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  • D. Mynatt
    How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a direct email, or does he monitor the group emails? Dave KA0SWT ... From: vk3apg To:
    Message 1 of 19 , Oct 31, 2008
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      How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a direct email, or does he monitor the group emails?

      Dave
      KA0SWT






      ----- Original Message -----
      From: vk3apg
      To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:13 PM
      Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros


      what a great idea Dave!!!

      it would be great to have this feature not understanding what might be
      involved to program for it, hopefully it wont be too hard for Alex to
      maybe incorporate in a future update.

      Paul - VK3APG

      --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "davemynatt" <dave@...> wrote:
      >
      > Is there an add-on app that takes the data from Faros and either
      > creates or uploads a web page automatically?
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > Dave/KA0SWT
      >





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    • Alex, VE3NEA
      Hi Dave, I read the postings on the forum but rarely reply to them, I prefer to provide support via email. Since there is a wide choice of ftp upload programs,
      Message 2 of 19 , Nov 1, 2008
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        Hi Dave,

        I read the postings on the forum but rarely reply to them, I prefer to
        provide support via email.

        Since there is a wide choice of ftp upload programs, it makes no sense to
        develop a built-in uploader in Faros, this would be a waste of time.

        73 Alex VE3NEA


        ----- Original Message -----

        > How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a direct email,
        > or does he monitor the group emails?
        >
        > Dave
        > KA0SWT
      • g7kse
        ... sense to ... email, ... I didn t write the code myself and I m sure it s fairly free to use so if you want to email me at g7kse@yahoo.co.uk I ll send you
        Message 3 of 19 , Nov 1, 2008
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          --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:
          >
          > Hi Dave,
          >
          > I read the postings on the forum but rarely reply to them, I prefer to
          > provide support via email.
          >
          > Since there is a wide choice of ftp upload programs, it makes no
          sense to
          > develop a built-in uploader in Faros, this would be a waste of time.
          >
          > 73 Alex VE3NEA
          >
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          >
          > > How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a direct
          email,
          > > or does he monitor the group emails?
          > >
          > > Dave
          > > KA0SWT
          >


          I didn't write the code myself and I'm sure it's fairly free to use so
          if you want to email me at g7kse@... I'll send you back the
          code as I use it.

          I had a look at your page and I think it might be a little narrow at
          the moment to fit the images on without shrinking them. i suppose it
          depends on the padding. I have no experience with B2 but as long as
          you can call up different templates for different pages then you can
          have the 'beacon' page different from the rest, mine has a small
          amount of station info and the rest is just the script which is
          handled by the template rather than the content if that makes sense.

          The trick would be to write your bat file to upload when the gif is
          saved and so mirror the history folder on both your Faro machine and
          the web server. Personally the existing apps make me a little lazy so
          I went straight for one of those.
        • Dave
          Alex, I use a program from Stanford that uses command-line FTP and it works really well. My problem is the HTML page to display the info. If we can experiment
          Message 4 of 19 , Nov 1, 2008
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            Alex, I use a program from Stanford that uses command-line FTP and it works really well. My problem is the HTML page to display the info. If we can experiment a bit this should be really simple... a command line FTP 'open' and 'mput' would do it I think. Can we try this together? I'll send you the Stanford BAT file and let's see if we can make it work to display the data or image. The image would be simple I think.

            Dave





            ----- Original Message -----
            From: g7kse
            To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:03 PM
            Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros


            --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:
            >
            > Hi Dave,
            >
            > I read the postings on the forum but rarely reply to them, I prefer to
            > provide support via email.
            >
            > Since there is a wide choice of ftp upload programs, it makes no
            sense to
            > develop a built-in uploader in Faros, this would be a waste of time.
            >
            > 73 Alex VE3NEA
            >
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            >
            > > How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a direct
            email,
            > > or does he monitor the group emails?
            > >
            > > Dave
            > > KA0SWT
            >

            I didn't write the code myself and I'm sure it's fairly free to use so
            if you want to email me at g7kse@... I'll send you back the
            code as I use it.

            I had a look at your page and I think it might be a little narrow at
            the moment to fit the images on without shrinking them. i suppose it
            depends on the padding. I have no experience with B2 but as long as
            you can call up different templates for different pages then you can
            have the 'beacon' page different from the rest, mine has a small
            amount of station info and the rest is just the script which is
            handled by the template rather than the content if that makes sense.

            The trick would be to write your bat file to upload when the gif is
            saved and so mirror the history folder on both your Faro machine and
            the web server. Personally the existing apps make me a little lazy so
            I went straight for one of those.






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          • g7kse
            ... works really well. My problem is the HTML page to display the info. If we can experiment a bit this should be really simple... a command line FTP open
            Message 5 of 19 , Nov 2, 2008
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              --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
              >
              > Alex, I use a program from Stanford that uses command-line FTP and it
              works really well. My problem is the HTML page to display the info. If
              we can experiment a bit this should be really simple... a command line
              FTP 'open' and 'mput' would do it I think. Can we try this together?
              I'll send you the Stanford BAT file and let's see if we can make it work
              to display the data or image. The image would be simple I think.
              >
              > Dave
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: g7kse
              > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:03 PM
              > Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros
              >
              >
              > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" alshovk@ wrote:
              > >
              > > Hi Dave,
              > >
              > > I read the postings on the forum but rarely reply to them, I
              prefer to
              > > provide support via email.
              > >
              > > Since there is a wide choice of ftp upload programs, it makes no
              > sense to
              > > develop a built-in uploader in Faros, this would be a waste of
              time.
              > >
              > > 73 Alex VE3NEA
              > >
              > >
              > > ----- Original Message -----
              > >
              > > > How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a
              direct
              > email,
              > > > or does he monitor the group emails?
              > > >
              > > > Dave
              > > > KA0SWT
              > >
              >
              > I didn't write the code myself and I'm sure it's fairly free to use
              so
              > if you want to email me at g7kse@... I'll send you back the
              > code as I use it.
              >
              > I had a look at your page and I think it might be a little narrow at
              > the moment to fit the images on without shrinking them. i suppose it
              > depends on the padding. I have no experience with B2 but as long as
              > you can call up different templates for different pages then you can
              > have the 'beacon' page different from the rest, mine has a small
              > amount of station info and the rest is just the script which is
              > handled by the template rather than the content if that makes sense.
              >
              > The trick would be to write your bat file to upload when the gif is
              > saved and so mirror the history folder on both your Faro machine and
              > the web server. Personally the existing apps make me a little lazy
              so
              > I went straight for one of those.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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              >
              >
              > No virus found in this incoming message.
              > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
              > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1760 - Release Date:
              11/1/2008 9:36 AM
              >
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >

              Dave,

              Below is the script, if you want to email the ftp utility then I'll have
              a go with my set up. The bit you'll be interested is the <script> part
              in bold. The rest just calls up other parts of the site. I have an
              almost identical template but just change the location / file name for
              the path gifs based on the location on the web server.

