Re: (Sukin) - and everyone else...
- Hi Tony,
> T: I feel like I am labouring a point and seem to be repeating the same explanation repeatedly. This must be irritating for you all. I will set out my stall as it were below in my reply to Sukin and I will gracefully back away.-------------
KH: I think you have accomplished at least one task that you had set out to accomplish. At Jon's invitation you have described the Mahayana Dhamma to our Theravada discussion group.
The moderators here encourage people from all backgrounds to take part. The only proviso is that discussions stay on topic (Theravada). So I hope you will continue to make contributions from your Mahayana perspective.
> T: Understanding of the Madhyamika Prasangika view is an extremely difficult one to understandand took me many years for it to click! I have found it to be utterly watertight
in terms of being irrefutable. I will of course still read all of your posts
with interest, but having seen the Ox I need to concentrate on catching it now
KH: I wonder why you prefer your understanding to ours. In which way is yours better?
Consider the nutshell summary I gave in my previous post (that there are only dhammas and all other things that seem to exist -- including ourselves are just ideas conceived by dhammas).
What is wrong with that explanation? Why doesn't it inspire you deeply and satisfy your need to know the way things truly are?
- Hi Sarah.
--- In email@example.com, "sarah" <sarahprocterabbott@...> wrote:
> S: Better to just talk about realities, paramattha dhammas that can be understood now. I think this is more productive than discussions about formal meditation.
> This morning at breakfast, another swimmer started asking me about retreats and meditation because of stress issues. I just started talking about 'now', about seeing now, hearing now, 'meditation' now, even in the noisy cafe. Otherwise, there's always a thinking about another time, another place, never any understanding or awareness now. She appreciated it!
I continue to think this is a very "zen" approach to Dhamma - I think if you called it "zen" you'd probably convert a bunch of Mahayanists, as it is very appealing, and I agree really is the heart of becoming aware, which can only happen at this moment now.
A favorite quote of mine is sort of analogous in its simplicity, from the avant-garde saxaphonist/bass clarinetist Eric Dolphy, now deceased: "Music, after it's over, it's gone in the air - you can never capture it again."
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