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  • benaresdt
    Hey guys! So, Loohan hassled me so much that I figured it s time I finally joined this dang forum. I m John, the Arcturian friend. I hope we can all be of some
    Message 1 of 13 , May 1, 2008
      Hey guys!

      So, Loohan hassled me so much that I figured it's time I finally
      joined this dang forum. I'm John, the Arcturian friend. I hope we can
      all be of some assistance to each other :)

      Right now, these damned Mantises are frying me off and on. The
      energetic attacks are bad, because they are from such a high
      dimension, that I can't feel them. The tiara is better than it was.. I
      think I've got it held at a point where the mantis telepaths can't
      break through. I think that even with P's knowledge of programming,
      sometimes he can hurt it more than help it because he can't see the
      full multidimensionality of it.

      Anyway, Cora is being the public relationist again. She has agreed to
      give out the tiaras as well as another set I just got. This set is
      basically the rest of the chakra set that goes along with the tiara.
      Apparently, I can give all of this junk out because I had a hand in
      making it, somehow.

      I'll get around to writing more at a later time. I have a lot of intel
      on the mantises, etc. I think that they really are the big threat at
      this time. The cluster of mantises+ seems to be pretty much done away
      with, for now, but the mantises are hitting hard. I'm beating on a
      large hive of them right now. Hmm.. I've never tried this before, but
      to anyone that can feel it, I'm putting the coordinates into this word
      *HERE*. Just point your devices in that area, if you're feelin'
      froggie. This seems to be a big mantis hideout, so even after they are
      cleaned once, I'm sure they will be back.

      Love and light.. yeah, I said "love"!
      John
    • prophageus
      ... Not anymore. ;) Proph
      Message 2 of 13 , May 1, 2008
        > *HERE*.

        Not anymore. ;)

        Proph
      • Harold
        I ve learned to leave a little virus (of sorts) for any returnees or re-enforcements to a target spot. Just yesterday, I was given more details about a
        Message 3 of 13 , May 1, 2008
          I've learned to leave a little virus (of sorts) for
          any returnees or re-enforcements to a target spot.

          Just yesterday, I was given more details about a
          dark-evolved linear spiral of dimensions, there (most
          likely) being the source of your higher dimensional
          attackers. I was told that my worst psi enemy was in
          the dark 7D. My information before this point has been
          that there is no dark/evil after the 6D, but that is
          our 6D, and the parallel dimensions that are
          accessible to us by moving horizontally. If we're not
          aware of that dark spiral, it makes sense how they can
          hide so easily and do guerrilla warfare on us.


          --- benaresdt <benaresdt@...> wrote:

          > This seems to be a big mantis hideout, so
          > even after they are
          > cleaned once, I'm sure they will be back.
          >
          > Love and light.. yeah, I said "love"! John


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        • loohon
          Not any more. Or, at least, i think i bagged it. Some kinda reptoid. You want i should put him in a jar on your dining room table?
          Message 4 of 13 , May 1, 2008
            Not any more. Or, at least, i think i bagged it. Some kinda reptoid.
            You want i should put him in a jar on your dining room table?

            --- In destroy_evil@yahoogroups.com, Harold <me_harold@...> wrote:
            >
            > I was told that my worst psi enemy was in
            > the dark 7D.
          • Harold
            That s very large of you! So in essence, you were able to confirm that such a dark-evolved domain does exist. No, I don t want him on my dinner table. Can you
            Message 5 of 13 , May 1, 2008
              That's very large of you! So in essence, you were
              able to confirm that such a dark-evolved domain does
              exist. No, I don't want him on my dinner table. Can
              you send him back to his dark creator? That should fix
              his bow tie for the final show ... Thank you.


              --- loohon <dogwood57@...> wrote:

              > Not any more. Or, at least, i think i bagged it.
              > Some kinda reptoid.
              > You want i should put him in a jar on your dining
              > room table?
              >
              > --- In destroy_evil@yahoogroups.com, Harold
              > <me_harold@...> wrote:
              > >
              > > I was told that my worst psi enemy was in
              > > the dark 7D.

              "Ramming speed!" Captain Nemo


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            • loohon
              Actually, i just vacuumed her up from wherever she was. But i dowse something 8D about her, not 7D. I think she really would like to join you for dinner n
              Message 6 of 13 , May 2, 2008
                Actually, i just vacuumed her up from wherever she was. But i dowse
                something 8D about her, not 7D.