              Let me know if you need any more

              <?php
              /*
              Template Name: Beacons
              */
              ?><?php get_header();?>



              <div id="content" class="widecolumn">

              <!-- primary content start -->
              <?php if (have_posts()) : ?>

              <?php while (have_posts()) : the_post(); ?>
              <div class="post" id="post-<?php the_ID(); ?>">
              <div class="header">
              <div class="date"><em class="user"><?php
              the_author() ?></em>

              <br/><em class="postdate"><?php the_time('M jS, Y') ?></em></div>
              <h3><a href="<?php the_permalink() ?>"
              rel="bookmark" title="

              Permanent Link to <?php the_title(); ?>"><?php the_title(); ?></a></h3>
              </div>
              <div class="entry">
              <?php the_content(); ?>
              <?php wp_link_pages(); ?>
              <?php $sub_pages = wp_list_pages(
              'sort_column=menu_order&depth=1&title_li=&echo=0&child_of=' .

              $id );?>
              <?php if ($sub_pages <> "" ){?>
              <h3>Sub Pages List</h3>
              <ul>
              <?php echo $sub_pages; ?>
              </ul>
              <?php }?>
              </div>
              <?php endwhile; ?>
              <p align="center"><?php posts_nav_link(' - ','« Prev','Next
              »') ?></p>
              <?php else : ?>

              <h2 class="center">Not Found</h2>
              <p class="center">Sorry, but you are looking for something that
              isn't here.</p>
              <?php endif; ?>
              <script>
              var d = new Date();
              var m = d.getUTCMonth()+1;
              var day = d.getUTCDate();
              var yr = d.getUTCFullYear();
              var sname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/S-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
              : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
              var pname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/P-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
              : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
              document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Today");
              document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
              src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
              alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
              src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
              height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
              document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
              var y = new Date(); y.setDate(y.getDate()-1);
              var my = y.getUTCMonth()+1;
              var dy = y.getUTCDate();
              var yy = y.getUTCFullYear();
              sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
              my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
              pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
              my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
              document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Yesterday");
              document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
              src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
              alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
              src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
              height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
              document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
              var f = new Date(); f.setDate(f.getDate()-2);
              var my = f.getUTCMonth()+1;
              var dy = f.getUTCDate();
              var yy = f.getUTCFullYear();
              sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
              my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
              pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
              my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
              document.write("Signal to noise ratio "+dy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my :
              my)+"-"+yy+"<br>");
              document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
              src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
              alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
              src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
              height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
              document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
              </script>
              <!-- primary content end -->




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            • D. Mynatt
              Hi, Here s the failure I get: Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_header() in C: xampp htdocs blogs phpstuff-01.php on line 7 Any ideas? Dave ...
              Message 6 of 19 , Nov 2, 2008
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                Hi,

                Here's the failure I get: Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_header() in C:\xampp\htdocs\blogs\phpstuff-01.php on line 7

                Any ideas?

                Dave





                ----- Original Message -----
                From: g7kse
                To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:37 PM
                Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros



                --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
                >
                > Alex, I use a program from Stanford that uses command-line FTP and it
                works really well. My problem is the HTML page to display the info. If
                we can experiment a bit this should be really simple... a command line
                FTP 'open' and 'mput' would do it I think. Can we try this together?
                I'll send you the Stanford BAT file and let's see if we can make it work
                to display the data or image. The image would be simple I think.
                >
                > Dave
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: g7kse
                > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:03 PM
                > Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros
                >
                >
                > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" alshovk@ wrote:
                > >
                > > Hi Dave,
                > >
                > > I read the postings on the forum but rarely reply to them, I
                prefer to
                > > provide support via email.
                > >
                > > Since there is a wide choice of ftp upload programs, it makes no
                > sense to
                > > develop a built-in uploader in Faros, this would be a waste of
                time.
                > >
                > > 73 Alex VE3NEA
                > >
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > >
                > > > How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a
                direct
                > email,
                > > > or does he monitor the group emails?
                > > >
                > > > Dave
                > > > KA0SWT
                > >
                >
                > I didn't write the code myself and I'm sure it's fairly free to use
                so
                > if you want to email me at g7kse@... I'll send you back the
                > code as I use it.
                >
                > I had a look at your page and I think it might be a little narrow at
                > the moment to fit the images on without shrinking them. i suppose it
                > depends on the padding. I have no experience with B2 but as long as
                > you can call up different templates for different pages then you can
                > have the 'beacon' page different from the rest, mine has a small
                > amount of station info and the rest is just the script which is
                > handled by the template rather than the content if that makes sense.
                >
                > The trick would be to write your bat file to upload when the gif is
                > saved and so mirror the history folder on both your Faro machine and
                > the web server. Personally the existing apps make me a little lazy
                so
                > I went straight for one of those.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                ----------------------------------------------------------\
                ------
                >
                >
                >
                > No virus found in this incoming message.
                > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
                > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1760 - Release Date:
                11/1/2008 9:36 AM
                >
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >

                Dave,

                Below is the script, if you want to email the ftp utility then I'll have
                a go with my set up. The bit you'll be interested is the <script> part
                in bold. The rest just calls up other parts of the site. I have an
                almost identical template but just change the location / file name for
                the path gifs based on the location on the web server.

                Let me know if you need any more

                <?php
                /*
                Template Name: Beacons
                */
                ?><?php get_header();?>

                <div id="content" class="widecolumn">

                <!-- primary content start -->
                <?php if (have_posts()) : ?>

                <?php while (have_posts()) : the_post(); ?>
                <div class="post" id="post-<?php the_ID(); ?>">
                <div class="header">
                <div class="date"><em class="user"><?php
                the_author() ?></em>

                <br/><em class="postdate"><?php the_time('M jS, Y') ?></em></div>
                <h3><a href="<?php the_permalink() ?>"
                rel="bookmark" title="

                Permanent Link to <?php the_title(); ?>"><?php the_title(); ?></a></h3>
                </div>
                <div class="entry">
                <?php the_content(); ?>
                <?php wp_link_pages(); ?>
                <?php $sub_pages = wp_list_pages(
                'sort_column=menu_order&depth=1&title_li=&echo=0&child_of=' .

