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RE: [dsg] attachment to concept

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  • Kom Tukovinit
    Dear Victor, Thank you for your helpful post, like usual. ... Of course, like any other sayings of the Buddhas, it is subject to interpretation fitting our own
    Message 1 of 123 , May 2, 2002
      Dear Victor,

      Thank you for your helpful post, like usual.

      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: yuzhonghao [mailto:victoryu@...]
      >
      > "And what is right view? Right view, I tell you,
      > is of two sorts:
      > There is right view with fermentations [asava],
      > siding with merit,
      > resulting in the acquisitions [of becoming]; and
      > there is noble right
      > view, without fermentations, transcendent, a
      > factor of the path.
      >
      > "And what is the right view that has
      > fermentations, sides with merit,
      > & results in acquisitions? 'There is what is
      > given, what is offered,
      > what is sacrificed. There are fruits & results of
      > good & bad actions.
      > There is this world & the next world. There is
      > mother & father. There
      > are spontaneously reborn beings; there are
      > priests & contemplatives
      > who, faring rightly & practicing rightly,
      > proclaim this world & the
      > next after having directly known & realized it
      > for themselves.' This
      > is the right view that has fermentations, sides
      > with merit, & results
      > in acquisitions.
      >
      > "And what is the right view that is without
      > fermentations,
      > transcendent, a factor of the path? The
      > discernment, the faculty of
      > discernment, the strength of discernment,
      > analysis of qualities as a
      > factor for Awakening, the path factor of right
      > view in one developing
      > the noble path whose mind is noble, whose mind is
      > free from
      > fermentations, who is fully possessed of the
      > noble path. This is the
      > right view that is without fermentations,
      > transcendent, a factor of
      > the path.
      >

      Of course, like any other sayings of the Buddhas, it is
      subject to interpretation fitting our own accumulations!

      kom
    • m. nease
      Hi Chris, ... From: christine_forsyth To: Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [dsg]
      Message 123 of 123 , Aug 10 2:53 PM
        Hi Chris,

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: christine_forsyth <cforsyth@...>
        To: <dhammastudygroup@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:33 PM
        Subject: Re: [dsg] Control


        > It is the fitting together of kamma and conditionality that seems to
        > be all there is ...

        Of course kamma is just one of the conditions--never mind 'all there
        is'--aren't we concerned with dukkha and the end of dukkha?

        > no-one to do the controlling - quite depressing
        > really.

        Not liberating?! I can't tell you how what a relief it is to know that
        sankhaarakhanda (e.g.) is not self...

        Cheers Mate,

        mike
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