                I think she really would like to join you for dinner 'n drinks n' stuff...

                --- In destroy_evil@yahoogroups.com, Harold <me_harold@...> wrote:
                >
                > That's very large of you! So in essence, you were
                > able to confirm that such a dark-evolved domain does
                > exist. No, I don't want him on my dinner table. Can
                > you send him back to his dark creator? That should fix
                > his bow tie for the final show ... Thank you.
                >
                >
                > --- loohon <dogwood57@...> wrote:
                >
                > > Not any more. Or, at least, i think i bagged it.
                > > Some kinda reptoid.
                > > You want i should put him in a jar on your dining
                > > room table?
                > >
                > > --- In destroy_evil@yahoogroups.com, Harold
                > > <me_harold@> wrote:
                > > >
                > > > I was told that my worst psi enemy was in
                > > > the dark 7D.
                >
                > "Ramming speed!" Captain Nemo
                >
                >
                >
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              • benaresdt
                Yeah, I have noticed that weird 6D pinch. However, I know that most greys hand around 10-12D, and these Mantises seem to be 12-14D. I also get that Dracs and
                Message 7 of 13 , May 2, 2008
                  Yeah, I have noticed that weird 6D pinch. However, I know that most
                  greys hand around 10-12D, and these Mantises seem to be 12-14D. I also
                  get that Dracs and most Reps are about 5D (which is why the 6d spiral
                  shit can be directly applied to them, because they can be attacking us
                  from an "alternate" 5D, the octopi are 7Dish, Pleadians 9D, Arcs 8D,
                  Spiders 5D.

                  The dimensions above 6D confuse me, besides 8D, which I know is sound.

                  --- In destroy_evil@yahoogroups.com, "loohon" <dogwood57@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Actually, i just vacuumed her up from wherever she was. But i dowse
                  > something 8D about her, not 7D.
                  >
                  > I think she really would like to join you for dinner 'n drinks n'
                  stuff...
                  >
                  > --- In destroy_evil@yahoogroups.com, Harold <me_harold@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > That's very large of you! So in essence, you were
                  > > able to confirm that such a dark-evolved domain does
                  > > exist. No, I don't want him on my dinner table. Can
                  > > you send him back to his dark creator? That should fix
                  > > his bow tie for the final show ... Thank you.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > --- loohon <dogwood57@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > > Not any more. Or, at least, i think i bagged it.
                  > > > Some kinda reptoid.
                  > > > You want i should put him in a jar on your dining
                  > > > room table?
                  > > >
                  > > > --- In destroy_evil@yahoogroups.com, Harold
                  > > > <me_harold@> wrote:
                  > > > >
                  > > > > I was told that my worst psi enemy was in
                  > > > > the dark 7D.
                  > >
                  > > "Ramming speed!" Captain Nemo
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
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                • Harold
                  OK, but I think it s imperative that we let others know (the others that aren t quite getting at these details), that we are speaking of a dark-evolved
                  Message 8 of 13 , May 3, 2008
                    OK, but I think it's imperative that we let others
                    know (the others that aren't quite getting at these
                    details), that we are speaking of a dark-evolved
                    dimensional spiral and NOT the lineal dimensional
                    existence that we are evolving in AND learning to take
                    control of.

                    Part of our taking control of our own existence from
                    the bad critters here, involves knowing about the
                    other existences that can overlay onto/into ours, and
                    to be able to also get bad critters from there out of
                    our mix. At some point, I would think that all of the
                    bad critters, no matter where they call home,
                    can-and-will gang up on us. I think that we are that
                    much of a prize for all of them to target us, but that
                    also can suggest that we are ultimately more powerful
                    than the lot of them. It's like we are our own bait to
                    sucker in the ones who seek to destroy our reality and
                    capture our consciousness' in the process.

                    That's a tenuous position to be operating from, but
                    (in a fashion that I find it difficult to explain just
                    now) it does seem to open us up to a plethora of
                    resources and creativity, which we need to utilize to
                    the fullest. Using our access to that vast opening is
                    exactly what the bad guys are hiding from us, because
                    the more we get experience in a wider variety of ways
                    of thinking and existing, that is all the more
                    innately creative talents which come into our eatheric
                    abilities.

                    Being in this vulnerable and tenuous position of
                    course opens us up to a plethora of various attacks
                    from various agendas, so we need to be multi-faceted
                    in our work.

