I
                            > think)
                            > > > >of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros
                            > data?
                            > > > >The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
                            > > > >
                            > > > >Ref:
                            > > >
                            > >http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                            > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>
                            > > >
                            > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                            > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>>
                            > > > >
                            > > > >There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
                            > > > >
                            > > > >Bruce, K2BET
                            > > > >-------------------
                            > > > >
                            > > > >On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all
                            > delays
                            > > > > > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
                            > > > > > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details
                            > > > screen.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have
                            > uninstalled
                            > > > > > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Current settings:
                            > > > > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal"
                            > (no pun
                            > > > > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
                            > > > > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
                            > > > > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
                            > > > > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of
                            > 200 -
                            > > > > > 300 ms.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Any ideas?
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Jerry W4UK
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >------------------------------------
                            > > > >
                            > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >------------------------------------
                            > >
                            > >Yahoo! Groups Links
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            >
                            >


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                          • Bruce Tanner
                            PS: The Earth didn t tilt that much!! ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            Message 13 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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                              PS: The Earth didn't tilt that much!!

                              :)

                              On 3/5/2010 3:30 PM, Bruce Tanner wrote:
                              >
                              > Your message below is reporting my earlier response as time stamped at
                              > "5:28 PM"! What is that all about?
                              >
                              > Bruce
                              > ----------------
                              >
                              > On 3/5/2010 11:52 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                              > >
                              > > Yes - that could be the problem ;-)
                              > >
                              > > Or maybe other factors as well.
                              > >
                              > > Anybody have any other ideas?
                              > >
                              > > Jerry W4UK
                              > >
                              > > At 05:28 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
                              > > >Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the issue,
                              > > >Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in
                              > Chile
                              > > >there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
                              > > >the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I think)
                              > > >of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros data?
                              > > >The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
                              > > >
                              > > >Ref:
                              > >
                              > >http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                              > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>
                              >
                              > >
                              > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                              > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>>
                              > > >
                              > > >There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
                              > > >
                              > > >Bruce, K2BET
                              > > >-------------------
                              > > >
                              > > >On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all
                              > delays
                              > > > > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
                              > > > > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details
                              > > screen.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have
                              > uninstalled
                              > > > > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Current settings:
                              > > > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal"
                              > (no pun
                              > > > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
                              > > > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
                              > > > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
                              > > > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 -
                              > > > > 300 ms.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Any ideas?
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Jerry W4UK
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >------------------------------------
                              > > >
                              > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              >
                              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              >
                              >


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                            • Bruce Tanner
                              test message ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              Message 14 of 16 , Mar 5, 2010
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                                test message

                                On 3/5/2010 6:41 PM, Bruce Tanner wrote:
                                >
                                > PS: The Earth didn't tilt that much!!
                                >
                                > :)
                                >
                                > On 3/5/2010 3:30 PM, Bruce Tanner wrote:
                                > >
                                > > Your message below is reporting my earlier response as time stamped at
                                > > "5:28 PM"! What is that all about?
                                > >
                                > > Bruce
                                > > ----------------
                                > >
                                > > On 3/5/2010 11:52 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > Yes - that could be the problem ;-)
                                > > >
                                > > > Or maybe other factors as well.
                                > > >
                                > > > Anybody have any other ideas?
                                > > >
                                > > > Jerry W4UK
                                > > >
                                > > > At 05:28 PM 3/5/2010, you wrote:
                                > > > >Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the
                                > issue,
                                > > > >Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in
                                > > Chile
                                > > > >there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
                                > > > >the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I
                                > think)
                                > > > >of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros
                                > data?
                                > > > >The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
                                > > > >
                                > > > >Ref:
                                > > >
                                > >
                                > >http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                                > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>
                                >
                                > >
                                > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                                > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>>
                                >
                                > >
                                > > >
                                > >
                                > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                                > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>
                                >
                                > >
                                > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                                > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>>>
                                > > > >
                                > > > >There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
                                > > > >
                                > > > >Bruce, K2BET
                                > > > >-------------------
                                > > > >
                                > > > >On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all
                                > > delays
                                > > > > > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
                                > > > > > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details
                                > > > screen.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have
                                > > uninstalled
                                > > > > > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Current settings:
                                > > > > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal"
                                > > (no pun
                                > > > > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
                                > > > > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
                                > > > > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
                                > > > > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of
                                > 200 -
                                > > > > > 300 ms.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Any ideas?
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Jerry W4UK
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >------------------------------------
                                > > > >
                                > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > >
                                > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                > >
                                > >
                                >
                                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                >
                                >


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                              • Dave Baxter
                                Hi... When you did a re-install, did you clean out (after backing up) all the old data? Only ask, as what you see in the delay statistics, may be from the
                                Message 15 of 16 , Mar 8, 2010
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                                  Hi...

