1962RE: Emailing: 0,aid,107754,00
- Sep 5, 2003I am well aware of the type of pop-ups you (the article) talk(s) about.
Theory is fine except when it doesn't work. I have a router and yet I find
these messages on my screen when I have not been on the Internet or had the
web-browser open. The ISP claims it has a firewall. It must be pretty weak
because it does not block these things nor does it block viruses. Thus I
installed a separate firewall software. I found it protects your system by
closing the ports. Even disabling the firewall and virus checker during
installation of software and hardware did not "open" the ports. They were
permanently blocked and regular methods of opening the ports failed.
It was beyond my ken to figure out a solution so I hired an expert. It took
him quite awhile and was only after he contacted the firewall provider that
he was given the three pages of instructions that worked. After he opened
the ports using these instructions, I could re-install software except for
one item and all hardware except for two items, which I am still working on
with the manufacturers. I had both hardware items installed before I
installed the firewall but now even after opening the ports, I cannot
reinstall the hardware (even the expert tried and failed until I decided we
should stop trying). Since then I obtained three pages of instructions from
the manufacturer of one of them but have not had time to deal with it yet.
The other one I can live without if I have to but the first one is important
for part of my business.
The one software program that will not reinstall was running fine before the
ports were blocked except on the PC running Windows 98. The other PCs have
Windows 2000 and after the addition of the firewall software (even after its
removal and opening of the ports) it will not install properly even after
following the lengthy instructions from the software company. Like the
hardware it had been installed and working properly before the firewall
software was first installed.
So theory is great but it isn't always reality.
[mailto:owner-dist-gen@...]On Behalf Of H. Phil Duby
Sent: September 5, 2003 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Emailing: 0,aid,107754,00
There are several different types of pop-ups. The one the article is
talking about has nothing to do with the pop-unders / pop-overs that some
web sites use. This one can be sent directly to your computer (IP address)
any time you are connected to the internet, whether a web browser is open or
not. The port it uses (messenger, not windows messenger or MSN messenger)
should not be used for any network links or installations. This (normally)
only exists for Windows XP, 2000, NT systems. It is intended to be used by
network administrators to send important (alerter) messages, like 'email is
going to be down at <time> for 1 hour'. For home users connected directly
to the internet, it can be used to send text messages from anywhere on the
internet (unless your ISP has a firewall that is blocking it). A home user,
even with several computers, has no need for this 'service', and can safely
disable it. A home user with serveral computer is probably connected to the
internet through a 'router', which would normally block those messages
H. Phil Duby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Xenia Stanford" <president@...>
To: <dist-gen@...>; "Robert Boynton" <rctboynton@...>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject: RE: Emailing: 0,aid,107754,00
> The problem I found with closing the ports is my networked links no longer
> worked (which may not be a problem for you if you only have one computer)
> and in installing software and hardware. It was a pain to open the ports
> again (possible but three pages of instructions) to complete installs each
> time. So I left them open, have a router, use Adaware, delete cookies and
> not keep history of websites I visit. It doesn't prevent or stop all but
> does cut down.
> The main thing I do is notice which sites give me pop-ups or unders and
> avoid them like the plague they are!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dist-gen@...
> [mailto:owner-dist-gen@...]On Behalf Of Robert Boynton
> Sent: September 5, 2003 9:32 AM
> To: Dist-gen
> Subject: Emailing: 0,aid,107754,00
> Here is an article in PC World, which explains the new sneaky form of
> pop -ups and how to rid your self of them.
> Their method has worked for me for 24 hours.
> I believe it is done by closing port holes and the only concern I have is
> whether you are blocking something else of importance, although, this
> Your files are attached and ready to send with this message.
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