                    We have to be creative beyond our previous personal
                    boundaries because all of our regular avenues of human
                    response have been calculated beyond our recognition,
                    and we can easily be scuttled into dimensional and
                    consciousness traps, i.e. religions, new age, mass
                    marketed distractions, etc.

                    The destruction of our our reality will cascade into
                    many layers of existence and that suggests that there
                    are plenty of good guys in those existences that are
                    inspired to see us succeed. Our reptile dept of state
                    has put Americans in prison for 'negotiating with a
                    foreign power', so tread carefully when you speak of
                    such matters.

                    As you say that the 7Ddark critter that you found on
                    my case has an 8D connection: I see that things
                    (thought forms etc) can be created in a higher
                    dimension and targeted into a lower dimension, and
                    that the lower dimensional concoction can target
                    something yet lower in vibratory existence. It is like
                    a shielding effect, so the real culprit can hide
                    behind layers of thought forms, and/or dimensions.

                    Harold


                    --- benaresdt <benaresdt@> wrote:
                    > Yeah, I have noticed that weird 6D pinch. However, I
                    know that most greys hang around 10-12D, and these
                    Mantises seem to be 12-14D. I also get that Dracs and
                    most Reps are about 5D (which is why the 6d spiral
                    shit can be directly applied to them, because they can
                    be attacking us from an "alternate" 5D, the octopi are
                    7Dish, Pleadians 9D, Arcs 8D, Spiders 5D.
                    > The dimensions above 6D confuse me, besides 8D,
                    which I know is sound.

                    > --- "loohon" <dogwood57@> wrote:> >
                    > > Actually, i just vacuumed her up from wherever she
                    was. But i dowse something 8D about her, not 7D.



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                  • benaresdt
                    What you are talking about though is what I m seeing as the different universes in some form. I share Loohan s impression that we, in this universe, are
                    Message 9 of 13 , May 6, 2008
                      What you are talking about though is what I'm seeing as the different
                      universes in some form. I share Loohan's impression that we, in this
                      universe, are actually one of the "dark evolved" ones. A la Earth
                      moon, etc. What I'm getting at, though, is that a certain level (I
                      figure 8-9d) the universes don't have as much "hold" on keeping any
                      being that high up in a certain evolved dimensional space. The reps,
                      for example, have to "break over" from other universes if we wipe them
                      all out here, where as I get the impression that the (strongest) grays
                      can just move horizontally to this universe.

                      Are we talking about the same thing, here?

                      --- In destroy_evil@yahoogroups.com, Harold <me_harold@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > OK, but I think it's imperative that we let others
                      > know (the others that aren't quite getting at these
                      > details), that we are speaking of a dark-evolved
                      > dimensional spiral and NOT the lineal dimensional
                      > existence that we are evolving in AND learning to take
                      > control of.
                      >
                      > Part of our taking control of our own existence from
                      > the bad critters here, involves knowing about the
                      > other existences that can overlay onto/into ours, and
                      > to be able to also get bad critters from there out of
                      > our mix. At some point, I would think that all of the
                      > bad critters, no matter where they call home,
                      > can-and-will gang up on us. I think that we are that
                      > much of a prize for all of them to target us, but that
                      > also can suggest that we are ultimately more powerful
                      > than the lot of them. It's like we are our own bait to
                      > sucker in the ones who seek to destroy our reality and
                      > capture our consciousness' in the process.
                      >
                      > That's a tenuous position to be operating from, but
                      > (in a fashion that I find it difficult to explain just
                      > now) it does seem to open us up to a plethora of
                      > resources and creativity, which we need to utilize to
                      > the fullest. Using our access to that vast opening is
                      > exactly what the bad guys are hiding from us, because
                      > the more we get experience in a wider variety of ways
                      > of thinking and existing, that is all the more
                      > innately creative talents which come into our eatheric
                      > abilities.
                      >
                      > Being in this vulnerable and tenuous position of
                      > course opens us up to a plethora of various attacks
                      > from various agendas, so we need to be multi-faceted
                      > in our work.
                      >
                      > We have to be creative beyond our previous personal
                      > boundaries because all of our regular avenues of human
                      > response have been calculated beyond our recognition,
                      > and we can easily be scuttled into dimensional and
                      > consciousness traps, i.e. religions, new age, mass
                      > marketed distractions, etc.
                      >
                      > The destruction of our our reality will cascade into
                      > many layers of existence and that suggests that there
                      > are plenty of good guys in those existences that are
                      > inspired to see us succeed. Our reptile dept of state
                      > has put Americans in prison for 'negotiating with a
                      > foreign power', so tread carefully when you speak of
                      > such matters.
                      >
                      > As you say that the 7Ddark critter that you found on
                      > my case has an 8D connection: I see that things
                      > (thought forms etc) can be created in a higher
                      > dimension and targeted into a lower dimension, and
                      > that the lower dimensional concoction can target
                      > something yet lower in vibratory existence. It is like
                      > a shielding effect, so the real culprit can hide
                      > behind layers of thought forms, and/or dimensions.
                      >
                      > Harold
                      >
                      >
                      > --- benaresdt <benaresdt@> wrote:
                      > > Yeah, I have noticed that weird 6D pinch. However, I
                      > know that most greys hang around 10-12D, and these
                      > Mantises seem to be 12-14D. I also get that Dracs and
                      > most Reps are about 5D (which is why the 6d spiral
                      > shit can be directly applied to them, because they can
                      > be attacking us from an "alternate" 5D, the octopi are
                      > 7Dish, Pleadians 9D, Arcs 8D, Spiders 5D.
                      > > The dimensions above 6D confuse me, besides 8D,
                      > which I know is sound.
                      >
                      > > --- "loohon" <dogwood57@> wrote:> >
                      > > > Actually, i just vacuumed her up from wherever she
                      > was. But i dowse something 8D about her, not 7D.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
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                    • Harold
                      I appreciate your wanting clarification on the way I get at things. As Bohm and Bors and the quantum guys said (Bohm I think), that no one has the complete
                      Message 10 of 13 , May 6, 2008
                        I appreciate your wanting clarification on the way I
                        get at things. As Bohm and Bors and the quantum guys
                        said (Bohm I think), that no one has the complete
                        picture/(theory), and that it's valid to take pieces
                        of everyone's view (on quantum mechanics) to construct
                        something closer to the truth. Somehow I have
                        confidence that you won't let yourself stumble or
                        stall on your activities if anything I may say goes
                        awry from your views and techniques.

