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  • g7kse
    ... works really well. My problem is the HTML page to display the info. If we can experiment a bit this should be really simple... a command line FTP open
    Message 1 of 19 , Nov 2, 2008
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      --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
      >
      > Alex, I use a program from Stanford that uses command-line FTP and it
      works really well. My problem is the HTML page to display the info. If
      we can experiment a bit this should be really simple... a command line
      FTP 'open' and 'mput' would do it I think. Can we try this together?
      I'll send you the Stanford BAT file and let's see if we can make it work
      to display the data or image. The image would be simple I think.
      >
      > Dave
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: g7kse
      > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:03 PM
      > Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros
      >
      >
      > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" alshovk@ wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi Dave,
      > >
      > > I read the postings on the forum but rarely reply to them, I
      prefer to
      > > provide support via email.
      > >
      > > Since there is a wide choice of ftp upload programs, it makes no
      > sense to
      > > develop a built-in uploader in Faros, this would be a waste of
      time.
      > >
      > > 73 Alex VE3NEA
      > >
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > >
      > > > How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a
      direct
      > email,
      > > > or does he monitor the group emails?
      > > >
      > > > Dave
      > > > KA0SWT
      > >
      >
      > I didn't write the code myself and I'm sure it's fairly free to use
      so
      > if you want to email me at g7kse@... I'll send you back the
      > code as I use it.
      >
      > I had a look at your page and I think it might be a little narrow at
      > the moment to fit the images on without shrinking them. i suppose it
      > depends on the padding. I have no experience with B2 but as long as
      > you can call up different templates for different pages then you can
      > have the 'beacon' page different from the rest, mine has a small
      > amount of station info and the rest is just the script which is
      > handled by the template rather than the content if that makes sense.
      >
      > The trick would be to write your bat file to upload when the gif is
      > saved and so mirror the history folder on both your Faro machine and
      > the web server. Personally the existing apps make me a little lazy
      so
      > I went straight for one of those.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------\
      ------
      >
      >
      >
      > No virus found in this incoming message.
      > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
      > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1760 - Release Date:
      11/1/2008 9:36 AM
      >
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >

      Dave,

      Below is the script, if you want to email the ftp utility then I'll have
      a go with my set up. The bit you'll be interested is the <script> part
      in bold. The rest just calls up other parts of the site. I have an
      almost identical template but just change the location / file name for
      the path gifs based on the location on the web server.

      Let me know if you need any more

      <?php
      /*
      Template Name: Beacons
      */
      ?><?php get_header();?>



      <div id="content" class="widecolumn">

      <!-- primary content start -->
      <?php if (have_posts()) : ?>

      <?php while (have_posts()) : the_post(); ?>
      <div class="post" id="post-<?php the_ID(); ?>">
      <div class="header">
      <div class="date"><em class="user"><?php
      the_author() ?></em>

      <br/><em class="postdate"><?php the_time('M jS, Y') ?></em></div>
      <h3><a href="<?php the_permalink() ?>"
      rel="bookmark" title="

      Permanent Link to <?php the_title(); ?>"><?php the_title(); ?></a></h3>
      </div>
      <div class="entry">
      <?php the_content(); ?>
      <?php wp_link_pages(); ?>
      <?php $sub_pages = wp_list_pages(
      'sort_column=menu_order&depth=1&title_li=&echo=0&child_of=' .

      $id );?>
      <?php if ($sub_pages <> "" ){?>
      <h3>Sub Pages List</h3>
      <ul>
      <?php echo $sub_pages; ?>
      </ul>
      <?php }?>
      </div>
      <?php endwhile; ?>
      <p align="center"><?php posts_nav_link(' - ','« Prev','Next
      »') ?></p>
      <?php else : ?>

      <h2 class="center">Not Found</h2>
      <p class="center">Sorry, but you are looking for something that
      isn't here.</p>
      <?php endif; ?>
      <script>
      var d = new Date();
      var m = d.getUTCMonth()+1;
      var day = d.getUTCDate();
      var yr = d.getUTCFullYear();
      var sname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/S-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
      : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
      var pname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/P-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
      : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
      document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Today");
      document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
      src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
      alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
      src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
      height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
      document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
      var y = new Date(); y.setDate(y.getDate()-1);
      var my = y.getUTCMonth()+1;
      var dy = y.getUTCDate();
      var yy = y.getUTCFullYear();
      sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
      my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
      pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
      my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
      document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Yesterday");
      document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
      src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
      alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
      src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
      height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
      document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
      var f = new Date(); f.setDate(f.getDate()-2);
      var my = f.getUTCMonth()+1;
      var dy = f.getUTCDate();
      var yy = f.getUTCFullYear();
      sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
      my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
      pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
      my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
      document.write("Signal to noise ratio "+dy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my :
      my)+"-"+yy+"<br>");
      document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
      src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
      alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
      src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
      height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
      document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
      </script>
      <!-- primary content end -->




      [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    • D. Mynatt
      Hi, Here s the failure I get: Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_header() in C: xampp htdocs blogs phpstuff-01.php on line 7 Any ideas? Dave ...
      Message 2 of 19 , Nov 2, 2008
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        Hi,

        Here's the failure I get: Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_header() in C:\xampp\htdocs\blogs\phpstuff-01.php on line 7

        Any ideas?

