127547Re: [dsg] Macchariya (2)
- Nov 1, 2012Dear Nina,
N: I think that it is not macchariya alone. He is comparing: why not to me? This shows conceit. Also a lot of ignorance. Ignorance is very dangerous. And wrong view: he took his practice for self: see, I am practising in this way.
Han: The role of macchariya was at the time of Kassapa Buddha, when Jambuka was a monk and reviled the visiting monk out of jealousy. Not during his last life.
What he was doing and what happened to him during the time of Gautama Buddha was exactly as what you have said.
One accumulation of kusala that helped him in attaining Arahantship was his meditation practice for twenty thousand years before he committed those evil deeds against the visiting monk out of jealousy.
No, not thinking of stories or speculating. The Buddha taught him the standard formula of "gradual training" of six kathaas, i.e. daana kathaa, sillaa kathaa and so on.
with metta and respect,
--- On Thu, 11/1/12, Nina van Gorkom <vangorko@...> wrote:
Thank you for this series. I could add something.
Op 31-okt-2012, om 20:51 heeft han tun het volgende geschreven:
> As for me, even though I have I practised austerely for fifty-five
> years, living only on air and standing only on one leg, none of the
> devas, nor Sakka, nor Mahabrahma has ever came to me
N: I think that it is not macchariya alone. He is comparing: why not
to me? This shows conceit. Also a lot of ignorance. Ignorance is very
dangerous. And wrong view: he took his practice for self: see, I am
practising in this way.
Then the Buddha preached to him and he knew the right words so that
Jambuka could be aware of naama and ruupa even while listening. Only
in that way he could become an arahat.
The details about the vipassanaa ~naa.nas he had to attain are not
mentioned in the sutta, but it is good we also have the Abhidhamma
and the commentaries. Otherwise we would not understand how he could
attain arahatship by just listening once. It shows that he must have
had accumulated understanding during countless lives. This is
referred to in the commentary to the Theratheriigatha, for example in
Theriigatha, LXXIII, Sumedhaa: <She too, having made her resolve
under former Buddhas, and heaping up good of age-enduring efficacy
thoroughly preparing the conditions of emancipation...>
Thus, age-enduring, for kappas or aeons. Thoroughly preparing: being
aware over and over again, developing understanding of the present
object. It has to be the present one. Not thinking of stories or
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