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  • Pete Smith
    Jul 3, 2008
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      Perhaps something could be worked out so that they could have a
      subscription portal, and access would only work if your subscription was
      current.

      You might want to suggest it to the people at QRZ.

      73, Pete N4ZR

      At 08:43 AM 7/3/2008, rdvrey wrote:
      >Hi Alex,
      >
      >I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold
      >the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information
      >has much bigger value, to bad.
      >
      >73,
      >
      >Robert PE1CWU
      >
      >--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi Robert,
      > >
      > > I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if
      > > automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He
      > > answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't
      >exactly
      > > fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.
      > >
      > > 73 Alex VE3NEA
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
      > > To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
      > > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM
      > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
      > >
      > >
      > > Dear Dan
      > >
      > > I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
      > > alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
      > > but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
      > > assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
      > > channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
      > > With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
      > > software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
      > > up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
      > > the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
      > > to date database this way.
      > >
      > > 73,
      > >
      > > Robert
      > >
      > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Dear Robert
      > > >
      > > > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
      > > the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
      > > HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
      > > >
      > > > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
      > > amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
      > > >
      > > > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
      > > Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
      > > for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
      > > worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
      > > >
      > > > If you are interested, my credentials are:
      > > > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
      > > built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
      > > them further their education.
      > > > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
      > > processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
      > > an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
      > > (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
      > > > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
      > > satellite tracking.
      > > > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
      > > the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
      > > college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
      > > to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
      > > engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
      > > accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
      > > selectors on TVs.
      > > >
      > > > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
      > > >
      > > > Best Regards
      > > > Dan Schaaf
      > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
      > > > ===============================
      > > > NOBSKA
      > > > www.nobska.net
      > > > ===============================
      > > > Cape Cod Instruments
      > > > www.oceanbiz.net
      > > > ===============================
      > > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: rdvrey
      > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
      > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You
      >like to
      > > > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
      > > > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
      > > > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
      > > > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
      > > > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
      > > > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
      > > > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
      > > > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a
      >logbook
      > > > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
      > > > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
      > > > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
      > > >
      > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
      > > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
      > > > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and
      >DXPeditions in
      > > > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
      > > > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
      > > > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or
      >trying
      > > > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
      > > > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
      > > > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are
      >tuning for
      > > > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
      > > > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
      > > > other accessories offset from the radio.
      > > > >
      > > > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
      > > > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
      > > > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or
      >maybe
      > > > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for
      >you.
      > > > >
      > > > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport
      >is the
      > > > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
      > > > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
      > > > >
      > > > > Best Regards
      > > > > Dan Schaaf
      > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
      > > > > ===============================
      > > > > NOBSKA
      > > > > www.nobska.net
      > > > > ===============================
      > > > > Cape Cod Instruments
      > > > > www.oceanbiz.net
      > > > > ===============================
      > > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > > From: rdvrey
      > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
      > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
      > > mouse its
      > > > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
      > > rig is
      > > > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
      > > the PC
      > > > > too.
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
      > > > wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
      > > after I
      > > > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around
      >with a
      > > > > digital adjustment in the software.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Best Regards
      > > > > > Dan Schaaf
      > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
      > > > > >
      > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > > > From: rdvrey
      > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
      > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
      > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
      > > > clicking on
      > > > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
      > > frequency and
      > > > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
      > > > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
      > > into the
      > > > > > New QSO window of the log.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already
      >worked, BM
      > > > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
      > > > logged, then
      > > > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
      > > country,
      > > > > > it is shown in black in BM.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is
      >underlined.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and
      >it has
      > > > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
      > > a lot
      > > > > > of searching.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Best Regards
      > > > > > > Dan Schaaf
      > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > > > > From: rdvrey
      > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
      > > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"
      ><dan-schaaf@>
      > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
      > > > > Bandmaster.
      > > > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Best Regards
      > > > > > > > Dan Schaaf
      > > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > > > > > From: rdvrey
      > > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
      > > > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Hi,
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
      > > > i am
      > > > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > 73,
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
      > > > > > > >
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      > > > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
      > > > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
      > > > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > 73,
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Robert
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      > > > > >
      > > > > > Hi,
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small
      >steps,
      > > > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > 73,
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Robert
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