        Dave





        ----- Original Message -----
        From: g7kse
        To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:37 PM
        Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros



        --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
        >
        > Alex, I use a program from Stanford that uses command-line FTP and it
        works really well. My problem is the HTML page to display the info. If
        we can experiment a bit this should be really simple... a command line
        FTP 'open' and 'mput' would do it I think. Can we try this together?
        I'll send you the Stanford BAT file and let's see if we can make it work
        to display the data or image. The image would be simple I think.
        >
        > Dave
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: g7kse
        > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:03 PM
        > Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros
        >
        >
        > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" alshovk@ wrote:
        > >
        > > Hi Dave,
        > >
        > > I read the postings on the forum but rarely reply to them, I
        prefer to
        > > provide support via email.
        > >
        > > Since there is a wide choice of ftp upload programs, it makes no
        > sense to
        > > develop a built-in uploader in Faros, this would be a waste of
        time.
        > >
        > > 73 Alex VE3NEA
        > >
        > >
        > > ----- Original Message -----
        > >
        > > > How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a
        direct
        > email,
        > > > or does he monitor the group emails?
        > > >
        > > > Dave
        > > > KA0SWT
        > >
        >
        > I didn't write the code myself and I'm sure it's fairly free to use
        so
        > if you want to email me at g7kse@... I'll send you back the
        > code as I use it.
        >
        > I had a look at your page and I think it might be a little narrow at
        > the moment to fit the images on without shrinking them. i suppose it
        > depends on the padding. I have no experience with B2 but as long as
        > you can call up different templates for different pages then you can
        > have the 'beacon' page different from the rest, mine has a small
        > amount of station info and the rest is just the script which is
        > handled by the template rather than the content if that makes sense.
        >
        > The trick would be to write your bat file to upload when the gif is
        > saved and so mirror the history folder on both your Faro machine and
        > the web server. Personally the existing apps make me a little lazy
        so
        > I went straight for one of those.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        ----------------------------------------------------------\
        ------
        >
        >
        >
        > No virus found in this incoming message.
        > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
        > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1760 - Release Date:
        11/1/2008 9:36 AM
        >
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >

        Dave,

        Below is the script, if you want to email the ftp utility then I'll have
        a go with my set up. The bit you'll be interested is the <script> part
        in bold. The rest just calls up other parts of the site. I have an
        almost identical template but just change the location / file name for
        the path gifs based on the location on the web server.

        Let me know if you need any more

        <?php
        /*
        Template Name: Beacons
        */
        ?><?php get_header();?>

        <div id="content" class="widecolumn">

        <!-- primary content start -->
        <?php if (have_posts()) : ?>

        <?php while (have_posts()) : the_post(); ?>
        <div class="post" id="post-<?php the_ID(); ?>">
        <div class="header">
        <div class="date"><em class="user"><?php
        the_author() ?></em>

        <br/><em class="postdate"><?php the_time('M jS, Y') ?></em></div>
        <h3><a href="<?php the_permalink() ?>"
        rel="bookmark" title="

        Permanent Link to <?php the_title(); ?>"><?php the_title(); ?></a></h3>
        </div>
        <div class="entry">
        <?php the_content(); ?>
        <?php wp_link_pages(); ?>
        <?php $sub_pages = wp_list_pages(
        'sort_column=menu_order&depth=1&title_li=&echo=0&child_of=' .

        $id );?>
        <?php if ($sub_pages <> "" ){?>
        <h3>Sub Pages List</h3>
        <ul>
        <?php echo $sub_pages; ?>
        </ul>
        <?php }?>
        </div>
        <?php endwhile; ?>
        <p align="center"><?php posts_nav_link(' - ','« Prev','Next
        »') ?></p>
        <?php else : ?>

        <h2 class="center">Not Found</h2>
        <p class="center">Sorry, but you are looking for something that
        isn't here.</p>
        <?php endif; ?>
        <script>
        var d = new Date();
        var m = d.getUTCMonth()+1;
        var day = d.getUTCDate();
        var yr = d.getUTCFullYear();
        var sname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/S-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
        : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
        var pname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/P-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
        : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
        document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Today");
        document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
        src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
        alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
        src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
        height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
        document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
        var y = new Date(); y.setDate(y.getDate()-1);
        var my = y.getUTCMonth()+1;
        var dy = y.getUTCDate();
        var yy = y.getUTCFullYear();
        sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
        my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
        pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
        my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
        document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Yesterday");
        document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
        src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
        alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
        src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
        height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
        document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
        var f = new Date(); f.setDate(f.getDate()-2);
        var my = f.getUTCMonth()+1;
        var dy = f.getUTCDate();
        var yy = f.getUTCFullYear();
        sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
        my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
        pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
        my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
        document.write("Signal to noise ratio "+dy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my :
        my)+"-"+yy+"<br>");
        document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
        src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
        alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
        src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
        height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
        document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
        </script>
        <!-- primary content end -->

        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      • D. Mynatt
        Hi G7KSE, I mis-read your email and now that I read it correctly, I will send the command-line script ASAP Monday. I think we have a plan. The key will be to
        Message 3 of 19 , Nov 2, 2008
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          Hi G7KSE,

          I mis-read your email and now that I read it correctly, I will send the command-line script ASAP Monday. I think we have a plan. The key will be to rename the saved file from Faros (View>Settings>General) to latest.gif and have the web page pull that file name and display it as a new image every two or so hours.

          I asked Alex to consider writing a small code snippet that will allow a Faros user to select saving one or both of the GIFs as a consistent file name, ie, latest.gif.

          It'll work if we can save each new gif as a consistent name.