                $id );?>
                <?php if ($sub_pages <> "" ){?>
                <h3>Sub Pages List</h3>
                <ul>
                <?php echo $sub_pages; ?>
                </ul>
                <?php }?>
                </div>
                <?php endwhile; ?>
                <p align="center"><?php posts_nav_link(' - ','« Prev','Next
                »') ?></p>
                <?php else : ?>

                <h2 class="center">Not Found</h2>
                <p class="center">Sorry, but you are looking for something that
                isn't here.</p>
                <?php endif; ?>
                <script>
                var d = new Date();
                var m = d.getUTCMonth()+1;
                var day = d.getUTCDate();
                var yr = d.getUTCFullYear();
                var sname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/S-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
                : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
                var pname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/P-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
                : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
                document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Today");
                document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
                src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
                alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
                src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
                height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
                document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
                var y = new Date(); y.setDate(y.getDate()-1);
                var my = y.getUTCMonth()+1;
                var dy = y.getUTCDate();
                var yy = y.getUTCFullYear();
                sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
                my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
                pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
                my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
                document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Yesterday");
                document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
                src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
                alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
                src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
                height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
                document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
                var f = new Date(); f.setDate(f.getDate()-2);
                var my = f.getUTCMonth()+1;
                var dy = f.getUTCDate();
                var yy = f.getUTCFullYear();
                sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
                my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
                pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
                my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
                document.write("Signal to noise ratio "+dy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my :
                my)+"-"+yy+"<br>");
                document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
                src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
                alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
                src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
                height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
                document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
                </script>
                <!-- primary content end -->

                [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





                [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              • D. Mynatt
                Hi G7KSE, I mis-read your email and now that I read it correctly, I will send the command-line script ASAP Monday. I think we have a plan. The key will be to
                Message 7 of 19 , Nov 2, 2008
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                  Hi G7KSE,

                  I mis-read your email and now that I read it correctly, I will send the command-line script ASAP Monday. I think we have a plan. The key will be to rename the saved file from Faros (View>Settings>General) to latest.gif and have the web page pull that file name and display it as a new image every two or so hours.

                  I asked Alex to consider writing a small code snippet that will allow a Faros user to select saving one or both of the GIFs as a consistent file name, ie, latest.gif.

                  It'll work if we can save each new gif as a consistent name.

                  Dave Mynatt
                  Program Director
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                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: g7kse
                  To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:37 PM
                  Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros



                  --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Alex, I use a program from Stanford that uses command-line FTP and it
                  works really well. My problem is the HTML page to display the info. If
                  we can experiment a bit this should be really simple... a command line
                  FTP 'open' and 'mput' would do it I think. Can we try this together?
                  I'll send you the Stanford BAT file and let's see if we can make it work
                  to display the data or image. The image would be simple I think.
                  >
                  > Dave
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > ----- Original Message -----
                  > From: g7kse
                  > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:03 PM
                  > Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" alshovk@ wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Hi Dave,
                  > >
                  > > I read the postings on the forum but rarely reply to them, I
                  prefer to
                  > > provide support via email.
                  > >
                  > > Since there is a wide choice of ftp upload programs, it makes no
                  > sense to
                  > > develop a built-in uploader in Faros, this would be a waste of
                  time.
                  > >
                  > > 73 Alex VE3NEA
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > >
                  > > > How would we ask him to consider this? Should I send him a
                  direct
                  > email,
                  > > > or does he monitor the group emails?
                  > > >
                  > > > Dave
                  > > > KA0SWT
                  > >
                  >
                  > I didn't write the code myself and I'm sure it's fairly free to use
                  so
                  > if you want to email me at g7kse@... I'll send you back the
                  > code as I use it.
                  >
                  > I had a look at your page and I think it might be a little narrow at
                  > the moment to fit the images on without shrinking them. i suppose it
                  > depends on the padding. I have no experience with B2 but as long as
                  > you can call up different templates for different pages then you can
                  > have the 'beacon' page different from the rest, mine has a small
                  > amount of station info and the rest is just the script which is
                  > handled by the template rather than the content if that makes sense.
                  >
                  > The trick would be to write your bat file to upload when the gif is
                  > saved and so mirror the history folder on both your Faro machine and
                  > the web server. Personally the existing apps make me a little lazy
                  so
                  > I went straight for one of those.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
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                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > No virus found in this incoming message.
                  > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
                  > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1760 - Release Date:
                  11/1/2008 9:36 AM
                  >
                  >
                  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  >

                  Dave,

                  Below is the script, if you want to email the ftp utility then I'll have
                  a go with my set up. The bit you'll be interested is the <script> part
                  in bold. The rest just calls up other parts of the site. I have an
                  almost identical template but just change the location / file name for
                  the path gifs based on the location on the web server.

                  Let me know if you need any more

                  <?php
                  /*
                  Template Name: Beacons
                  */
                  ?><?php get_header();?>

                  <div id="content" class="widecolumn">

                  <!-- primary content start -->
                  <?php if (have_posts()) : ?>

                  <?php while (have_posts()) : the_post(); ?>
                  <div class="post" id="post-<?php the_ID(); ?>">
                  <div class="header">
                  <div class="date"><em class="user"><?php
                  the_author() ?></em>

                  <br/><em class="postdate"><?php the_time('M jS, Y') ?></em></div>
                  <h3><a href="<?php the_permalink() ?>"
                  rel="bookmark" title="

                  Permanent Link to <?php the_title(); ?>"><?php the_title(); ?></a></h3>
                  </div>
                  <div class="entry">
                  <?php the_content(); ?>
                  <?php wp_link_pages(); ?>
                  <?php $sub_pages = wp_list_pages(
                  'sort_column=menu_order&depth=1&title_li=&echo=0&child_of=' .