                                  When you did a re-install, did you clean out (after backing up) all the
                                  old data?

                                  Only ask, as what you see in the delay statistics, may be from the prior
                                  install, if you just installed over the old one.

                                  It's always worth clearing that data in the app, then letting the system
                                  gather new data for a day or so, before deciding what's going on. You
                                  may find a new peak in the data up in the 100's of mS as a result.

                                  If so....

                                  Check your NTP time source(s). It's not unknown for ISP's to do silly
                                  things, like decide to take a NTP server off the public access list, or
                                  to move the service to another system that varies so much as to make it
                                  useless for apps'a like Faros.

                                  Faros is also "a little unkind" to NTP servers too I've been told, due
                                  to the poll rate it uses, from prolonged discussions on a NTP newsgroup
                                  with people who are "in the know" re these things.
                                  (comp.protocols.time.ntp)

                                  I've ended up (for several reasons) creating my own local (on my LAN)
                                  NTP server, locked to GPS time, just like the beacons themselves. Not
                                  a trivial task as it turned out, but I started doing that based on this
                                  page. http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/NTP-on-Windows-serial-port.html

                                  There's a lot to read, and even then, it's not exactly a "how to" as to
                                  do it. But I can help there if needed. It does work, and works very
                                  well indeed, even running on Windows! More than good enough for Faros.

                                  Even without the GPS locking, a local NTP server on your LAN (even
                                  running in the background on an existing box) will service Faros just
                                  fine, and only sync periodicaly with external NTP sources, if you still
                                  have a good one or three to use.

                                  However... If your ISP or WAN provider is messing about, and the ping
                                  times to the servers vary significantly throught the day (as mine were
                                  doing) then you *need* the local GPS locked type of NTP source.

                                  Most ISP's sadly will be happy if their NTP servers are within 1S of
                                  each other, let alone within mS (or better) of UTC ticks. Contact them
                                  to complain about jitter and huge offsets, and if you find someone who
                                  doesnt think you're talking about FTP, they still wont have a clue what
                                  you're on about.

                                  Hope you find out what and why, and it's not NTP issues. Resolvable if
                                  that is the case, but it's a bit of a chore. Help available if needed.

                                  Regards.

                                  Dave G0WBX.
                                • Bruce Tanner
                                  Jerry, an interesting article I just noticed that might pertain to this issue. A project worth following, I think. If NASA is concerned why not FAROS!?
                                  Message 16 of 16 , Mar 11, 2010
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                                    Jerry, an interesting article I just noticed that might pertain to this
                                    issue. A project worth following, I think. If NASA is concerned why not
                                    FAROS!?

                                    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2010/11mar_figureaxis.htm

                                    Bruce

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                                    On 3/5/2010 5:28 PM, Bruce Tanner wrote:
                                    >
                                    > Wow! I don't know if this is of any value or significance to the issue,
                                    > Jerry, but I have heard that an effect of the recent Earthquake in Chile
                                    > there scientists have been able to record both a very minor change in
                                    > the tilt of the Earth on her axis and a very slight speed up (I think)
                                    > of the period of rotation. Could that be showing up in the Faros data?
                                    > The Chilean earthquake was about two weeks ago now, Feb. 27.
                                    >
                                    > Ref:
                                    > http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04
                                    > <http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/03/local/la-me-lost-time4-2010mar04>
                                    >
                                    > There are other reports if you Google 'earthquake rotation axis'.
                                    >
                                    > Bruce, K2BET
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                                    >
                                    > On 3/5/2010 8:02 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > Faros was running FB until a couple weeks ago, with almost all delays
                                    > > on the short path line as expected. Now delays appear to be in the
                                    > > range of 200 - 300 ms and all delay points are at top of details screen.
                                    > >
                                    > > I can't find any setting that appears wrong to me. I have uninstalled
                                    > > and reinstalled Faros - no help.
                                    > >
                                    > > Current settings:
                                    > > Signal delay red vertical line is about 17 ms with a "normal" (no pun
                                    > > intended) distribution of green lines centering at about 15 ms,
                                    > > extending from about 0 to about 46 ms.
                                    > > Delay correction is set to 17 ms.
                                    > > UTC Clock info std error 0.99 ms, max error 18.6 ms.
                                    > >
                                    > > Log file shows even high SNR stations are recording delays of 200 -
                                    > > 300 ms.
                                    > >
                                    > > Any ideas?
                                    > >
                                    > > Jerry W4UK
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
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