          Dave Mynatt
          Program Director
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          APRS Tier II Server @ pueblo.aprs2.net:14501
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          DM78qd // KA0SWT






          ----- Original Message -----
          From: g7kse
          To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:37 PM
          Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros



          --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
          >
          > Alex, I use a program from Stanford that uses command-line FTP and it
          works really well. My problem is the HTML page to display the info. If
          we can experiment a bit this should be really simple... a command line
          FTP 'open' and 'mput' would do it I think. Can we try this together?
          I'll send you the Stanford BAT file and let's see if we can make it work
          to display the data or image. The image would be simple I think.
          >
          > Dave
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: g7kse
          > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:03 PM
          > Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros
          >
          >
          > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" alshovk@ wrote:
          > >
          > > Hi Dave,
          > >
          > > I read the postings on the forum but rarely reply to them, I
          prefer to
          > > provide support via email.
          > >
          > > Since there is a wide choice of ftp upload programs, it makes no
          > sense to
          > > develop a built-in uploader in Faros, this would be a waste of
          time.
          > >
          > > 73 Alex VE3NEA
          > >
          > >
          > > ----- Original Message -----
          > >
          > > > How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a
          direct
          > email,
          > > > or does he monitor the group emails?
          > > >
          > > > Dave
          > > > KA0SWT
          > >
          >
          > I didn't write the code myself and I'm sure it's fairly free to use
          so
          > if you want to email me at g7kse@... I'll send you back the
          > code as I use it.
          >
          > I had a look at your page and I think it might be a little narrow at
          > the moment to fit the images on without shrinking them. i suppose it
          > depends on the padding. I have no experience with B2 but as long as
          > you can call up different templates for different pages then you can
          > have the 'beacon' page different from the rest, mine has a small
          > amount of station info and the rest is just the script which is
          > handled by the template rather than the content if that makes sense.
          >
          > The trick would be to write your bat file to upload when the gif is
          > saved and so mirror the history folder on both your Faro machine and
          > the web server. Personally the existing apps make me a little lazy
          so
          > I went straight for one of those.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          ----------------------------------------------------------\
          ------
          >
          >
          >
          > No virus found in this incoming message.
          > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
          > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1760 - Release Date:
          11/1/2008 9:36 AM
          >
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >

          Dave,

          Below is the script, if you want to email the ftp utility then I'll have
          a go with my set up. The bit you'll be interested is the <script> part
          in bold. The rest just calls up other parts of the site. I have an
          almost identical template but just change the location / file name for
          the path gifs based on the location on the web server.

          Let me know if you need any more

          <?php
          /*
          Template Name: Beacons
          */
          ?><?php get_header();?>

          <div id="content" class="widecolumn">

          <!-- primary content start -->
          <?php if (have_posts()) : ?>

          <?php while (have_posts()) : the_post(); ?>
          <div class="post" id="post-<?php the_ID(); ?>">
          <div class="header">
          <div class="date"><em class="user"><?php
          the_author() ?></em>

          <br/><em class="postdate"><?php the_time('M jS, Y') ?></em></div>
          <h3><a href="<?php the_permalink() ?>"
          rel="bookmark" title="

          Permanent Link to <?php the_title(); ?>"><?php the_title(); ?></a></h3>
          </div>
          <div class="entry">
          <?php the_content(); ?>
          <?php wp_link_pages(); ?>
          <?php $sub_pages = wp_list_pages(
          'sort_column=menu_order&depth=1&title_li=&echo=0&child_of=' .

          $id );?>
          <?php if ($sub_pages <> "" ){?>
          <h3>Sub Pages List</h3>
          <ul>
          <?php echo $sub_pages; ?>
          </ul>
          <?php }?>
          </div>
          <?php endwhile; ?>
          <p align="center"><?php posts_nav_link(' - ','« Prev','Next
          »') ?></p>
          <?php else : ?>

          <h2 class="center">Not Found</h2>
          <p class="center">Sorry, but you are looking for something that
          isn't here.</p>
          <?php endif; ?>
          <script>
          var d = new Date();
          var m = d.getUTCMonth()+1;
          var day = d.getUTCDate();
          var yr = d.getUTCFullYear();
          var sname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/S-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
          : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
          var pname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/P-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
          : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
          document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Today");
          document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
          src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
          alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
          src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
          height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
          document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
          var y = new Date(); y.setDate(y.getDate()-1);
          var my = y.getUTCMonth()+1;
          var dy = y.getUTCDate();
          var yy = y.getUTCFullYear();
          sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
          my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
          pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
          my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
          document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Yesterday");
          document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
          src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
          alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
          src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
          height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
          document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
          var f = new Date(); f.setDate(f.getDate()-2);
          var my = f.getUTCMonth()+1;
          var dy = f.getUTCDate();
          var yy = f.getUTCFullYear();
          sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
          my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
          pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
          my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
          document.write("Signal to noise ratio "+dy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my :
          my)+"-"+yy+"<br>");
          document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
          src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
          alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
          src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
          height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
          document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
          </script>
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        • Dave Baxter
          Hi... At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload isn t an issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex (G7KSE) I had lots of
          Message 4 of 19 , Nov 3, 2008
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            Hi...

            At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload isn't an
            issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex (G7KSE) I had
            lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will auto
            disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and them, 15 minutes
            was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police complaining
            about something.

            I've looked at AutoFTP, it would appear to do the job, but I've not yet
            used it in anger.

            For web page creation, I started with the example liked on the IBP
            website by VE3SUN at http://faros.ve3sun.com/

            I then used Nvu and later Kompozer (a derivative of Nvu) to alter and
            maintain the web page as needed
            http://www.nvu.com

            Both work well on Windows, and seem to create compact and reliable web
            code. Very easy to use too.

            For me, I have the webserver program on one PC, and all the data (web
            page etc) on a read only shared folder on the machine that runs Faros.
            Proof of the pudding? See..
            http://g8kbv.homeip.net:8008/

            The use of port 8008 is a simple but pressingly effective measure to
            keep 99% of the malicious script kiddies away, as I don't keep an open
            port 80 to the world, also my router/gateway is configured to detect and
            block any DoS behaviour to specific ports, ok so you are still taken off
            air for a while, but it limits the mayhem on the LAN side... I have
            had to block access to most of China though! As I was getting malicious
            "Post" commands (googling on what was trying to be Posted!) and not
            wanting to find out the hard way about what they were trying to do (that
            the server does not support) I blocked that web IP subnet at the router.
            Sad, but it had to be done.