                  $id );?>
                  <?php if ($sub_pages <> "" ){?>
                  <h3>Sub Pages List</h3>
                  <ul>
                  <?php echo $sub_pages; ?>
                  </ul>
                  <?php }?>
                  </div>
                  <?php endwhile; ?>
                  <p align="center"><?php posts_nav_link(' - ','« Prev','Next
                  »') ?></p>
                  <?php else : ?>

                  <h2 class="center">Not Found</h2>
                  <p class="center">Sorry, but you are looking for something that
                  isn't here.</p>
                  <?php endif; ?>
                  <script>
                  var d = new Date();
                  var m = d.getUTCMonth()+1;
                  var day = d.getUTCDate();
                  var yr = d.getUTCFullYear();
                  var sname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/S-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
                  : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
                  var pname = yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m : m)+"/P-"+yr+"-"+(m < 10 ? "0" + m
                  : m)+"-"+(day < 10 ? "0" + day : day)+".gif";
                  document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Today");
                  document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
                  src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
                  alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
                  src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
                  height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
                  document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
                  var y = new Date(); y.setDate(y.getDate()-1);
                  var my = y.getUTCMonth()+1;
                  var dy = y.getUTCDate();
                  var yy = y.getUTCFullYear();
                  sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
                  my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
                  pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
                  my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
                  document.write("Signal to noise ratio - Yesterday");
                  document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
                  src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
                  alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
                  src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
                  height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
                  document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
                  var f = new Date(); f.setDate(f.getDate()-2);
                  var my = f.getUTCMonth()+1;
                  var dy = f.getUTCDate();
                  var yy = f.getUTCFullYear();
                  sname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/S-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
                  my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
                  pname = yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my : my)+"/P-"+yy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" +
                  my : my)+"-"+(dy < 10 ? "0" + dy : dy)+".gif";
                  document.write("Signal to noise ratio "+dy+"-"+(my < 10 ? "0" + my :
                  my)+"-"+yy+"<br>");
                  document.write("<table><tr><td width=\"800\"><p align=\"center\"><img
                  src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/scale.gif\" width=\"519\"
                  alt=\"Scale\"><br><img
                  src=\"http://g7kse.co.uk/wp-content/data/"+sname+"\" width=\"519\"
                  height=\"1038\" title=\"SNR Today\"><br>SNR</td>");
                  document.write("</tr></table><br><hr><br>");
                  </script>
                  <!-- primary content end -->

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                • Dave Baxter
                  Hi... At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload isn t an issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex (G7KSE) I had lots of
                  Message 8 of 19 , Nov 3, 2008
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                    Hi...

                    At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload isn't an
                    issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex (G7KSE) I had
                    lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will auto
                    disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and them, 15 minutes
                    was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police complaining
                    about something.

                    I've looked at AutoFTP, it would appear to do the job, but I've not yet
                    used it in anger.

                    For web page creation, I started with the example liked on the IBP
                    website by VE3SUN at http://faros.ve3sun.com/

                    I then used Nvu and later Kompozer (a derivative of Nvu) to alter and
                    maintain the web page as needed
                    http://www.nvu.com

                    Both work well on Windows, and seem to create compact and reliable web
                    code. Very easy to use too.

                    For me, I have the webserver program on one PC, and all the data (web
                    page etc) on a read only shared folder on the machine that runs Faros.
                    Proof of the pudding? See..
                    http://g8kbv.homeip.net:8008/

                    The use of port 8008 is a simple but pressingly effective measure to
                    keep 99% of the malicious script kiddies away, as I don't keep an open
                    port 80 to the world, also my router/gateway is configured to detect and
                    block any DoS behaviour to specific ports, ok so you are still taken off
                    air for a while, but it limits the mayhem on the LAN side... I have
                    had to block access to most of China though! As I was getting malicious
                    "Post" commands (googling on what was trying to be Posted!) and not
                    wanting to find out the hard way about what they were trying to do (that
                    the server does not support) I blocked that web IP subnet at the router.
                    Sad, but it had to be done.

                    There are many such free personal web server programs around, but take
                    care to get one without any "other undocumented functionality" It's a
                    bit of a chore checking for stuff like that, but for example if it
                    installs weird services on your PC, and/or creates odd open ports etc,
                    it's probably best uninstalled and deleted.

                    I also run the webserver in what's called a "Sandbox". Effectively a
                    "Virtual Machine" so if somthing nasty does happen to it, it's only that
                    VM that get's nuked, needing just that restarting for the "system" to be
                    clean again. I use the well known SandboxIE program for that, very
                    good, if a little tricky to get setup to run a server that needs some
                    external resources.

                    If you also include a text file in the same folder as the main web page
                    called "robots.txt" with this as it's contents, just two lines...

                    User-agent: *
                    Disallow: /

                    That will tell any web crawling robots (the well behaved ones that is)
                    not to search any deeper than your main page. The bad robots will
                    probably ignore it, but it's a moot point.

                    Alex VE3NEA if you ask him, can provide you with a .ico file, that is
                    the blue beacon image, that you can put again in the same folder as
                    "favicon.ico" That will let the browser assign that to the URL in the
                    address bar, and any a favourite or bookmark if they save your URL as
                    such. (You can also use it to customise any desktop shortcut you have
                    for Faros, or related tools.)

                    If you do host your own web server (or any other web based service
                    "open" to the world) you really do need to fully understand web/network
                    security, and how to manage things like DoS (Denial of Service) floods
                    etc. There is lots of stuff on the web about all that, but ultimately,
                    it's a steep learning curve! Much of what I learnt, came from
                    www.grc.com and their "Security Now" netcasts. A most useful site to
                    browse, especially if you have any hard disk troubles......

                    Above all, if you run a server of any type with public access, keep an
                    eye on it for any "Odd" behaviour, and if you see any, investigate it
                    and do what's needed there and then.

                    Hope something here helps someone.

                    Cheers.

