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RE: [dglist] MJ12 on the outs?

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  • Rayburn, Russell E.
    ... From: JAY DUGGER [mailto:duggerj1@charter.net] What part of the government do you work for, anyway? Don t you know all the interesting work s in the
    Message 1 of 6 , Aug 3, 2003
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: JAY DUGGER [mailto:duggerj1@...]
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      What part of the government do you work for, anyway? Don't
      you know all the interesting work's in the private sector
      nowadays?
      </snip>

      LOL! Actually in local government, so way way way out of the MIE loop.
    • JAY DUGGER
      On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 14:37:09 -0400 ... If you re out of the loop, this won t make it back to the boss or the shop steward. Watch the news for more hints of the
      Message 2 of 6 , Aug 3, 2003
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        On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 14:37:09 -0400
        "Rayburn, Russell E." <RERayburn@...> wrote:
        >-----Original Message-----
        >From: JAY DUGGER [mailto:duggerj1@...]
        ><snip>
        >What part of the government do you work for, anyway?
        >Don't
        >you know all the interesting work's in the private sector
        >nowadays?
        ></snip>
        >
        >LOL! Actually in local government, so way way way out of
        >the MIE loop.
        >

        If you're out of the loop, this won't make it back to the
        boss or the shop steward.

        Watch the news for more hints of the on-going struggle
        between the more transhumanist elements of MJ-12 and the
        reactionary neo-cons that came in last [FNORD]. Robin
        Hanson's idea futures didn't make it past the public.
        That's alright; we have more arrows in the quiver. If I
        had a little more blackmail on my handler, I might be able
        to get some duplicates for a couple of

        [579 WORDS REDACTED BY ORDER OF F.A.I./C.M.]
        [ve are super-intelligent; trust us]

        because coups never go out of style. The chance of
        convincing any right-minded extrope that the Seventh
        International Column would do a better a job is trivial,
        "and left as an exercise for the reader."



        ObDG: The possibilites of a MAJESTIC-based campaign never
        get enough ink, despite having more text devoted to them
        than to D.G. in DG-CD. Consider the following.

        Did Majestic attempt (or prevent) a coup in the early
        1960's?

        Did P Division involve itself with the 1930's plot to
        seize the White House?

        What links exist between:
        the Jason Group and MJ-12?
        the Jason Group and transhumanist groups?

        (Just in case the earlier explanation about these
        didn't make it, just google for it.)

        MJ-12 and transhumanist groups?
        MJ-12 and secret American space programs?
        secret space programs, American and Soviet?

        How much resistance to mission creep and drift of purpose
        does MAJESTIC enjoy? Does your answer seem plausible? Does
        it make dramatic sense?


        Conclusion

        Look at your answers, and consider what role-playing
        system best reproduces them. Explain why. If you have
        trouble, go and learn another system. Then reconsider. As
        an example, my role as a triple agent for Berkshire
        Hathaway, the Posthuman International Group, and [FNORD]
        is probably best captured by either Rolemaster, Over the
        Edge, or Toon. Your mileage may vary.

        Jay Dugger : Til Eulenspiegel
        http://www.vibepusher.com/~jdugger
        If ECHELON reads DGML, it must understand "fiction."
      • Professor Pan
        Just a quick Inman anecdote: Years ago (mid-late 90s) I was involved with a civilian UFO group in Maryland. One of the members was a guy named Bob Oechsler. He
        Message 3 of 6 , Aug 4, 2003
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          Just a quick Inman anecdote:

          Years ago (mid-late 90s) I was involved with a civilian UFO group in
          Maryland. One of the members was a guy named Bob Oechsler. He
          approached Bobby Ray Inman with a tape recorder and asked him about
          "recovered vehicles." Oechsler paraded the tape around in Ufological
          circles claiming it proved Inman spoke about the reality of UFOs and a
          government coverup.

          Problem is, Oechsler never brought up UFOs in the conversation. But the
          anecdote was published in Timothy Good's "Cosmic Journey" as proof of
          Inman's admission of the government coverup.

          I never trusted Oechsler -- he seemed shady and dishonest. He also
          claimed that NASA scientists took him (blindfolded, of course) to a
          base somewhere in Florida where he experienced a zero-g chamber. He
          also is the source of the highly dubious "Guardian" UFO tape, which
          reeks of fraud and as silly as the "alien autopsy" footage.

          Of course he is most likely an MJ12 disinfo specialist sowing discord
          in the UFO community ;-)

          More on the saga can be found at the link below. For what it's worth,
          I've found that archives of early UFO bulletin boards are great fodder
          for game ideas and for red herrings.

          PP

          http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/1997/feb/m22-004.shtml

          On Friday, August 1, 2003, at 11:36 AM, frankfreyiii wrote:

          > Greetings,
          >
          > Poindexter may be out but Rear Admiral Bobby "Black Ops" Inman is
          > still in charge of the Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena. Overall,
          > though, it seems to me that MJ-12 and the whole Delta Green setting
          > could use some updating.
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