            There are many such free personal web server programs around, but take
            care to get one without any "other undocumented functionality" It's a
            bit of a chore checking for stuff like that, but for example if it
            installs weird services on your PC, and/or creates odd open ports etc,
            it's probably best uninstalled and deleted.

            I also run the webserver in what's called a "Sandbox". Effectively a
            "Virtual Machine" so if somthing nasty does happen to it, it's only that
            VM that get's nuked, needing just that restarting for the "system" to be
            clean again. I use the well known SandboxIE program for that, very
            good, if a little tricky to get setup to run a server that needs some
            external resources.

            If you also include a text file in the same folder as the main web page
            called "robots.txt" with this as it's contents, just two lines...

            User-agent: *
            Disallow: /

            That will tell any web crawling robots (the well behaved ones that is)
            not to search any deeper than your main page. The bad robots will
            probably ignore it, but it's a moot point.

            Alex VE3NEA if you ask him, can provide you with a .ico file, that is
            the blue beacon image, that you can put again in the same folder as
            "favicon.ico" That will let the browser assign that to the URL in the
            address bar, and any a favourite or bookmark if they save your URL as
            such. (You can also use it to customise any desktop shortcut you have
            for Faros, or related tools.)

            If you do host your own web server (or any other web based service
            "open" to the world) you really do need to fully understand web/network
            security, and how to manage things like DoS (Denial of Service) floods
            etc. There is lots of stuff on the web about all that, but ultimately,
            it's a steep learning curve! Much of what I learnt, came from
            www.grc.com and their "Security Now" netcasts. A most useful site to
            browse, especially if you have any hard disk troubles......

            Above all, if you run a server of any type with public access, keep an
            eye on it for any "Odd" behaviour, and if you see any, investigate it
            and do what's needed there and then.

            Hope something here helps someone.

            Cheers.

            Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
          • g7kse
            ... Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I m still with Wordpress, VE3SUN s pages are really useful if you are build pages up from scratch and I
            Message 5 of 19 , Nov 4, 2008
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              --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
              >
              > Hi...
              >
              > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload isn't an
              > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex (G7KSE) I had
              > lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will auto
              > disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and them, 15 minutes
              > was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police complaining
              > about something.
              >
              > I've looked at AutoFTP, it would appear to do the job, but I've not yet
              > used it in anger.
              >
              > For web page creation, I started with the example liked on the IBP
              > website by VE3SUN at http://faros.ve3sun.com/
              >
              > I then used Nvu and later Kompozer (a derivative of Nvu) to alter and
              > maintain the web page as needed
              > http://www.nvu.com
              >
              > Both work well on Windows, and seem to create compact and reliable web
              > code. Very easy to use too.
              >
              > For me, I have the webserver program on one PC, and all the data (web
              > page etc) on a read only shared folder on the machine that runs Faros.
              > Proof of the pudding? See..
              > http://g8kbv.homeip.net:8008/
              >
              > The use of port 8008 is a simple but pressingly effective measure to
              > keep 99% of the malicious script kiddies away, as I don't keep an open
              > port 80 to the world, also my router/gateway is configured to detect and
              > block any DoS behaviour to specific ports, ok so you are still taken off
              > air for a while, but it limits the mayhem on the LAN side... I have
              > had to block access to most of China though! As I was getting malicious
              > "Post" commands (googling on what was trying to be Posted!) and not
              > wanting to find out the hard way about what they were trying to do (that
              > the server does not support) I blocked that web IP subnet at the router.
              > Sad, but it had to be done.
              >
              > There are many such free personal web server programs around, but take
              > care to get one without any "other undocumented functionality" It's a
              > bit of a chore checking for stuff like that, but for example if it
              > installs weird services on your PC, and/or creates odd open ports etc,
              > it's probably best uninstalled and deleted.
              >
              > I also run the webserver in what's called a "Sandbox". Effectively a
              > "Virtual Machine" so if somthing nasty does happen to it, it's only that
              > VM that get's nuked, needing just that restarting for the "system" to be
              > clean again. I use the well known SandboxIE program for that, very
              > good, if a little tricky to get setup to run a server that needs some
              > external resources.
              >
              > If you also include a text file in the same folder as the main web page
              > called "robots.txt" with this as it's contents, just two lines...
              >
              > User-agent: *
              > Disallow: /
              >
              > That will tell any web crawling robots (the well behaved ones that is)
              > not to search any deeper than your main page. The bad robots will
              > probably ignore it, but it's a moot point.
              >
              > Alex VE3NEA if you ask him, can provide you with a .ico file, that is
              > the blue beacon image, that you can put again in the same folder as
              > "favicon.ico" That will let the browser assign that to the URL in the
              > address bar, and any a favourite or bookmark if they save your URL as
              > such. (You can also use it to customise any desktop shortcut you have
              > for Faros, or related tools.)
              >
              > If you do host your own web server (or any other web based service
              > "open" to the world) you really do need to fully understand web/network
              > security, and how to manage things like DoS (Denial of Service) floods
              > etc. There is lots of stuff on the web about all that, but ultimately,
              > it's a steep learning curve! Much of what I learnt, came from
              > www.grc.com and their "Security Now" netcasts. A most useful site to
              > browse, especially if you have any hard disk troubles......
              >
              > Above all, if you run a server of any type with public access, keep an
              > eye on it for any "Odd" behaviour, and if you see any, investigate it
              > and do what's needed there and then.
              >
              > Hope something here helps someone.
              >
              > Cheers.
              >
              > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
              >


              Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still with
              Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are build pages up
              from scratch and I totally agree with you about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy
              to use and well supported. As for the self host. I tried setting
              something up locally and I have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps
              I need to do some more learning before trying again. Really good to
              know that there is an expert looking on though.