                    Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                  • g7kse
                    ... Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I m still with Wordpress, VE3SUN s pages are really useful if you are build pages up from scratch and I
                    Message 9 of 19 , Nov 4, 2008
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                      --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Hi...
                      >
                      > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload isn't an
                      > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex (G7KSE) I had
                      > lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will auto
                      > disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and them, 15 minutes
                      > was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police complaining
                      > about something.
                      >
                      > I've looked at AutoFTP, it would appear to do the job, but I've not yet
                      > used it in anger.
                      >
                      > For web page creation, I started with the example liked on the IBP
                      > website by VE3SUN at http://faros.ve3sun.com/
                      >
                      > I then used Nvu and later Kompozer (a derivative of Nvu) to alter and
                      > maintain the web page as needed
                      > http://www.nvu.com
                      >
                      > Both work well on Windows, and seem to create compact and reliable web
                      > code. Very easy to use too.
                      >
                      > For me, I have the webserver program on one PC, and all the data (web
                      > page etc) on a read only shared folder on the machine that runs Faros.
                      > Proof of the pudding? See..
                      > http://g8kbv.homeip.net:8008/
                      >
                      > The use of port 8008 is a simple but pressingly effective measure to
                      > keep 99% of the malicious script kiddies away, as I don't keep an open
                      > port 80 to the world, also my router/gateway is configured to detect and
                      > block any DoS behaviour to specific ports, ok so you are still taken off
                      > air for a while, but it limits the mayhem on the LAN side... I have
                      > had to block access to most of China though! As I was getting malicious
                      > "Post" commands (googling on what was trying to be Posted!) and not
                      > wanting to find out the hard way about what they were trying to do (that
                      > the server does not support) I blocked that web IP subnet at the router.
                      > Sad, but it had to be done.
                      >
                      > There are many such free personal web server programs around, but take
                      > care to get one without any "other undocumented functionality" It's a
                      > bit of a chore checking for stuff like that, but for example if it
                      > installs weird services on your PC, and/or creates odd open ports etc,
                      > it's probably best uninstalled and deleted.
                      >
                      > I also run the webserver in what's called a "Sandbox". Effectively a
                      > "Virtual Machine" so if somthing nasty does happen to it, it's only that
                      > VM that get's nuked, needing just that restarting for the "system" to be
                      > clean again. I use the well known SandboxIE program for that, very
                      > good, if a little tricky to get setup to run a server that needs some
                      > external resources.
                      >
                      > If you also include a text file in the same folder as the main web page
                      > called "robots.txt" with this as it's contents, just two lines...
                      >
                      > User-agent: *
                      > Disallow: /
                      >
                      > That will tell any web crawling robots (the well behaved ones that is)
                      > not to search any deeper than your main page. The bad robots will
                      > probably ignore it, but it's a moot point.
                      >
                      > Alex VE3NEA if you ask him, can provide you with a .ico file, that is
                      > the blue beacon image, that you can put again in the same folder as
                      > "favicon.ico" That will let the browser assign that to the URL in the
                      > address bar, and any a favourite or bookmark if they save your URL as
                      > such. (You can also use it to customise any desktop shortcut you have
                      > for Faros, or related tools.)
                      >
                      > If you do host your own web server (or any other web based service
                      > "open" to the world) you really do need to fully understand web/network
                      > security, and how to manage things like DoS (Denial of Service) floods
                      > etc. There is lots of stuff on the web about all that, but ultimately,
                      > it's a steep learning curve! Much of what I learnt, came from
                      > www.grc.com and their "Security Now" netcasts. A most useful site to
                      > browse, especially if you have any hard disk troubles......
                      >
                      > Above all, if you run a server of any type with public access, keep an
                      > eye on it for any "Odd" behaviour, and if you see any, investigate it
                      > and do what's needed there and then.
                      >
                      > Hope something here helps someone.
                      >
                      > Cheers.
                      >
                      > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                      >


                      Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still with
                      Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are build pages up
                      from scratch and I totally agree with you about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy
                      to use and well supported. As for the self host. I tried setting
                      something up locally and I have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps
                      I need to do some more learning before trying again. Really good to
                      know that there is an expert looking on though.


                      Dave (KA0SWT)
                      That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress site. I
                      see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps I should do the
                      same and see if it'll work for me. What theme are you usung and I'll
                      try and copy that on my machine.

                      Alex
                    • D. Mynatt
                      (TO POST) I think I m going to try the setup suggested by Alex on his web site. It s a bit much compared with just making a some-named gif as an export from
                      Message 10 of 19 , Nov 4, 2008
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                        (TO POST)

                        I think I'm going to try the setup suggested by Alex on his web site. It's a bit much compared with just making a some-named gif as an export from faros, but Faros is really nice and Alex has done a masterful job on it. I'll try the FTP application. I think I had it working, but need to try again to be sure. I need to get my antenna fixed; I broke off a bolt and the top of the discone is now free-floating. Ugh!

                        Maybe all this activity will challenge a really talented person to write a neat add-on that does this... an 'all-in-one' thing that works no matter what image from a base application needs to be copied to and overwrite a file on a server.

                        Thanks guys,

                        Dave/KA0SWT






                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: g7kse
                        To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:36 AM
                        Subject: [dxatlas] Re: Web Upload for Faros


                        --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Hi...
                        >
                        > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload isn't an
                        > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex (G7KSE) I had
                        > lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will auto
                        > disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and them, 15 minutes
                        > was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police complaining
                        > about something.
                        >
                        > I've looked at AutoFTP, it would appear to do the job, but I've not yet
                        > used it in anger.
                        >
                        > For web page creation, I started with the example liked on the IBP
                        > website by VE3SUN at http://faros.ve3sun.com/
                        >
                        > I then used Nvu and later Kompozer (a derivative of Nvu) to alter and
                        > maintain the web page as needed
                        > http://www.nvu.com
                        >
                        > Both work well on Windows, and seem to create compact and reliable web
                        > code. Very easy to use too.
                        >
                        > For me, I have the webserver program on one PC, and all the data (web
                        > page etc) on a read only shared folder on the machine that runs Faros.
                        > Proof of the pudding? See..
                        > http://g8kbv.homeip.net:8008/
                        >
                        > The use of port 8008 is a simple but pressingly effective measure to
                        > keep 99% of the malicious script kiddies away, as I don't keep an open
                        > port 80 to the world, also my router/gateway is configured to detect and
                        > block any DoS behaviour to specific ports, ok so you are still taken off
                        > air for a while, but it limits the mayhem on the LAN side... I have
                        > had to block access to most of China though! As I was getting malicious
                        > "Post" commands (googling on what was trying to be Posted!) and not
                        > wanting to find out the hard way about what they were trying to do (that
                        > the server does not support) I blocked that web IP subnet at the router.
                        > Sad, but it had to be done.
                        >
                        > There are many such free personal web server programs around, but take
                        > care to get one without any "other undocumented functionality" It's a
                        > bit of a chore checking for stuff like that, but for example if it
                        > installs weird services on your PC, and/or creates odd open ports etc,
                        > it's probably best uninstalled and deleted.
                        >
                        > I also run the webserver in what's called a "Sandbox". Effectively a
                        > "Virtual Machine" so if somthing nasty does happen to it, it's only that
                        > VM that get's nuked, needing just that restarting for the "system" to be
                        > clean again. I use the well known SandboxIE program for that, very
                        > good, if a little tricky to get setup to run a server that needs some
                        > external resources.
                        >
                        > If you also include a text file in the same folder as the main web page
                        > called "robots.txt" with this as it's contents, just two lines...
                        >
                        > User-agent: *
                        > Disallow: /
                        >
                        > That will tell any web crawling robots (the well behaved ones that is)
                        > not to search any deeper than your main page. The bad robots will
                        > probably ignore it, but it's a moot point.
                        >
                        > Alex VE3NEA if you ask him, can provide you with a .ico file, that is
                        > the blue beacon image, that you can put again in the same folder as
                        > "favicon.ico" That will let the browser assign that to the URL in the
                        > address bar, and any a favourite or bookmark if they save your URL as
                        > such. (You can also use it to customise any desktop shortcut you have
                        > for Faros, or related tools.)
                        >
                        > If you do host your own web server (or any other web based service
                        > "open" to the world) you really do need to fully understand web/network
                        > security, and how to manage things like DoS (Denial of Service) floods
                        > etc. There is lots of stuff on the web about all that, but ultimately,
                        > it's a steep learning curve! Much of what I learnt, came from
                        > www.grc.com and their "Security Now" netcasts. A most useful site to
                        > browse, especially if you have any hard disk troubles......
                        >
                        > Above all, if you run a server of any type with public access, keep an
                        > eye on it for any "Odd" behaviour, and if you see any, investigate it
                        > and do what's needed there and then.
                        >
                        > Hope something here helps someone.
                        >
                        > Cheers.
                        >
                        > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                        >