                        Per this thread, I've spent a little time looking at
                        this issue(s). I have found a very few instances of
                        visits from a physically different universe(s),
                        universes that have seemingly uncountable galaxies.
                        Loohan confirmed one visit that I told him of, but
                        that's about it. There are some 6D souls from a
                        neighboring universe (not parallel) that I know of
                        that are here for the 'project', but they have 3D bods
                        here as we do.

                        I don't get that the reps get here from another
                        complete universe but that they can slide here (sort
                        of) horizontally from a parallel existence, BUT they
                        are originally from the other side of our galaxy in
                        this timeline/parallel.
                        For the greys, I get that they move sideways into
                        parallels also, but that they are also in another far
                        off universe. The ones here are related to them from
                        long ago, but they don't travel to&fro.
                        Dowse to our universe-being (or whoever that
                        critter/creator is) and he/she says that no bad
                        critter from another universe has ever been allowed to
                        cross into here. Now parallel existence/(universe),
                        yes, but still within this physical universe.

                        A psychic and her higher dimensional friend clued me
                        in about the parallel existence that has higher dark
                        dimensions than we do here. I get that they don't
                        really astral travel here very often. I get that some
                        old wizard that I know had gone their and ruffled some
                        feathers, and now he and his contacts are followed and
                        harassed. I don't think that they are really allowed
                        to leave there. I get that the black pope (and his
                        select 180 or so) is(are) making the main portal for
                        them when they do come around. I think Rome is making
                        portals for 55% or so of the dark critters that come
                        around here. They are very well shielded about all
                        that. If you go in there and get caught for lack of
                        quality shielding yourself, DO NOT mention my name.

                        A reminder here that this is the target galaxy for
                        lucyfur and the badbad aliens for trying to switch the
                        galaxy focus to being dark, by upsetting the balance
                        with their planned chaos, and having a plan to come
                        out of that chaos into the dark, with our innately
                        strong consciousnesses completely submerged in
                        manageable pockets of controlled energetics etc. They
                        want this universe next.

