I think you raise a really key point about whether authorship is clear
if comments can be edited. The video shows that Wave attempts to make
this explicit through highlighting changes the first time they are seen
by another user and then making the sequence of edits continuously
available to view using the playback function. I'm not so sure this is
enough for some cases.
Obviously the example presented in the video is of a business report
where authorship is less an issue. However for language learners there
may well be a need for individuals to feel a greater sense of their
participation. I am wondering whether there needs to be another way for
students to gain recognition for their individual efforts. Blogs are
very much about an individual's writings but Wave is based more on
wikis, which only offer acknowledgment of each author's contribution
within the history page of the document. Wave changes the interface,
but essentially "playback" is the history tab in a conventional
Your other point about how we learn is then related in my view, because
motivation must surely be partly gained through recognition and
yet collaborative work seems to reduce opportunities for this personal
acknowledgment of achievement.
My experience of using wikis is for students to either create new pages
in Wikipedia (or similar wikis) or to add substantial text to existing
pages. Their contribution is fairly clear to see. However these are
students receiving one-to-one classes and so although their work becomes
merged into the general flow of a Wikipedia page, there is an initial
period where their work remains distinct.
I would be interested in hearing from those who have used wikis in group
lessons as to whether recognition is an issue.
--- In email@example.com, Dennis Newson <djn@...> wrote:
> A second take on this is that it raises, for me at least, the old
> question: HOW do people learn languages - from what gamut of ways?
> learners remember and more or less accurately use what they have
> Will the Google Wave provide some answers?
> Frankly, I'm more than a little on guard about my writing being
> The thought of Scott and Rob, treasure them as I do, modifying my
> before the list and the world see them is not appealing. Or am I
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