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6302RE: cemetery info online (URL shorteners)

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  • Xenia Stanford
    Jan 21, 2011

      Thanks Jim for the info.

      Ronna sent me the following:

      Just go to http://bit.ly/  (that’s the real URL – not shortened!) – I think you have to register but it is free

      You just copy and paste the URL you want to shorten and it automatically shortens it – then you copy and use the shortened version

      It is used a lot when people are tweeting on twitter – because you can only have 140 characters, you don’t want to use them all up with URL – also some URLs are longer than 140 characters

      Now for my note:

      I can see where it would be useful in cases where you email someone a long url and have to remind them to make sure all characters are input even when it wraps over more than one line. It also would avoid the frustrations I have when sending articles to newspapers and magazines (other than Chinook!) They have a tendency to put a hyphen at the end of a line if the url is too long. I keep trying to explain to my layout people for my books that it is a case of WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) meaning that no character other than the ones to be typed in as the url should be in the text. Otherwise, how will we know a hyphen is for the line break or to be typed in? That is why in Chinook, you will see we either make the url smaller font or  break across the line at the / or some other place where there is not a hyphen.

      Of course, with a shortened url, you do have to trust the source and if one character is wrong, you could go to a naughty site, as Jim warns, or you could be trapped in a phishing scam. Shortened urls are not the only cause of going astray, as we know. One or two letters off a normal url can take you there too. For instance, even reputable people were linking their websites to www.redrival... instead of www.redriver... The redrival site had a virus just waiting for the foolish to land there. Since people tend to incorporate links without checking them out themselves, even people you trust can take you down the wrong street. Because I had a really great virus scan system (not the most famous two!) that caught it, I sent an email to each site I found using the redrival link. Most never responded and never took down the link. Some responded by quietly taking down the link and the odd few blasted me for wasting their time because their links were all good.

      Shortened or full-length url links are not the only cause of landing on sites with viruses or phishing, or on sticky (can’t use back arrow to go to previous page) or naughty sites. Simply searching on the Internet can get you all those problems galore.

      So please check your urls (shortened or not) before passing them on to others and be sure to have up-to-date virus and spyware scanning software.

      Thank you Ronna for giving us these valuable urls and teaching me something new.



      From: owner-dist-gen@... [mailto:owner-dist-gen@...] On Behalf Of Jim Benedict
      Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:31 PM
      To: president@...; 'Ronna L. Byam'; 'Dist-Gen'
      Subject: RE: cemetery info online (URL shorteners)


      Likely the best place for an explanation on URL shorteners is at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_shortening

      Google is one of several sites that offers a shortening service.  Go to http://goo.gl/  where  you can obtain your own shortener.  The main advantage is when you want to offer people a hyperlink to another website but the URL (that string that starts with http://ww and so on) goes on for dozens of characters, which makes it really hard to type in accurately.

      A word of caution: if you do not know or trust the source of the URL shortener, do not click on it or type it in.  This has been one way malicious people get you directed to naughty places.  If you trust the source, then this is a handy tool.

      Jim Benedict




      From: owner-dist-gen@... [mailto:owner-dist-gen@...] On Behalf Of Xenia Stanford
      Sent: January-20-11 3:02 PM
      To: 'Ronna L. Byam'; 'Dist-Gen'
      Subject: RE: cemetery info online


      Nope! I feel like a dummy now! Tell me how and I’ll put it in Chinook so others won’t be as dumb as me!



      From: Ronna L. Byam [mailto:rleeb@...]
      Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:57 PM
      To: president@...; 'Dist-Gen'
      Subject: RE: cemetery info online


      Do you not know what “shortening the URL’s” means?


      From: Xenia Stanford [mailto:xenias@...]
      Sent: 20-Jan-11 2:24 PM
      To: 'Ronna L. Byam'; 'Dist-Gen'
      Subject: RE: cemetery info online


      The urls are strange although they take you the right pages. The Vancouver url is actually http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/NONMARKEtOPERATIONS/MOUNTAINVIEW/burials and Edmonton’s is http://webproxy.edmonton.ca/external/cemeteries



      From: owner-dist-gen@... [mailto:owner-dist-gen@...] On Behalf Of Ronna L. Byam
      Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:23 PM
      To: Dist-Gen
      Subject: cemetery info online


      I don’t know who Valerie Beaudrault is – this info was passed on to someone I know by someone they know – I googled her name and there is a Valerie Beaudrault who does New England stuff and one who does Quebec stuff.  I shortened the URLs.


      Obituary and Cemetery Databases  by Valerie Beaudrault

      Mountain View Cemetery, Vancouver, British Columbia  http://bit.ly/eNKRJB

      The City of Vancouver, British Columbia, has made the Mountain View Cemetery database available on its website. Mountain View Cemetery, established in 1887, is one of the oldest cemeteries in the Vancouver metropolitan area. Click on the History link to read a detailed narrative of the cemetery’s founding and development over the years.

      Click on the Genealogy Resources link in the contents list to access database. The database comprises an alphabetical list of burials. The list was transcribed from the official cemetery records. The data fields in the database include name of the deceased, date of death, date of burial, and location of the grave. Click on the Cemetery Maps link on the alphabetical listing page to view maps. By clicking on each section of the overview map you will be able to view more detailed maps so that you can locate a grave. An explanation on how to interpret the maps has been provided.

      In addition to the alphabetical listing your will find the following burial databases for Mountain View Cemetery: mayors of Vancouver, Vancouver firefighters and police officers who died while on active duty, interesting citizens, WW1 and WW2 military burials, and Fraternal organizations at Mountain View. For many of the entries in these databases you will find links to biographical and photographs.

      There are also stories of local disasters: Rogers Pass Slide Disaster of 1910, a slide in the pass killed 62 men, 30 of whom are buried at Mountain View; New Westminster Railway Disaster of 1909; the Lakeview Tram disaster of 1909, the worst transit accident in Vancouver's history, and a list of burials from the SS Sophia, which sank at Vanderbilt Reef Alaska in October 1918.

      City of Edmonton Cemeteries Database, Edmonton, Alberta  http://bit.ly/gRYr2F

      The City of Edmonton has made a searchable cemeteries database available on its website. The more than 60,000 burials listed in the database took place 25 or more years ago. The following cemeteries have been indexed: Beechmount, Clover Bar, Edmonton, Little Mountain, and Mount Pleasant. The burials for two cemeteries, Northern Lights and South Haven, have not been included.

      First, click on the “How do I obtain the service?” link and then on the Cemetery Location Link to open the database search page. The database may be searched by first name and/or last name. You may search all of the cemeteries at one time or select a specific cemetery to search using the dropdown list. The data fields in the search results are last name, first name, burial date, cemetery name, section, block and plot.

      Brochures for self-guided walking tours of three Edmonton cemeteries: Mt. Pleasant, Edmonton and Beechmount, have been provided. These files are in PDF file format, so you will need Adobe Acrobat Reader to view them.


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