- I would like to have 3D printer simplier as Makerbot.com. They cost about 1,299.00. I can not afford it. Is there a way we can built 3D printer from scratch orMessage 1 of 32 , May 9, 2011View SourceI would like to have 3D printer simplier as Makerbot.com. They cost about 1,299.00. I can not afford it. Is there a way we can built 3D printer from scratch or use any parts from inkjet printer that we can? I was hope we can build one under $200.00.
- Is this guy OK ? I m a bit concerned. He seems not even able to read a message without feeling flamed. I didn t reply to him, I agreed with John S on hisMessage 32 of 32 , May 13, 2011View Source
Is this guy OK ? I'm a bit concerned.
He seems not even able to read a message without feeling flamed.
I didn't reply to him, I agreed with John S on his statement about the quality of finishing he needs not being anymore in the capabilities of the RepRap (which is absolutely true).
And, again, Mike pointed out that DLPs are not available yet ... and bla, bla, bla ... and finally complained that we didn't care to give this other guy the answers he was looking for...
No, not at all. This argument was discussed again only because of his own statement/complain about a supposed Anti-reprap bias of the group.
Which is absolutely not existing.
He's definitely very confused about the peculiarities of a group aimed to the development of 3D printing technologies and the desires of the hobbists looking for anything being capable of building something out of a digital file.
He's happy with what the reprap machines offer now ? Perfect, be happy and don't blame other people looking for higher levels of quality and improvement of the existing technologies or - even - pursuing the excellence by developing their own technologies from the scratch.
I feel very sorry whenever I hear of someone leaving a group after a discussion, however I feel he's the one who put himself in a corner and dissatisfied with the arguments being discussed, only because this group doesn't recognize the absolute superiority of RepRap over other technologies (pretty hard to say).
I hope this episode may help all of us to keep in mind that a free and open mind is the most important tool we have. Feed it with as much information as we can and never stop to challenge with new and more ambitious targets. That's the way to go, that's the key for the success.
Never fall in love with our own adorable little toys, there's always something better, several ways to improve, don't stop, never get satisfied, keep looking ahead. And, look sideways.
I personally apologize with Mike and anyone else I may have (unwillingly) flamed, I just tried to defend the true spirit of this group which stays in the development and not in a single tool, good or bad as it might be.
Odd... You are agreeing with me and saying I am reprap obsessed...
I guess you are right, "working" is good to me. As opposed to your DLP printer which is, umm, not working.
As I have said many, many, MANY times I would be VERY interested in a DLP printer WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Right now they do not exist for the hobbyist. Period. So in spite of that, the fact that I am trying to steer the guy asking for a cheap 3d printer to the only one that actually exists makes ME the obsessed one? You apparently never even bothered to consider what the guy asking the question actually wanted, you are only concerned with what you want-- and not even what you can have.
Anyway, You win, I will take my obsessions elsewhere. I have unsubscribed, so you will not need to deal with any future discussion of the RepRap contaminating your group masturbation over the printer you cannot have..
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Paolo Velcich <pavel@...> wrote:
That's the point.
I feel this guy is kind of reprap-minded or almost obsessed and can't see anything further than that.
He reminds me some Chinese engineers in Shenzhen, all the problems I had with them were due to a simple key point:
They didn't understand the quality we needed and on which I base my design.
Anything "working" was good for them, no matter of finishing. clearance and so far ... (BTW: the third largest TV manufacturer in China).
So far, no discussion was possible, since that level of quality and details simple didn't exist in their mind and thus couldn't be understood.
This is an open group and it's not focused/targeted to one technology, general 3D building/printing methods are explored and enhanced as far as our capabilities, knowledge and skills allow.
And it's not matter of what's available now (today) but what's the best result we can achieve on a DIY basis.
At 04:08 PM 5/12/2011, you wrote:
>This is absolutely my philosophy... don't get a dlp printer insteadOh I agree with that,
>of a RepRap, get one in addition to a reprap. :-)
but the critical fit and finish parts that I need now can't
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