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  • loohon
    Less incoherence, please. Who is PAS? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAS If you have something to communicate, then communicate in such a fashion that readers
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      Less incoherence, please. Who is PAS?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAS
      If you have something to communicate, then communicate in such a fashion that readers have some clue what you're talking about.

      --- In destroy_evil@yahoogroups.com, chiayj <chiayj@...> wrote:
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      > Hi
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      > A synopsis of Islamic history....the bad part and, to more extent, meant
      > for political domination over women then! Again! there is no God in this universe--reference to Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking.... Dr
      > Tawfik Hamid have to publish the GOOD part of Islamic teaching.
      > Otherwise, it is very unfair to the humble Muslims who practice good
      > humanity! e.g go and observe PAS president..how he lives...
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      > New migrants... "We Muslims have to change", says Dr Tawfik Hamid...
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      >  Interesting reading
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      > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 Subject:
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      > "We Muslims have to change", says Dr Tawfik Hamid...
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      > One lone sane voice in the wilderness...........
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      > I am currently reading a biography of Prophet Muhammad and I must say I am not impressed with him.
      >  
      > 1) First he married at the age of 25, a very much older Khadijah who was
      > actually his employer.  She employed him to go and do some business for
      > her and was impressed that he managed to get good profits so she
      > proposed to him.
      >  
      > 2) During his marriage to Khadijah, he did not marry anyone else but
      > impregnated one of his slaves, who bore one son to him, Ibrahim
      > In the book it says it was common practice for
      > them to own slaves; have relations with them but do not acknowledge them as wives or
      > mistresses.  Children however were recognised.
      > The question is how many slaves did he have - basically how many women was he sleeping with but claiming he had only 1 wife?
      >  
      > 3) Then when Khadijah died , he was 50 then (Khadijah 65) yet a FEW DAYS
      > LATER married someone called Sowda / Saedah  (sorry I forget the name)
      > The following year he married Aisha who was all of 6 years old but he is praised in the book that he did not consummate
      > the marriage until she was 9 years old.  He was 54 - old enough to be
      > her grandfather!  
      >  
      > Over the following years, he married again and again.  He had a total of 13 wives, 9 of whom were still alive when he died.
      >  
      > Of all 13 wives, Aisha was the only virgin.  
      >  
      > One of them was also the divorced wife of his adopted son.  The book says
      > Allah wanted to prove that Islam does not recognise adoption.  So the
      > person who Muhammad treated as his adopted son - was not so in Islam.
      >  To prove it, M could even marry the divorced "daughter-in-law"
      >  
      > If this is not perverted, what is?
      >  
      > Yet Muslims are limited to only 4 wives.  According to the book, Muhammad was allowed to have more.
      >  
      > 4) He did not provide for his wives.  Aisha is quoted as saying that
      > sometimes for as long as 3  months, the fire for cooking would not be
      > lit in the house.  What did they eat?  Dates and water!!
      >  
      >  
      > 5) How did they get people to accept religion?  Not by preaching or teaching them how to lead good lives but by war
      > M was a war-mongerer.  He approached tribe after tribe and threatened to kill them if they did not agree to follow Islam.
      > With his army of soldiers, they roamed the desert looking for easy prey
      >  
      > 6) Ka'aba was not built by him.  It was actually built by Abraham (of the Bible fame) but by the time of Muhammad,
      > people were praying to idols there.
      > If it existed long before M was preaching his brand of religion  - how can it be  a religious symbol for Islam?
      >  
      > Ka'aba belongs to the Jews (Abraham was a Jew), not Muslims
      >  
      > 7) There is constant reference to   INFIDELS, those who were praying to Idols, etc
      > These people were scorned / threatened
      >  
      > When they say Islam is a religion of peace.............I am sorry I do not buy this.  
      >  
      > It is more a religion of hate, non acceptance of anyone else's right to choose their religion / way of life
      >  
      > 8) And the Allah issue.  All these people living at that time - Jews, infidels, Muslims referred to God as ALLAH
      > There was no issue with anyone using the word ALLAH when referring to the Supreme !
      > But suddenly in Malaysia, ALLAH is a muslim God
      >  
      >  
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      > God help us
      >  
      > "We Muslims have to change", says Dr Tawfik Hamid 
      > >>> 
      > >>>I was born a Muslim and lived all my life as a follower ofIslam.
      > >>>   
      > >>>After the barbaric terrorist attacks done by the hands of my fellow Muslims
      > everywhere on the globe, and after the too many violent acts by
      > Islamists in many parts of  the world, I feel responsible as a Muslim
      > and as a human being, to  speak out and tell the truth to protect the
      > world and Muslims as well from a coming catastrophe and war of
      > civilizations.
