23241Re: [dsg] Inquiry to Nina... for Victor
- Jul 2, 2003--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "yu_zhonghao"
> Hi Azita,can
> Calm and peacefulness are wholesome, skillful qualities that one
> see for oneself.Dear Victor,
I'm not as certain as you that calm and peacefulness are
necessarily wholesome, they can be but unless there is the wisdom to
really know at the time, they can also be unwholesome, just subtle
pleasant feeling, lobha.
> Regarding 'wrong practice', what 'wrong practice' are you referingIn relation to what I've just previously stated, I believe that
unless Panna is developed to the stage of knowing what is right and
wrong practice, then there always is the danger of taking akusala for
kusala. For example, if during meditation, I feel really calm and
peaceful, I don't know for sure if that's the calm of samatha or just
good ole' Lobha. Now, if Panna arose then Panna would know. I'll
bet its good ole Lobha.
> And regarding the question: why can't Nibbana be object of clinging?I had to think hard about this one, Victor. You are saying that
> I would reply with a rhetorical question:
> How can an object of clinging, fabricated, impermanent, dukkha, be
> the cessation of dukkha, unborn, unmade, unfabricated, unbecome?
> Your comment is appreciated.
an object that is clung to cannot be the cessation of clinging, right?
I agree bec. Nibbana can only be experienced by wholesome cetasikas,
but afterwards when there is thinking about Nibbana, can it not then
be 'desired'? Can it not then be an object of clinging?
Looking forward to your, or anyone's, comment on this.
patience, courage and good cheer,
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