Re: Question about Mahayana.
- Hi Lukas,
Thanks for joining in.
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>> KH: A person, for example, is not a momentary phenomenon, and to describe a personas anicca, dukkha or anatta would be of no help whatsoever.
> L: I think this is why Buddha taught Noble Truths.
KH: I agree. People already knew the kusala of detachment from concepts but, until the Buddha taught them, they didn't understand realities.
> L: The first one is The Five Khandhas of Upadana, the five khadndhas apt to be clung to are to be understood.Not a concept itself we cling to, but a realities. There is touch during the day, and tast and experiencings, different experiencings to be understood.
Clinging to ruupas, vedanas, sanna, sankhara and vinnana. Here not a concept of this or that or of a person.
KH: And the emphasis is on understanding. So it's not about trying to experience more realities and fewer concepts.
> L: If this is concept, I think, and not knowing anything on relities, this is not Noble at all. Just more and more ideas and clinging to the ideas. Not the Buddha teachings at all.------------------------
KH: At best it includes the kind of kusala that already existed before the Buddha taught.
- Hi Sarah.
--- In email@example.com, "sarah" <sarahprocterabbott@...> wrote:
> S: Better to just talk about realities, paramattha dhammas that can be understood now. I think this is more productive than discussions about formal meditation.
> This morning at breakfast, another swimmer started asking me about retreats and meditation because of stress issues. I just started talking about 'now', about seeing now, hearing now, 'meditation' now, even in the noisy cafe. Otherwise, there's always a thinking about another time, another place, never any understanding or awareness now. She appreciated it!
I continue to think this is a very "zen" approach to Dhamma - I think if you called it "zen" you'd probably convert a bunch of Mahayanists, as it is very appealing, and I agree really is the heart of becoming aware, which can only happen at this moment now.
A favorite quote of mine is sort of analogous in its simplicity, from the avant-garde saxaphonist/bass clarinetist Eric Dolphy, now deceased: "Music, after it's over, it's gone in the air - you can never capture it again."
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