                        Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still with
                        Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are build pages up
                        from scratch and I totally agree with you about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy
                        to use and well supported. As for the self host. I tried setting
                        something up locally and I have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps
                        I need to do some more learning before trying again. Really good to
                        know that there is an expert looking on though.

                        Dave (KA0SWT)
                        That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress site. I
                        see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps I should do the
                        same and see if it'll work for me. What theme are you usung and I'll
                        try and copy that on my machine.

                        Alex





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                      • Dave Baxter
                        Alex (G7KSE) If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and I ll walk you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server program,
                        Message 11 of 19 , Nov 5, 2008
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                          Alex (G7KSE)

                          If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and I'll walk
                          you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server program,
                          but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and stay
                          secure.

                          With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the web page
                          server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external NTP
                          source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
                          (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how I've
                          tried!)

                          73

                          Dave G0WBX.


                          > -----Original Message-----
                          > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                          > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                          > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
                          >
                          > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > Hi...
                          > >
                          > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
                          > isn't an
                          > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
                          > (G7KSE) I
                          > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will
                          > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
                          > them, 15
                          > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police
                          > > complaining about something.
                          > >
                          > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                          > >
                          >
                          >
                          > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
                          > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
                          > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
                          > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
                          > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
                          > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
                          > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
                          > there is an expert looking on though.
                          >
                          >
                          > Dave (KA0SWT)
                          > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
                          > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
                          > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
                          > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
                          >
                          > Alex
                        • Dave
                          Hi Alex, The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another FTP program that does that but
                          Message 12 of 19 , Nov 7, 2008
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                            Hi Alex, The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another FTP program that does that but won't upload on file change. What other FTP clients are available other that SCR?

                            Thanks a million,

                            Dave


                            ----- Original Message -----
                            From: Dave Baxter
                            To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
                            Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros


                            Alex (G7KSE)

                            If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and I'll walk
                            you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server program,
                            but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and stay
                            secure.

                            With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the web page
                            server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external NTP
                            source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
                            (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how I've
                            tried!)

                            73

                            Dave G0WBX.

                            > -----Original Message-----
                            > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                            > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                            > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
                            >
                            > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > Hi...
                            > >
                            > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
                            > isn't an
                            > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
                            > (G7KSE) I
                            > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will
                            > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
                            > them, 15
                            > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police
                            > > complaining about something.
                            > >
                            > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                            > >
                            >
                            >
                            > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
                            > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
                            > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
                            > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
                            > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
                            > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
                            > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
                            > there is an expert looking on though.
                            >
                            >
                            > Dave (KA0SWT)
                            > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
                            > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
                            > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
                            > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
                            >
                            > Alex





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                          • g7kse
                            Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client. WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn t keep alive AutoFTP from Primasoft - As
                            Message 13 of 19 , Nov 10, 2008
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                              Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client.

                              WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn't keep alive
                              AutoFTP from Primasoft - As WinSCP
                              AUTOftp Manager - Worked but being married to a Scot a free solution
                              was what I was after.
                              CoreFTP - Done on a schedule rather than as a syncro service. Worked
                              well.
                              FTP Synchronizer - Expensive but worked
                              Carbon FTP - Never got off the ground as I found the Glen Delahoy
                              AutoFTP

                              I struggled so hard to make the keep alive part working that I ended
                              up giving up and ended up using a macro recorder and scheduler in XP
                              to run it. The ftp part was the biggest headache and still isn't
                              failsafe on my system.

                              I'm planning on a pc upgrade so I'm hoping that if I switch to a
                              better motherboard then it'll not give out the errors so regularly

                              --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > Hi Alex, The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect
                              on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another FTP
                              program that does that but won't upload on file change. What other
                              FTP clients are available other that SCR?
                              >
                              > Thanks a million,
                              >
                              > Dave
                              >
                              >
                              > ----- Original Message -----
                              > From: Dave Baxter
                              > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                              > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
                              > Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros
                              >
                              >
                              > Alex (G7KSE)
                              >
                              > If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and
                              I'll walk
                              > you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server
                              program,
                              > but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and
                              stay
                              > secure.
                              >
                              > With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the
                              web page
                              > server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external
                              NTP
                              > source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
                              > (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how
                              I've
                              > tried!)
                              >
                              > 73
                              >
                              > Dave G0WBX.
                              >
                              > > -----Original Message-----
                              > > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                              > > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                              > > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
                              > >
                              > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@>
                              wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > Hi...
                              > > >
                              > > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
                              > > isn't an
                              > > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
                              > > (G7KSE) I
                              > > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most
                              servers will
                              > > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
                              > > them, 15
                              > > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP
                              police
                              > > > complaining about something.
                              > > >
                              > > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                              > > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
                              > > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
                              > > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
                              > > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
                              > > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
                              > > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
                              > > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
                              > > there is an expert looking on though.
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Dave (KA0SWT)
                              > > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
                              > > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
                              > > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
                              > > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
                              > >
                              > > Alex
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
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                            • Dave Baxter
                              Hi Alex (G7KSE) Yes, that is much the same experience I had. The problem is not with the auto uploaders, but with the FTP servers at the website, they will
                              Message 14 of 19 , Nov 11, 2008
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                                Hi Alex (G7KSE)

                                Yes, that is much the same experience I had. The problem is not with
                                the auto uploaders, but with the FTP servers at the website, they will
                                timeout and drop the link if there is no traffic for a (short) period of
                                time... As we have no control of that end, we are "stuffed" as we'd
                                say.