              Dave (KA0SWT)
              That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress site. I
              see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps I should do the
              same and see if it'll work for me. What theme are you usung and I'll
              try and copy that on my machine.

              Alex
            • D. Mynatt
              (TO POST) I think I m going to try the setup suggested by Alex on his web site. It s a bit much compared with just making a some-named gif as an export from
              Message 6 of 19 , Nov 4, 2008
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                (TO POST)

                I think I'm going to try the setup suggested by Alex on his web site. It's a bit much compared with just making a some-named gif as an export from faros, but Faros is really nice and Alex has done a masterful job on it. I'll try the FTP application. I think I had it working, but need to try again to be sure. I need to get my antenna fixed; I broke off a bolt and the top of the discone is now free-floating. Ugh!

                Maybe all this activity will challenge a really talented person to write a neat add-on that does this... an 'all-in-one' thing that works no matter what image from a base application needs to be copied to and overwrite a file on a server.

                Thanks guys,

                Dave/KA0SWT






                ----- Original Message -----
                From: g7kse
                To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:36 AM
                Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros


                --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
                >
                > Hi...
                >
                > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload isn't an
                > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex (G7KSE) I had
                > lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will auto
                > disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and them, 15 minutes
                > was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police complaining
                > about something.
                >
                > I've looked at AutoFTP, it would appear to do the job, but I've not yet
                > used it in anger.
                >
                > For web page creation, I started with the example liked on the IBP
                > website by VE3SUN at http://faros.ve3sun.com/
                >
                > I then used Nvu and later Kompozer (a derivative of Nvu) to alter and
                > maintain the web page as needed
                > http://www.nvu.com
                >
                > Both work well on Windows, and seem to create compact and reliable web
                > code. Very easy to use too.
                >
                > For me, I have the webserver program on one PC, and all the data (web
                > page etc) on a read only shared folder on the machine that runs Faros.
                > Proof of the pudding? See..
                > http://g8kbv.homeip.net:8008/
                >
                > The use of port 8008 is a simple but pressingly effective measure to
                > keep 99% of the malicious script kiddies away, as I don't keep an open
                > port 80 to the world, also my router/gateway is configured to detect and
                > block any DoS behaviour to specific ports, ok so you are still taken off
                > air for a while, but it limits the mayhem on the LAN side... I have
                > had to block access to most of China though! As I was getting malicious
                > "Post" commands (googling on what was trying to be Posted!) and not
                > wanting to find out the hard way about what they were trying to do (that
                > the server does not support) I blocked that web IP subnet at the router.
                > Sad, but it had to be done.
                >
                > There are many such free personal web server programs around, but take
                > care to get one without any "other undocumented functionality" It's a
                > bit of a chore checking for stuff like that, but for example if it
                > installs weird services on your PC, and/or creates odd open ports etc,
                > it's probably best uninstalled and deleted.
                >
                > I also run the webserver in what's called a "Sandbox". Effectively a
                > "Virtual Machine" so if somthing nasty does happen to it, it's only that
                > VM that get's nuked, needing just that restarting for the "system" to be
                > clean again. I use the well known SandboxIE program for that, very
                > good, if a little tricky to get setup to run a server that needs some
                > external resources.
                >
                > If you also include a text file in the same folder as the main web page
                > called "robots.txt" with this as it's contents, just two lines...
                >
                > User-agent: *
                > Disallow: /
                >
                > That will tell any web crawling robots (the well behaved ones that is)
                > not to search any deeper than your main page. The bad robots will
                > probably ignore it, but it's a moot point.
                >
                > Alex VE3NEA if you ask him, can provide you with a .ico file, that is
                > the blue beacon image, that you can put again in the same folder as
                > "favicon.ico" That will let the browser assign that to the URL in the
                > address bar, and any a favourite or bookmark if they save your URL as
                > such. (You can also use it to customise any desktop shortcut you have
                > for Faros, or related tools.)
                >
                > If you do host your own web server (or any other web based service
                > "open" to the world) you really do need to fully understand web/network
                > security, and how to manage things like DoS (Denial of Service) floods
                > etc. There is lots of stuff on the web about all that, but ultimately,
                > it's a steep learning curve! Much of what I learnt, came from
                > www.grc.com and their "Security Now" netcasts. A most useful site to
                > browse, especially if you have any hard disk troubles......
                >
                > Above all, if you run a server of any type with public access, keep an
                > eye on it for any "Odd" behaviour, and if you see any, investigate it
                > and do what's needed there and then.
                >
                > Hope something here helps someone.
                >
                > Cheers.
                >
                > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                >

                Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still with
                Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are build pages up
                from scratch and I totally agree with you about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy
                to use and well supported. As for the self host. I tried setting
                something up locally and I have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps
                I need to do some more learning before trying again. Really good to
                know that there is an expert looking on though.

                Dave (KA0SWT)
                That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress site. I
                see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps I should do the
                same and see if it'll work for me. What theme are you usung and I'll
                try and copy that on my machine.

                Alex





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              • Dave Baxter
                Alex (G7KSE) If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and I ll walk you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server program,
                Message 7 of 19 , Nov 5, 2008
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                  Alex (G7KSE)

                  If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and I'll walk
                  you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server program,
                  but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and stay
                  secure.

