[dsg] Re: Vietnam 1
- Dear Sarah, all,
>S: What is effort, viriya? Is it a conditioned mental factor or is >it a Self?It is anatta and fully conditioned. But if it is not produced, it doesn't arise.
> >A: Eradication of self view starts (as appears in the suttas) with dana and other ethical qualities. Jataka tales are an example. I am yet to find a Jataka where Bodhisatta started with reading books.Preliminary path seems to start with Dana and other merit making things. N8P comes later.
> S: Is the first factor of the 8-fold path dana or samma ditthi?
>Can there be a beginning of the path which leads to the eradication >of self view without an understanding of seeing, visible object, >attachment and thinking?True understanding requires lots of factors. Merely thinking and reading is not enough. IMHO.
- Dear Sarah,
>S: Before, you wrote "it is anatta and fully conditioned. but if it is >not produced, it doesn't arise."Produced = arisen due to causes for it to arise.
>What did this mean? What is the difference between 'conditioned' and >'produced'?
With best wishes,