Re: [dsg] More on anatta
- Hi Sarah
I'm not very familiar yet with the Survey's chapter on Vipassana
bhavana, to which I was referring when writing about it, I just wanted
to point out the importance of being anatta :-)
The samma-ditthi factor of the Path spells out anatta very cleary, by
being panna itself and by being the opposite of miccha-ditthi, which
is directly connected with atta.
And since samma-magga, patipatti and satipatthana are one and the same
thing, some degree of 'anattaness' is required even before
vipassana-nana stages, right from the start of patipatti, and to be
acquired through pariyatti.
- Hi Sarah,
I didn't mean it differently. A concept of a person is based on 5
khandas, just like a concept of anything is based on 5 khandas.
Buddha has never denied conventional people and situations. The whole
sutta pitaka is testament to that. Just remember the conditioned,
impermanent, inconstant, stressful and Anatta nature of everything.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, sarah abbott
> Hi Alex & all,
> --- On Thu, 27/11/08, Alex <truth_aerator@...> wrote:
> A:> There IS a person named such and such, it is just that that
> anicca-dukkha- anatta.is
> "And which is the carrier of the burden? 'The person,' it should be
> said. This venerable one with such a name, such a clan-name. This
> called the carrier of the burden."html
> http://www.accessto insight.org/ tipitaka/ sn/sn22/sn22. 022.than.
> ....extract from one I wrote a long time ago:
> S: [See lots more on this under 'Burden' in U.P.]. Here's an
> >"Spk: Thus, by the expression 'the carrier of the burden,' he
> person to be a mere convention. For the person is called thecarrier of
> the burden because it 'picks up' the burden of the aggregates at theseating, and
> moment of rebirth, maintains the burden by bathing, feeding,
> laying them down during the course of life, and then discards themat the
> moment of death, only to take up another burden of aggregates at thethe other
> moment of rebirth."
> >S: I think we should read suttas like this in the context of all
> suttas in Khandhasa.myutta which stress again and again that theonly
> conditioned dhammas which exist at this very moment are the 5khandhas, no
> separate person.impermanent,
> >SN22:94 Flowers:
> "And what is it, bhikkhus, that the wise in the world agree upon as
> existing, of which I too say that it exists? Form that is
> suffering, and subject to change: this the wise in the world agreeupon as
> existing, and I too say that it exists.Feeling ...Perception...Volitional
> formations...Consciousness that is is impermanent, suffering, andsubject
> to change: this the wise in the world agree upon as existing, and Itoo
> say that it exists."