                  With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the web page
                  server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external NTP
                  source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
                  (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how I've
                  tried!)

                  73

                  Dave G0WBX.


                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                  > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                  > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
                  >
                  > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Hi...
                  > >
                  > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
                  > isn't an
                  > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
                  > (G7KSE) I
                  > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will
                  > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
                  > them, 15
                  > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police
                  > > complaining about something.
                  > >
                  > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                  > >
                  >
                  >
                  > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
                  > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
                  > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
                  > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
                  > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
                  > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
                  > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
                  > there is an expert looking on though.
                  >
                  >
                  > Dave (KA0SWT)
                  > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
                  > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
                  > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
                  > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
                  >
                  > Alex
                • Dave
                  Hi Alex, The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another FTP program that does that but
                  Message 8 of 19 , Nov 7, 2008
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                    Hi Alex, The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another FTP program that does that but won't upload on file change. What other FTP clients are available other that SCR?

                    Thanks a million,

                    Dave


                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: Dave Baxter
                    To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
                    Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros


                    Alex (G7KSE)

                    If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and I'll walk
                    you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server program,
                    but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and stay
                    secure.

                    With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the web page
                    server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external NTP
                    source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
                    (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how I've
                    tried!)

                    73

                    Dave G0WBX.

                    > -----Original Message-----
                    > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                    > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                    > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
                    >
                    > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > Hi...
                    > >
                    > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
                    > isn't an
                    > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
                    > (G7KSE) I
                    > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will
                    > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
                    > them, 15
                    > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police
                    > > complaining about something.
                    > >
                    > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
                    > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
                    > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
                    > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
                    > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
                    > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
                    > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
                    > there is an expert looking on though.
                    >
                    >
                    > Dave (KA0SWT)
                    > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
                    > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
                    > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
                    > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
                    >
                    > Alex





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                  • g7kse
                    Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client. WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn t keep alive AutoFTP from Primasoft - As
                    Message 9 of 19 , Nov 10, 2008
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                      Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client.

                      WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn't keep alive
                      AutoFTP from Primasoft - As WinSCP
                      AUTOftp Manager - Worked but being married to a Scot a free solution
                      was what I was after.
                      CoreFTP - Done on a schedule rather than as a syncro service. Worked
                      well.
                      FTP Synchronizer - Expensive but worked
                      Carbon FTP - Never got off the ground as I found the Glen Delahoy
                      AutoFTP

                      I struggled so hard to make the keep alive part working that I ended
                      up giving up and ended up using a macro recorder and scheduler in XP
                      to run it. The ftp part was the biggest headache and still isn't
                      failsafe on my system.

                      I'm planning on a pc upgrade so I'm hoping that if I switch to a
                      better motherboard then it'll not give out the errors so regularly

                      --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Hi Alex, The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect
                      on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another FTP
                      program that does that but won't upload on file change. What other
                      FTP clients are available other that SCR?
                      >
                      > Thanks a million,
                      >
                      > Dave
                      >
                      >
                      > ----- Original Message -----
                      > From: Dave Baxter
                      > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                      > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
                      > Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros
                      >
                      >
                      > Alex (G7KSE)
                      >
                      > If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and
                      I'll walk
                      > you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server
                      program,
                      > but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and
                      stay
                      > secure.
                      >
                      > With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the
                      web page
                      > server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external
                      NTP
                      > source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
                      > (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how
                      I've
                      > tried!)
                      >
                      > 73
                      >
                      > Dave G0WBX.
                      >
                      > > -----Original Message-----
                      > > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                      > > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                      > > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
                      > >
                      > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@>
                      wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > Hi...
                      > > >
                      > > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
                      > > isn't an
                      > > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
                      > > (G7KSE) I
                      > > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most
                      servers will
                      > > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
                      > > them, 15
                      > > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP
                      police
                      > > > complaining about something.
                      > > >
                      > > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
                      > > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
                      > > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
                      > > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
                      > > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
                      > > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
                      > > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
                      > > there is an expert looking on though.
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Dave (KA0SWT)
                      > > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
                      > > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
                      > > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
                      > > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
                      > >
                      > > Alex
                      >
                      >
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                    • Dave Baxter
                      Hi Alex (G7KSE) Yes, that is much the same experience I had. The problem is not with the auto uploaders, but with the FTP servers at the website, they will
                      Message 10 of 19 , Nov 11, 2008
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                        Hi Alex (G7KSE)

                        Yes, that is much the same experience I had. The problem is not with
                        the auto uploaders, but with the FTP servers at the website, they will
                        timeout and drop the link if there is no traffic for a (short) period of
                        time... As we have no control of that end, we are "stuffed" as we'd
                        say.

                        If there is an automatic FTP uploaded, that will itself close the link
                        when the job is done, and then make a new connection when the next batch
                        is ready, that is what we need, even on a file by file basis if need be.

                        I have the tools to make such a program, but I don't sadly have the
                        spare time for that (or many other things I'd like to do, not just
                        radio, PC's etc)

                        There are two conflicting requirements. To close the link when the
                        batch work is done, and to detect when exactly that work is done. None
                        of the automatic uploaders I've tried can it seems do either of them.

                        I did some experiments with WinSCP and a FTP server of my own, and if
                        you configure the server NOT to time out the clients connection, then
                        WinSCP, AutoFTP etc work just fine all the time. BUT...

                        If the connection is lost, (a network "burp" etc) then the server will
                        not close the connection, and eventualy will exhaust it's network
                        sockets resources, so you can see why just about all FTP servers will
                        timeout a client at some point if there is no traffic. That and most
                        clients inability to cleanly detect a failed link, and remake it, is the
                        problem.