                        When any one person gets going on their correct
                        warriorship with the expanded belief system that we
                        save ourselves AND create the new existence without
                        the bad guys, that warrior is open to enormous help
                        and assistance, and even the galactic-being feels this
                        progress, and needs this progress. It's not so much
                        the number of higher-belief-system warriors, but it
                        has more to do with the quality of that warriorship.
                        Harold


                        --- benaresdt <benaresdt@...> wrote:

                        > What you are talking about though is what I'm seeing
                        as the different universes in some form. I share
                        Loohan's impression that we, in this universe, are
                        actually one of the "dark evolved" ones. A la Earth
                        moon, etc. What I'm getting at, though, is that a
                        certain level (I figure 8-9d) the universes don't have
                        as much "hold" on keeping any being that high up in a
                        certain evolved dimensional space. The reps, for
                        example, have to "break over" from other universes if
                        we wipe them all out here, where as I get the
                        impression that the (strongest) grays can just move
                        horizontally to this universe.
                        > Are we talking about the same thing, here?


                        > --- Harold <me_harold@yahoo> wrote:

                        > OK, but I think it's imperative that we let others
                        know (the others that aren't quite getting at these
                        details), that we are speaking of a dark-evolved
                        dimensional spiral and NOT the lineal dimensional
                        existence that we are evolving in AND learning to take
                        control of.

                        > Part of our taking control of our own existence from
                        the bad critters here, involves knowing about the
                        other existences that can overlay onto/into ours, and
                        to be able to also get bad critters from there out of
                        our mix. At some point, I would think that all of the
                        bad critters, no matter where they call home,
                        can-and-will gang up on us. I think that we are that
                        much of a prize for all of them to target us, but that
                        also can suggest that we are ultimately more powerful
                        than the lot of them. It's like we are our own bait to
                        sucker in the ones who seek to destroy our reality and
                        capture our consciousness' in the process.






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                      • benaresdt
                        I do want to note that I agree completely with your bit about taking parts from everyone s views and constructing your own view, because just like your own
                        Message 11 of 13 , May 7, 2008
                          I do want to note that I agree completely with your bit about taking
                          parts from everyone's views and constructing your own view, because
                          just like your own "spiritual truths", you must make up your own mind.
                          I also want to add to that that no one, including myself, is ever 100%
                          right about any psychic "discoveries", or intel, or viewpoints even.
                          This is because it is highly interpretive, and we don't have a whole
                          whole lot to base all of this off of, only our own experiences. So
                          this again applies, where we have our own "psychic truths", if you
                          will, that we can trade and adopt (in partial, if necessary) at will.

                          It is true that no being has ever been *allowed* to cross universes,
                          but I get that they have "broken into" other universes without the
                          blessings of the gatekeepers, so to speak.

                          Let us follow along with the multiple universes model for a moment.
                          Although there are multiple parallel universes (5d horizontal movement
                          through quantum possibilities), there are also unparallel universes
                          that have branched off due to large changes or 6d quantum
                          possibilities through "backwards" time probability waves converging
                          and altering what we would call "the past". This, in my head, is what
                          creates these alternatives that are not parallel, and may or may not
                          run on the same timeline as us. I get that there are limitless 5d
                          parallel "universes", but there are much fewer of the 6d probability
                          universes, and that is what I refer to as "other universes".

                          That would mean when a being is "breaking in", they are moving from a
                          timeline where it is a probability that they were allowed to exist in
                          what we call the past. In this timeline, they may not have ever
                          existed in what we call the past until they broke into our present or
                          future at the point in time that we experience it at. This example
                          would mainly be pertaining to greys, etc. The reppies would be a lot
                          less likely to break in since there are already numerous reps here,
                          who either came (or were brought, as I understand it) here in our past
                          to this timeline, where they can now slide between parallels at will,
                          trying their best to mess up our futures by altering the possibilities
                          of what could happen.

                          Well.. my head hurts after typing all of this.. but I really am
                          enjoying this discussion!

                          By the way, I get that I am 8D, Loohan is 7D, and you are probably
                          also 8D Harold.