      > >>>   
      > >>>I have to admit that our current Islamic teaching creates violence and hatred toward Non-Muslims. We Muslims are
      > >>>the ones who need to change. Until now we have accepted polygamy, the beating of women by men, and killing those who convert from Islam to other religions.
      > >>>   
      > >>>We have never had a clear and strong stand against the concept of slavery or wars, to spread our religion and to
      > >>>subjugate others to Islam and force them to pay a humiliating tax called Jizia. We ask others to respect our religion
      > >>>while all the time we curse non-Muslims loudly (in Arabic) in our Friday prayers in the mosques.
      > >>>   
      > >>>What message do we convey to our children when we call the Jews “Descendants of the pigs and monkeys”Is this a
      > >>>message of love and peace, or a message of hate?
      > >>>     
      > >>>I have been into churches and synagogues where they were praying for Muslims. While all the time we curse them,
      > >>>and teach our generations to call them infidels, and to hate them.
      > >>>    
      > >>>We immediately jump in a “knee jerk reflex” to defend Prophet Mohammad when someone accuses him of being a
      > >>>paedophile while, at the same time, we are proud with the story in our Islamic books, that he married a young girl
      > >>>seven years old (Aisha) when he was above 50 yearsold.
      > >>>    
      > >>>I am sad to say that many, if not most of us, rejoiced in happiness after September 11th andafter many
      > >>>other terror attacks.
      > >>>    
      > >>>Muslims denounce these attacks to look good in front of the media, but we condone the Islamic terroristsand
      > >>>sympathise with their cause. Till now our “reputable” top religious authorities have never issued a Fatwaor
      > >>>religious statement to proclaim Bin Laden as an apostate, while an author, like Rushdie, was declared anapostate
      > >>>who should be killed according to Islamic Sharia law just for writing a book criticizingIslam.
      > >>>         
      > >>>Muslims demonstrated to get more religious rights as we did in France to stop the ban on the Hejab(head scarf),
      > >>>while we did not demonstrate with such passion and in such numbers against the terrorist murders.
      > >>>    
      > >>>It is our absolute silence against the terrorists that gives the energy to these terrorists to continuedoing
      > >>>their evil acts. We Muslims need to stop blaming our problems on others or on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
      > >>>As a matter of honesty, Israel is the only light of democracy, civilization, and human rights in the whole Middle East.
      > >>>    
      > >>>We kicked out the Jews with no compensation or mercy from most of the Arab countries to makethem
      > >>>“Jews-Free countries”  while Israel accepted more than a million Arabs to live there, have its nationality, and
      > >>>enjoy their rights as human beings. In Israel, women can not be beaten legally by men, and any person can change
      > >>>his/her belief system with no fear of being killed by the Islamic law of apostasy, while in our Islamic world people
      > >>>do not enjoy any of these rights. I agree that the “Palestinians” suffer, but they suffer because of their corrupt
      > >>>leaders and not because of Israel.
      > >>>     
      > >>>It is not common to see Arabs who live in Israel leaving to live in the Arab world. On the other hand, we used
      > >>>to see thousands of Palestinians going to work with happiness in Israel, its ‘enemy’. If Israel treats Arabs badly
      > >>>as some people claim, surely we would have seen the oppositehappening.
      > >>>    
      > >>>We Muslims need to admit our problems and face them. Only then we can treat them and start a new era to live
      > >>> in harmony with human mankind. Our religious leaders have to show a clear and very strong stand against
      > >>>polygamy, paedophilia, slavery, killing those who convert from Islam to other religions, beating of women by
      > >>>men, and declaring wars on non-Muslims to spreadIslam.
      > >>>     
      > >>>Then, and only then, do we have the right to ask others to respect our religion. The time has come to stop
      > >>>our hypocrisy and say it openly: “We Muslims have to change”.
      > >>>     
      > >>>About the Author
      > >>> 
      > >>> Error! Filename not specified.  
      > >>>Dr. Tawfik Hamid is an Islamic thinker and reformer who at one time was an Islamic Extremist from Egypt.  
      > >>>He was a member of a terrorist Islamic organization Jamaa Islamiya with Dr. Ayman Al-Zawahiri, who later
      > >>>became the second in command ofAl-Qaeda.
      > >>>   
      > >>>Dr. Hamid, who is also known as Tarek Abdelhamid, has a medical degree in Internal Medicine and a
      > >>>Master’s Degree in Cognitive Psychology and Educational Techniques.
      > >>>   
      > >>>Currently Dr. Hamid is a Senior Fellow at the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies and President of the
      > >>>Global Movement Against Radical Islam. Dr. Hamid is also the author of InsideJihad.
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