                        The other problem, telling when the batch job is done, in some ways is
                        easy, but if it's just sitting there monitoring the file system for
                        changes, it has no way of telling that things are "done" for now, just
                        because no changes have been made for a while. Unless you found one, I
                        have not found one that will itself drop the link to the server cleanly,
                        after a period of no local changes.

                        Scheduled uploaders. Is probably the overall best way to go at the
                        moment. They should connect to the server, shovel the data, and
                        disconnect, nothing else. The problem is to get the schedule timing
                        right so the website does not fall too far behind Faros, and conversely
                        not to create too many unneeded updates. I guess if Faros is set to
                        update the data files every quater hour say, then the sheduler could run
                        every 7 1/2 minutes. Just an example, I have Faros updating the GIF's
                        every hour here, so a sheduled upload every half hour, or triggered at
                        specific minutes past the hour perhaps. Then you need to synchronise
                        the PC's clock too, more fun and games!...


                        73.

                        Dave G0WBX



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                        Yeah, as if I'm ever going to click on that! I broke the link just to
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                        Ignore it folks! No matter how well protected you may think you are, if
                        you cause your system to down load a malicious web page, you can still
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                        > 2a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                        > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                        > Date: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:49 am ((PST))
                        >
                        > Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client.
                        >
                        > WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn't keep
                        > alive AutoFTP from Primasoft - As WinSCP AUTOftp Manager -
                        > Worked but being married to a Scot a free solution was what I
                        > was after.
                        > CoreFTP - Done on a schedule rather than as a syncro service.
                        > Worked well.
                        > FTP Synchronizer - Expensive but worked
                        > Carbon FTP - Never got off the ground as I found the Glen
                        > Delahoy AutoFTP
                        >
                        > I struggled so hard to make the keep alive part working that
                        > I ended up giving up and ended up using a macro recorder and
                        > scheduler in XP to run it. The ftp part was the biggest
                        > headache and still isn't failsafe on my system.
                        >
                        > I'm planning on a pc upgrade so I'm hoping that if I switch
                        > to a better motherboard then it'll not give out the errors so
                        > regularly
                        >
                        > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > Hi Alex, The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect
                        > on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another
                        > FTP program that does that but won't upload on file change.
                        > What other FTP clients are available other that SCR?
                        > >
                        > > Thanks a million,
                        > >
                        > > Dave
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > From: Dave Baxter
                        > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                        > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
                        > > Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Alex (G7KSE)
                        > >
                        > > If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and
                        > I'll walk
                        > > you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server
                        > program,
                        > > but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and
                        > stay
                        > > secure.
                        > >
                        > > With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the
                        > web page
                        > > server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external
                        > NTP
                        > > source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
                        > > (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how
                        > I've
                        > > tried!)
                        > >
                        > > 73
                        > >
                        > > Dave G0WBX.
                        > >
                        > > > -----Original Message-----
                        > > > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                        > > > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                        > > > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
                        > > >
                        > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@>
                        > wrote:
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Hi...
                        > > > >
                        > > > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
                        > > > isn't an
                        > > > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
                        > > > (G7KSE) I
                        > > > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most
                        > servers will
                        > > > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
                        > > > them, 15
                        > > > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP
                        > police
                        > > > > complaining about something.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
                        > > > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
                        > > > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
                        > > > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
                        > > > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
                        > > > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
                        > > > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
                        > > > there is an expert looking on though.
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Dave (KA0SWT)
                        > > > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
                        > > > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
                        > > > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
                        > > > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
                        > > >
                        > > > Alex
                      • g7kse
                        Dave, We seem to have had very similar experiences with FTP and the uploads. Although I think I can safely say that you know much more about why it does what
                        Message 11 of 19 , Nov 12, 2008
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                          Dave,

                          We seem to have had very similar experiences with FTP and the
                          uploads. Although I think I can safely say that you know much more
                          about why it does what it does.

                          My flavour of the month or rather last few months has been this one
                          (http://www.glenn.delahoy.com/software/index.shtml)

                          I have set it up with two options. One to do a detect and syncronise
                          and a 'do it now' option. From my limited knowledge it seems to
                          detect a change. I set it wait 30 seconds after that to make sure
                          there was no conflicts with the very old laptop I use. Then start
                          the FTP connection. Do the synchronising and then cut the connection.

                          Most of the time it works quite well be every now and again it falls
                          over and I suspect the PC is at fault as it is very slow.

                          Just about all the other software needed more manual attention than
                          was worth it. This seems to need the least amount of effort on my
                          set up.

                          I am looking at making a large change to the set up by building a HF
                          lite softrock SDR and using a pico-itx m'board to run the station in
                          place of the aging laptop and ic-703 and I'm hoping that this will
                          solve some of the pc issues around the aging IT. It will take a
                          while to build the SDR as I've never had any experience in SMD's and
                          I almost lost one on the carpet yesterday morning!

                          After that I think I might take you up on the setting up a web
                          server of my own thing, just as long as I can get wordpress to run
                          on it.