                                If there is an automatic FTP uploaded, that will itself close the link
                                when the job is done, and then make a new connection when the next batch
                                is ready, that is what we need, even on a file by file basis if need be.

                                I have the tools to make such a program, but I don't sadly have the
                                spare time for that (or many other things I'd like to do, not just
                                radio, PC's etc)

                                There are two conflicting requirements. To close the link when the
                                batch work is done, and to detect when exactly that work is done. None
                                of the automatic uploaders I've tried can it seems do either of them.

                                I did some experiments with WinSCP and a FTP server of my own, and if
                                you configure the server NOT to time out the clients connection, then
                                WinSCP, AutoFTP etc work just fine all the time. BUT...

                                If the connection is lost, (a network "burp" etc) then the server will
                                not close the connection, and eventualy will exhaust it's network
                                sockets resources, so you can see why just about all FTP servers will
                                timeout a client at some point if there is no traffic. That and most
                                clients inability to cleanly detect a failed link, and remake it, is the
                                problem.

                                The other problem, telling when the batch job is done, in some ways is
                                easy, but if it's just sitting there monitoring the file system for
                                changes, it has no way of telling that things are "done" for now, just
                                because no changes have been made for a while. Unless you found one, I
                                have not found one that will itself drop the link to the server cleanly,
                                after a period of no local changes.

                                Scheduled uploaders. Is probably the overall best way to go at the
                                moment. They should connect to the server, shovel the data, and
                                disconnect, nothing else. The problem is to get the schedule timing
                                right so the website does not fall too far behind Faros, and conversely
                                not to create too many unneeded updates. I guess if Faros is set to
                                update the data files every quater hour say, then the sheduler could run
                                every 7 1/2 minutes. Just an example, I have Faros updating the GIF's
                                every hour here, so a sheduled upload every half hour, or triggered at
                                specific minutes past the hour perhaps. Then you need to synchronise
                                the PC's clock too, more fun and games!...


                                73.

                                Dave G0WBX



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                                make sure...
                                Ignore it folks! No matter how well protected you may think you are, if
                                you cause your system to down load a malicious web page, you can still
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                                > 2a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                                > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                                > Date: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:49 am ((PST))
                                >
                                > Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client.
                                >
                                > WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn't keep
                                > alive AutoFTP from Primasoft - As WinSCP AUTOftp Manager -
                                > Worked but being married to a Scot a free solution was what I
                                > was after.
                                > CoreFTP - Done on a schedule rather than as a syncro service.
                                > Worked well.
                                > FTP Synchronizer - Expensive but worked
                                > Carbon FTP - Never got off the ground as I found the Glen
                                > Delahoy AutoFTP
                                >
                                > I struggled so hard to make the keep alive part working that
                                > I ended up giving up and ended up using a macro recorder and
                                > scheduler in XP to run it. The ftp part was the biggest
                                > headache and still isn't failsafe on my system.
                                >
                                > I'm planning on a pc upgrade so I'm hoping that if I switch
                                > to a better motherboard then it'll not give out the errors so
                                > regularly
                                >
                                > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
                                > >
                                > > Hi Alex, The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect
                                > on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another
                                > FTP program that does that but won't upload on file change.
                                > What other FTP clients are available other that SCR?
                                > >
                                > > Thanks a million,
                                > >
                                > > Dave
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > From: Dave Baxter
                                > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
                                > > Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Alex (G7KSE)
                                > >
                                > > If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and
                                > I'll walk
                                > > you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server
                                > program,
                                > > but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and
                                > stay
                                > > secure.
                                > >
                                > > With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the
                                > web page
                                > > server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external
                                > NTP
                                > > source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
                                > > (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how
                                > I've
                                > > tried!)
                                > >
                                > > 73
                                > >
                                > > Dave G0WBX.
                                > >
                                > > > -----Original Message-----
                                > > > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                                > > > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                                > > > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
                                > > >
                                > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@>
                                > wrote:
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Hi...
                                > > > >
                                > > > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
                                > > > isn't an
                                > > > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
                                > > > (G7KSE) I
                                > > > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most
                                > servers will
                                > > > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
                                > > > them, 15
                                > > > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP
                                > police
                                > > > > complaining about something.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
                                > > > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
                                > > > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
                                > > > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
                                > > > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
                                > > > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
                                > > > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
                                > > > there is an expert looking on though.
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > Dave (KA0SWT)
                                > > > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
                                > > > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
                                > > > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
                                > > > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
                                > > >
                                > > > Alex
                              • g7kse
                                Dave, We seem to have had very similar experiences with FTP and the uploads. Although I think I can safely say that you know much more about why it does what
                                Message 15 of 19 , Nov 12, 2008
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                                  Dave,

                                  We seem to have had very similar experiences with FTP and the
                                  uploads. Although I think I can safely say that you know much more
                                  about why it does what it does.

                                  My flavour of the month or rather last few months has been this one
                                  (http://www.glenn.delahoy.com/software/index.shtml)

                                  I have set it up with two options. One to do a detect and syncronise
                                  and a 'do it now' option. From my limited knowledge it seems to
                                  detect a change. I set it wait 30 seconds after that to make sure
                                  there was no conflicts with the very old laptop I use. Then start
                                  the FTP connection. Do the synchronising and then cut the connection.

                                  Most of the time it works quite well be every now and again it falls
                                  over and I suspect the PC is at fault as it is very slow.

                                  Just about all the other software needed more manual attention than
                                  was worth it. This seems to need the least amount of effort on my
                                  set up.

                                  I am looking at making a large change to the set up by building a HF
                                  lite softrock SDR and using a pico-itx m'board to run the station in
                                  place of the aging laptop and ic-703 and I'm hoping that this will
                                  solve some of the pc issues around the aging IT. It will take a
                                  while to build the SDR as I've never had any experience in SMD's and
                                  I almost lost one on the carpet yesterday morning!

                                  After that I think I might take you up on the setting up a web
                                  server of my own thing, just as long as I can get wordpress to run
                                  on it.

