I just installed the free Mailsword program last week. How did you know
I had it?
I'm not sure about it. It certainly blocks junk mail. I haven't had one
since I installed, vs. about 10-12 per day before. But I only get about
2/day from daemon mailer saying there is no such address.
I'm concerned about missing mail from new people trying to contact me.
All I did to start was enter all my address book as allowable, and that
works as far as I know. But the messages the program is supposed to send
back to non approved correspondents hasn't produced anything except the few
from daemon mailer.
I have hardly been at the computer for the last week, so haven't tried
to track down any problems yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Arthur" <arthurm@...>
To: "Doug Hay" <dhay@...>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 4:05 PM
> Dear Doug,
> I would be interested (and think others would also) in a report (on
> compsigtips?) on how MailSword has worked for you.
> Isn't it possible to allow messages from everyone in your address book?
> It seems rather slow (in sending me the request for verification).
Protected by MailSword. "Spam Ends Here"
FREE download at: http://www.mensk.com/mailsword.htm
- File, Properties usually shows the product used to send an e-mail.
User-defined fonts often cause problems in messages from people who refuse
to use plain text. Sometimes problem messages are from a non-English
keyboard, sometimes an experiment to look fancy and sometimes a vision
limitation of the sender.
Whitelisting (accepting e-mail from approved addresses) has caused problems
on mailing lists. People ask for help and then block private replies or
don't set up the options correctly. Return receipts are another topic of
I do not follow up on messages if my reply was blocked by SpamCop or
One of the best volunteers for information about using a particular
genealogy program has been blocked by Rootsweb since July 7 and cannot post
to his favorite mailing list. Some ISPs are very quick to block other ISPs
or specific individuals if there is one complaint about spam. -- Elizabeth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Hay"
> I just installed the free Mailsword program last week. How did you
> I had it?
> I'm not sure about it. It certainly blocks junk mail. I haven't had
> since I installed, vs. about 10-12 per day before. But I only get about
> 2/day from daemon mailer saying there is no such address.
> I'm concerned about missing mail from new people trying to contact me.
- Mailsword is a completely new way of stopping spam. It sends a message
to whoever sent you a message and asks them to type a 4 didgit code in
their return message, then it allows them to send all messages to you.
I discovered that Doug had it when I sent the last message about how
to update MS products to prevent the latest worm. I guess Doug has a
different address for me, as I use several, or he failed to enter his
white list properly.
Doug should get two copies of this, as I have added his name to the out
box and I know he can receive mail from this address.(just in case
compsigtips isn't on his white list). It took over 12 hours for
Mailsword to send me the message requesting I reply in person, so it
does slow down mail from 'new' senders to Doug.
On Saturday, Aug 16, 2003, at 15:15 Canada/Mountain, E.Rodier wrote:
> File, Properties usually shows the product used to send an e-mail.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Hay"
>> I just installed the free Mailsword program last week. How did
>> you know I had it?
>> I'm not sure about it. It certainly blocks junk mail. I haven't
>> had one since I installed, vs. about 10-12 per day before. But I only
>> get about 2/day from daemon mailer saying there is no such address.
>> I'm concerned about missing mail from new people trying to
>> contact me.
- Hello Doug,
On 16 Aug 2003 you wrote to Mary and copied to the list:
> Mary, I just installed the free Mailsword program last week. How didMailsword adds two headers to your e-mail which you can not ordinarily
> you know I had it? I'm not sure about it.
see with OE 6.0 that you are using. Some of your headers were:
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
> It certainly blocks junk mail. I haven't had one since I installed,The messages from your daemon mailer indicate that those messages had
> vs. about 10-12 per day before. But I only get about 2/day from daemon
> mailer saying there is no such address. I'm concerned about missing
> mail from new people trying to contact me. All I did to start was enter
> all my address book as allowable, and that works as far as I know. But
> the messages the program is supposed to send back to non approved
> correspondents hasn't produced anything except the few from daemon
faked return addresses, a common tactic of spammers. When Mailsword sends
an auto generated request that the originator send a second e-mail
confirming that they are not a robot spam mailer, that request may get
blocked by their anti spam software or may be just ignored. It also
generates two extra e-mail messages over the internet to add to the
bandwidth congestion on the net. Mailsword seems better than some other
programs that required a second confirmation message in that it remembers
previous confirmed users, and thereby builds its own "white list"
In general, there are two places to detect spam e-mails,
1) on your ISP's computer before you download the message to your
computer, (server side) and
2) on your computer after downloading (using a proxy address or helper
program) before you preview or read it. If you are using a dial-up
connection, with the first way you don't have to wait for unwanted
messages to download. If you have a high speed connection, you may get
better accuracy with the second method, as most of the server side spam
detectors do not test the entire e-mail, only the first 10 lines or so
after the headers.
Mailwasher is a good program of the first kind if properly set up. For a
review of this and other popular programs see:
I use a program of the second kind called POPFile. It is a free program
that is very effectively classifies incoming e-mail into "buckets" which
you can name. Mine are called "spam" and "OK", and you can also have more
buckets to sort your mail as well as "magnets" which pass mail from known
senders directly to your e-mail reader without spam classifcation. You
have to add an extra filter(s) to your e-mail filters or rules to detect
the addition to (of) one or more headers. POPFile's accuracy for me,
after the initial training period, is over 99.8% and it has not had any
false positives after the first few weeks of training. Currently, over
40% of my e-mail is spam. One advantage of POPFile is that you do not
have to manually maintain a blacklist or word list. Read more at:
Another program similar to POPFile, but for Windows only and with a
simpler installation and user interface, is K9. Take a look at:
The current Netscape Version 7.1 browser now has built in spam filtering
for the Netscape mail client, similar in function to POPFile, as well as
programmable filtering for pop ups on the browser. The Mozilla 1.4
browser and e-mail, upon which Netscape is based, also has these advanced
features. For more information, have a look at:
The e-mail program that I use, Pegasus, has built in programable server
side spam filtering in the latest 4.12a version, as well as its extensive
filtering capabilities. It can even be used together with POPFile or
similar classifier programs to achieve almost perfect spam rejection. I
have not yet upgraded to V4.12a to use the content control as POPFile
works so well. It is also possible to continue using your present browser
but to have the mailto: and such clickable links to bring up Pegasus.
One feature that I especially like is to be able to highlight a multiline
URL in an e-mail and then just use the right click feature to open it in
your browser without having to copy and paste. For more information see:
Good luck in blocking spam.