Re: Bhante and Smiling was (Re: [dsg] Evil thoughts (Howard))
- Dhamma Greetings Ken O,
Do you understand that the critical mind is a part of dosa? There is no
need to be nasty! Just because you don't understand how soemthing can be
of benefit doesn't mean that it is not of benefit. Please lighten up!
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- Hi Bhante
I have not forgetten your question. Buddha never used this five
things very loosely. When Buddha talks about skillfulness in the
Koalamas what is about. A look at this sutta below will tell us that
on what basis these five terms should be based on wisdom (I dont
think there is a need for me to elaborate what is wisdom in Buddha
SN 35 Salayatanasamyutta).153 Is there a method
"there is a method of exposition by means by which a bhikkhu - apart
from faith...apart from acceptance of a view after pondering - can
declare final knowledge thus: 'Destroyed is birth...there is no more
for this state of being.' And what is that method of of exposition?
Here, bhikkhus, having seen a form with the eye, if there is lust,
hatred, or delusion internally, a bhikkhu understands: There is lust,
hatred or delusion internally'; or if there is no lust, hatred or
delusion internally, he understands: There is no lust, hatred or
delusion internally. Since this is so, are these things to be
understood by faith, or by personal perference or by oral tradition
by reasoned reflection or by acceptance of a view after pondering
"No venerable sir."
"Arent these things to be understood by seeing them with wisdom?"
"Yes venerable sir."
"this bhikkus is the method of exposition by means of which a bhikkhu
can declare final knowledge thus: 'Destroyed is birth...there is no
more for this state of being.'>>
Then again this five things is explore in MN 95 Canki Sutta, I am a
bit lazy to type it out all. When Buddha ask us to put faith on, the
basis is seen on this sutta
<<16. In that ways, Master Gotama, there is preservation of truth;
in that one perserves truth, in that way we recognise the
preservation of truth. But in what way, Master Gotama, is there
discovery of truth? In what way does one discover turth? We ask
Master Gotama about the discovery of truth."
18 When he investigated him [a venerable one] and has seen that he is
purified from based on greed, he next investigates him regard to
states based on hate....
<<20. When he has investigate him and has seen that he is puried
from states based on delusion, then he places faith in him;>>
B: The rest of the Kalama Sutta deals with the practice of the
> Brahma Viharas and this definitely deals with happiness andsmiling. Don't you agree?
k: Smiling and the four immeasurables are two different things.
And also before going into Brahma Viharas, the sutta mention <<the
noble discple -- devoid of covetuous, devoid of ill will, unconfused,
clearly comprehening, ever mindful.>> and also I did not see any
about smile to be used before or after Brahma Viharas. Where did you
get this smile method from? If you get it from somewhere in the
text, I admit I am wrong about this method and I apolgise, if not
please do not teach others about such wrong methods which cannot be
found anywhere in the text.
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