Re: [dsg] Re: Sutta and interpretation.
- Hi Victor,
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From: "yu_zhonghao" <yu_zhonghao@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:10 PM
Subject: [dsg] Re: Sutta and interpretation.
> Hi Sukin and all,
> Is excrement a concept or reality?
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Sukinderpal Singh Narula"
> <sukinder@k...> wrote:
> > moment moving in the right direction or not. But I think Right
> View and
> > the ability to distinguish between concept and reality is of
> > importance!
> > With metta,
> > Sukin.
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- Dear Larry,
op 19-10-2003 22:28 schreef LBIDD@... op LBIDD@...:
> It looks to me that discrimination of cause and effectN: I believe that cause and effect in conventional sense can be understood
> (dhamma and attha) concerns both paramattha dhammas and conventional
> realties, or, to put it another way, basic and complex arisings.
without learning the dhamma. When I look at the Vis 21 and at the Tiika I
see five items and these refer to paramattha dhammas. Vis 21 has: < But in
particular the five things, namely, (i) anything conditionally produced,(ii)
nibbana, (iii) the meaning of what is spoken, (iv) (kamma-)
result, and (v) functional (consciousness), should be understood as
But I agree that what is spoken (cause) and meaning that is understood
(meaning or outcome) is more complex.
When I studied before the meanings of dhamma and learnt that even pannatti
is dhamma, I was at first surprised. Now it is clearer. That what makes
known, which is one meaning of pannatti, is cause, *dhamma*, and what is
known is *meaning* in this sense.
We also learn that the four discriminations are for non-trainers, arahats,
and trainers, ariyans who are not arahat. Thus, it is not understanding of
cause and effect that is common to us ordinary people.