                          Alex

                          --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Hi Alex (G7KSE)
                          >
                          > Yes, that is much the same experience I had. The problem is not
                          with
                          > the auto uploaders, but with the FTP servers at the website, they
                          will
                          > timeout and drop the link if there is no traffic for a (short)
                          period of
                          > time... As we have no control of that end, we are "stuffed" as
                          we'd
                          > say.
                          >
                          > If there is an automatic FTP uploaded, that will itself close the
                          link
                          > when the job is done, and then make a new connection when the next
                          batch
                          > is ready, that is what we need, even on a file by file basis if
                          need be.
                          >
                          > I have the tools to make such a program, but I don't sadly have the
                          > spare time for that (or many other things I'd like to do, not just
                          > radio, PC's etc)
                          >
                          > There are two conflicting requirements. To close the link when
                          the
                          > batch work is done, and to detect when exactly that work is
                          done. None
                          > of the automatic uploaders I've tried can it seems do either of
                          them.
                          >
                          > I did some experiments with WinSCP and a FTP server of my own, and
                          if
                          > you configure the server NOT to time out the clients connection,
                          then
                          > WinSCP, AutoFTP etc work just fine all the time. BUT...
                          >
                          > If the connection is lost, (a network "burp" etc) then the server
                          will
                          > not close the connection, and eventualy will exhaust it's network
                          > sockets resources, so you can see why just about all FTP servers
                          will
                          > timeout a client at some point if there is no traffic. That and
                          most
                          > clients inability to cleanly detect a failed link, and remake it,
                          is the
                          > problem.
                          >
                          > The other problem, telling when the batch job is done, in some
                          ways is
                          > easy, but if it's just sitting there monitoring the file system for
                          > changes, it has no way of telling that things are "done" for now,
                          just
                          > because no changes have been made for a while. Unless you found
                          one, I
                          > have not found one that will itself drop the link to the server
                          cleanly,
                          > after a period of no local changes.
                          >
                          > Scheduled uploaders. Is probably the overall best way to go at the
                          > moment. They should connect to the server, shovel the data, and
                          > disconnect, nothing else. The problem is to get the schedule
                          timing
                          > right so the website does not fall too far behind Faros, and
                          conversely
                          > not to create too many unneeded updates. I guess if Faros is set
                          to
                          > update the data files every quater hour say, then the sheduler
                          could run
                          > every 7 1/2 minutes. Just an example, I have Faros updating the
                          GIF's
                          > every hour here, so a sheduled upload every half hour, or
                          triggered at
                          > specific minutes past the hour perhaps. Then you need to
                          synchronise
                          > the PC's clock too, more fun and games!...
                          >
                          >
                          > 73.
                          >
                          > Dave G0WBX
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > > Messages
                          > > __________
                          > > 1. You have received an important Message!
                          > > Posted by: "hysfbce" hysfbce@... hysfbce
                          > > Date: Sun Nov 9, 2008 5:59 pm ((PST))
                          > >
                          > > You have received an important Message! Check it here:
                          > > ht tp://byd yvfu.zo omshare.com/fi les/ke nny.htm
                          > >
                          > Yeah, as if I'm ever going to click on that! I broke the link
                          just to
                          > make sure...
                          > Ignore it folks! No matter how well protected you may think you
                          are, if
                          > you cause your system to down load a malicious web page, you can
                          still
                          > get a nasty suprise, and not always imediatly!
                          > I'm not saying that page is know to be bad, but this is how the
                          bad guys
                          > work...
                          > >
                          > > Messages in this topic (1)
                          > > __________
                          > > 2a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                          > > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                          > > Date: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:49 am ((PST))
                          > >
                          > > Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client.
                          > >
                          > > WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn't keep
                          > > alive AutoFTP from Primasoft - As WinSCP AUTOftp Manager -
                          > > Worked but being married to a Scot a free solution was what I
                          > > was after.
                          > > CoreFTP - Done on a schedule rather than as a syncro service.
                          > > Worked well.
                          > > FTP Synchronizer - Expensive but worked
                          > > Carbon FTP - Never got off the ground as I found the Glen
                          > > Delahoy AutoFTP
                          > >
                          > > I struggled so hard to make the keep alive part working that
                          > > I ended up giving up and ended up using a macro recorder and
                          > > scheduler in XP to run it. The ftp part was the biggest
                          > > headache and still isn't failsafe on my system.
                          > >
                          > > I'm planning on a pc upgrade so I'm hoping that if I switch
                          > > to a better motherboard then it'll not give out the errors so
                          > > regularly
                          > >
                          > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > Hi Alex, The only problem I had was the time out and
                          disconnect
                          > > on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another
                          > > FTP program that does that but won't upload on file change.
                          > > What other FTP clients are available other that SCR?
                          > > >
                          > > > Thanks a million,
                          > > >
                          > > > Dave
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > From: Dave Baxter
                          > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
                          > > > Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Alex (G7KSE)
                          > > >
                          > > > If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know,
                          and
                          > > I'll walk
                          > > > you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web
                          server
                          > > program,
                          > > > but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work,
                          and
                          > > stay
                          > > > secure.
                          > > >
                          > > > With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and
                          the
                          > > web page
                          > > > server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an
                          external
                          > > NTP
                          > > > source, or you could use it when out portable away from
                          the 'net.
                          > > > (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh
                          how
                          > > I've
                          > > > tried!)
                          > > >
                          > > > 73
                          > > >
                          > > > Dave G0WBX.
                          > > >
                          > > > > -----Original Message-----
                          > > > > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                          > > > > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@ g7kse
                          > > > > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
                          > > > >
                          > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@>
                          > > wrote:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Hi...
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP
                          upload
                          > > > > isn't an
                          > > > > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like
                          Alex
                          > > > > (G7KSE) I
                          > > > > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most
                          > > servers will
                          > > > > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you
                          and
                          > > > > them, 15
                          > > > > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP
                          > > police
                          > > > > > complaining about something.
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                          > > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
                          > > > > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you
                          are
                          > > > > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
                          > > > > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As
                          for
                          > > > > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
                          > > > > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do
                          some
                          > > > > more learning before trying again. Really good to know
                          that
                          > > > > there is an expert looking on though.
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Dave (KA0SWT)
                          > > > > That stuff I posted was the full template from my
                          wordpress
                          > > > > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP.
                          Perhaps
                          > > > > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What
                          theme
                          > > > > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Alex
                          >
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