- too drunk too rmembr,
here's our fifth, to be 'shared equally between lay followers and novices
as invariable virtuous practices':
I undertake the training precept of abstention from any opportunity for
negligence due to liquor, wine, and besotting drink.
Suraamerayamajjappamaada.t.thaanaa verama.nii-sikkhaapada'm samaadiyaamai.
>>this is an abstention < 'from what is looked on askance (blamable) by
nature' since killing breathing things, etc., are always originated by
unprofitable cognizance >
it might still be argued that it's alright to inhale but not swallow:
Illustrator: << Any opportunity for negligence due to liquor, wine and
besotting drink: here as to 'liquor', there are five kinds of liquor:
flour liquor, cake liquor, rice liquor, that containing yeast, and that
mixed with condiments. Also, 'wine' is of five kinds: flower wine, fruit
wine, sugar wine, honey wine, and that mixed with condiments (Vin.iv,110).
Both these are 'besotting' (majja) in the sense of causing intoxication
(madaniiya); or alternatively, whatever else there is that causes
intoxication, by drinking which one becomes mad (matta) and negligent
(pamatta) is called 'besotting'. The 'opportunity for negligence'
(pamaada.t.thaana) is the choice by which one drinks, swallows. That is so
called since it is the cause for the [subsequent] vanity (madness) and
negligence (mada-ppamaada); consequently, what should be understood as the
'opportunity for negligence' is the choice in swallowing the liquor, wine
or besotting drink, as intent to swallow, which occurs in the body door >>.
still, whether it's excess to moderation or some other style, there's no
dwelling in the middle; once it's in your nose, it's moving on.
sugarandspice, gingerbreadman. be as stupid as you like. don't seek
approval or support for it, just believe in reckless ruin, intoxicantly
if there be purity in alcohol, show me your proof:
"Bhikkhus, there are these four stains because of which the sun and moon
do not glow, do not shine, are not radiant. What four? Rain clouds... snow
clouds... smoke and dust... an eclipse. In the same way, there are these
four stains because of which contemplatives and priests do not glow, do
not shine, are not radiant. What four? Drinking alcoholic beverages...
indulging in sexual intercourse... accepting gold and silver... obtaining
requisites through a wrong mode of livelihood." (A.IV.50)
just hospital grade white lightning desire, man, cheers,
- Hey, Support Group
sorry if i'm requoting, but for the case of the fifth precept, if we
aren't willing to swallow one thing, then, when conditions are right:
<< The fruits of abstention from the
opportunity-for-negligence-due-to-liquor-wine-and-besotting-drink are such
things as swift recognition of past, future and present tasks to be done,
constant establishment of mindfulness, freedom from madness, possession of
knowledge, non-procrastination, non-stupidity, non-drivellingness,
non-intoxication, non-negligence, non-confusion, non-timourousness,
non-presumption, unenviousness, truthfulness, freedom from malicious and
harsh speech and from gossip, freedom from dullness both night and day,
gratitude, gratefulness, unavariciousness, liberality, virtuousness,
rectitude, unangriness, possession of conscience, possession of shame,
rectitude of view, great understanding, wisdom, learnedness, skill in
[distinguishing] good from harm, and so on. >> Illustrator ii 46