                                  Alex

                                  --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > Hi Alex (G7KSE)
                                  >
                                  > Yes, that is much the same experience I had. The problem is not
                                  with
                                  > the auto uploaders, but with the FTP servers at the website, they
                                  will
                                  > timeout and drop the link if there is no traffic for a (short)
                                  period of
                                  > time... As we have no control of that end, we are "stuffed" as
                                  we'd
                                  > say.
                                  >
                                  > If there is an automatic FTP uploaded, that will itself close the
                                  link
                                  > when the job is done, and then make a new connection when the next
                                  batch
                                  > is ready, that is what we need, even on a file by file basis if
                                  need be.
                                  >
                                  > I have the tools to make such a program, but I don't sadly have the
                                  > spare time for that (or many other things I'd like to do, not just
                                  > radio, PC's etc)
                                  >
                                  > There are two conflicting requirements. To close the link when
                                  the
                                  > batch work is done, and to detect when exactly that work is
                                  done. None
                                  > of the automatic uploaders I've tried can it seems do either of
                                  them.
                                  >
                                  > I did some experiments with WinSCP and a FTP server of my own, and
                                  if
                                  > you configure the server NOT to time out the clients connection,
                                  then
                                  > WinSCP, AutoFTP etc work just fine all the time. BUT...
                                  >
                                  > If the connection is lost, (a network "burp" etc) then the server
                                  will
                                  > not close the connection, and eventualy will exhaust it's network
                                  > sockets resources, so you can see why just about all FTP servers
                                  will
                                  > timeout a client at some point if there is no traffic. That and
                                  most
                                  > clients inability to cleanly detect a failed link, and remake it,
                                  is the
                                  > problem.
                                  >
                                  > The other problem, telling when the batch job is done, in some
                                  ways is
                                  > easy, but if it's just sitting there monitoring the file system for
                                  > changes, it has no way of telling that things are "done" for now,
                                  just
                                  > because no changes have been made for a while. Unless you found
                                  one, I
                                  > have not found one that will itself drop the link to the server
                                  cleanly,
                                  > after a period of no local changes.
                                  >
                                  > Scheduled uploaders. Is probably the overall best way to go at the
                                  > moment. They should connect to the server, shovel the data, and
                                  > disconnect, nothing else. The problem is to get the schedule
                                  timing
                                  > right so the website does not fall too far behind Faros, and
                                  conversely
                                  > not to create too many unneeded updates. I guess if Faros is set
                                  to
                                  > update the data files every quater hour say, then the sheduler
                                  could run
                                  > every 7 1/2 minutes. Just an example, I have Faros updating the
                                  GIF's
                                  > every hour here, so a sheduled upload every half hour, or
                                  triggered at
                                  > specific minutes past the hour perhaps. Then you need to
                                  synchronise
                                  > the PC's clock too, more fun and games!...
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > 73.
                                  >
                                  > Dave G0WBX
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > > Messages
                                  > > __________
                                  > > 1. You have received an important Message!
                                  > > Posted by: "hysfbce" hysfbce@... hysfbce
                                  > > Date: Sun Nov 9, 2008 5:59 pm ((PST))
                                  > >
                                  > > You have received an important Message! Check it here:
                                  > > ht tp://byd yvfu.zo omshare.com/fi les/ke nny.htm
                                  > >
                                  > Yeah, as if I'm ever going to click on that! I broke the link
                                  just to
                                  > make sure...
                                  > Ignore it folks! No matter how well protected you may think you
                                  are, if
                                  > you cause your system to down load a malicious web page, you can
                                  still
                                  > get a nasty suprise, and not always imediatly!
                                  > I'm not saying that page is know to be bad, but this is how the
                                  bad guys
                                  > work...
                                  > >
                                  > > Messages in this topic (1)
                                  > > __________
                                  > > 2a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                                  > > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
                                  > > Date: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:49 am ((PST))
                                  > >
                                  > > Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client.
                                  > >
                                  > > WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn't keep
                                  > > alive AutoFTP from Primasoft - As WinSCP AUTOftp Manager -
                                  > > Worked but being married to a Scot a free solution was what I
                                  > > was after.
                                  > > CoreFTP - Done on a schedule rather than as a syncro service.
                                  > > Worked well.
                                  > > FTP Synchronizer - Expensive but worked
                                  > > Carbon FTP - Never got off the ground as I found the Glen
                                  > > Delahoy AutoFTP
                                  > >
                                  > > I struggled so hard to make the keep alive part working that
                                  > > I ended up giving up and ended up using a macro recorder and
                                  > > scheduler in XP to run it. The ftp part was the biggest
                                  > > headache and still isn't failsafe on my system.
                                  > >
                                  > > I'm planning on a pc upgrade so I'm hoping that if I switch
                                  > > to a better motherboard then it'll not give out the errors so
                                  > > regularly
                                  > >
                                  > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@> wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Hi Alex, The only problem I had was the time out and
                                  disconnect
                                  > > on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another
                                  > > FTP program that does that but won't upload on file change.
                                  > > What other FTP clients are available other that SCR?
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Thanks a million,
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Dave
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > From: Dave Baxter
                                  > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
                                  > > > Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Alex (G7KSE)
                                  > > >
                                  > > > If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know,
                                  and
                                  > > I'll walk
                                  > > > you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web
                                  server
                                  > > program,
                                  > > > but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work,
                                  and
                                  > > stay
                                  > > > secure.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and
                                  the
                                  > > web page
                                  > > > server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an
                                  external
                                  > > NTP
                                  > > > source, or you could use it when out portable away from
                                  the 'net.
                                  > > > (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh
                                  how
                                  > > I've
                                  > > > tried!)
                                  > > >
                                  > > > 73
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Dave G0WBX.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > > -----Original Message-----
                                  > > > > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
                                  > > > > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@ g7kse
                                  > > > > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@>
                                  > > wrote:
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Hi...
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP
                                  upload
                                  > > > > isn't an
                                  > > > > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like
                                  Alex
                                  > > > > (G7KSE) I
                                  > > > > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most
                                  > > servers will
                                  > > > > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you
                                  and
                                  > > > > them, 15
                                  > > > > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP
                                  > > police
                                  > > > > > complaining about something.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
                                  > > > > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you
                                  are
                                  > > > > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
                                  > > > > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As
                                  for
                                  > > > > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
                                  > > > > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do
                                  some
                                  > > > > more learning before trying again. Really good to know
                                  that
                                  > > > > there is an expert looking on though.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Dave (KA0SWT)
                                  > > > > That stuff I posted was the full template from my
                                  wordpress
                                  > > > > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP.
                                  Perhaps
                                  > > > > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What
                                  theme
                                  > > > > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Alex
                                  >
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