                          --- In destroy_evil@yahoogroups.com, Harold <me_harold@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > I appreciate your wanting clarification on the way I
                          > get at things. As Bohm and Bors and the quantum guys
                          > said (Bohm I think), that no one has the complete
                          > picture/(theory), and that it's valid to take pieces
                          > of everyone's view (on quantum mechanics) to construct
                          > something closer to the truth. Somehow I have
                          > confidence that you won't let yourself stumble or
                          > stall on your activities if anything I may say goes
                          > awry from your views and techniques.
                          >
                          > Per this thread, I've spent a little time looking at
                          > this issue(s). I have found a very few instances of
                          > visits from a physically different universe(s),
                          > universes that have seemingly uncountable galaxies.
                          > Loohan confirmed one visit that I told him of, but
                          > that's about it. There are some 6D souls from a
                          > neighboring universe (not parallel) that I know of
                          > that are here for the 'project', but they have 3D bods
                          > here as we do.
                          >
                          > I don't get that the reps get here from another
                          > complete universe but that they can slide here (sort
                          > of) horizontally from a parallel existence, BUT they
                          > are originally from the other side of our galaxy in
                          > this timeline/parallel.
                          > For the greys, I get that they move sideways into
                          > parallels also, but that they are also in another far
                          > off universe. The ones here are related to them from
                          > long ago, but they don't travel to&fro.
                          > Dowse to our universe-being (or whoever that
                          > critter/creator is) and he/she says that no bad
                          > critter from another universe has ever been allowed to
                          > cross into here. Now parallel existence/(universe),
                          > yes, but still within this physical universe.
                          >
                          > A psychic and her higher dimensional friend clued me
                          > in about the parallel existence that has higher dark
                          > dimensions than we do here. I get that they don't
                          > really astral travel here very often. I get that some
                          > old wizard that I know had gone their and ruffled some
                          > feathers, and now he and his contacts are followed and
                          > harassed. I don't think that they are really allowed
                          > to leave there. I get that the black pope (and his
                          > select 180 or so) is(are) making the main portal for
                          > them when they do come around. I think Rome is making
                          > portals for 55% or so of the dark critters that come
                          > around here. They are very well shielded about all
                          > that. If you go in there and get caught for lack of
                          > quality shielding yourself, DO NOT mention my name.
                          >
                          > A reminder here that this is the target galaxy for
                          > lucyfur and the badbad aliens for trying to switch the
                          > galaxy focus to being dark, by upsetting the balance
                          > with their planned chaos, and having a plan to come
                          > out of that chaos into the dark, with our innately
                          > strong consciousnesses completely submerged in
                          > manageable pockets of controlled energetics etc. They
                          > want this universe next.
                          >
                          > When any one person gets going on their correct
                          > warriorship with the expanded belief system that we
                          > save ourselves AND create the new existence without
                          > the bad guys, that warrior is open to enormous help
                          > and assistance, and even the galactic-being feels this
                          > progress, and needs this progress. It's not so much
                          > the number of higher-belief-system warriors, but it
                          > has more to do with the quality of that warriorship.
                          > Harold
                          >
                          >
                          > --- benaresdt <benaresdt@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > > What you are talking about though is what I'm seeing
                          > as the different universes in some form. I share
                          > Loohan's impression that we, in this universe, are
                          > actually one of the "dark evolved" ones. A la Earth
                          > moon, etc. What I'm getting at, though, is that a
                          > certain level (I figure 8-9d) the universes don't have
                          > as much "hold" on keeping any being that high up in a
                          > certain evolved dimensional space. The reps, for
                          > example, have to "break over" from other universes if
                          > we wipe them all out here, where as I get the
                          > impression that the (strongest) grays can just move
                          > horizontally to this universe.
                          > > Are we talking about the same thing, here?
                          >
                          >
                          > > --- Harold <me_harold@yahoo> wrote:
                          >
                          > > OK, but I think it's imperative that we let others
                          > know (the others that aren't quite getting at these
                          > details), that we are speaking of a dark-evolved
                          > dimensional spiral and NOT the lineal dimensional
                          > existence that we are evolving in AND learning to take
                          > control of.
                          >
                          > > Part of our taking control of our own existence from
                          > the bad critters here, involves knowing about the
                          > other existences that can overlay onto/into ours, and
                          > to be able to also get bad critters from there out of
                          > our mix. At some point, I would think that all of the
                          > bad critters, no matter where they call home,
                          > can-and-will gang up on us. I think that we are that
                          > much of a prize for all of them to target us, but that
                          > also can suggest that we are ultimately more powerful
                          > than the lot of them. It's like we are our own bait to
                          > sucker in the ones who seek to destroy our reality and
                          > capture our consciousness' in the process.
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
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                        • loohon
                          All i know is this. Many occultists have written about Universe A. Bill Schnoebelin claims there are B, C, D, etc. on and on. I have only ever felt A-F, and
                          Message 12 of 13 , May 7, 2008
                            All i know is this. Many occultists have written about Universe A.
                            Bill Schnoebelin claims there are B, C, D, etc. on and on.

                            I have only ever felt A-F, and have been attacked on a daily basis
                            from them lately. That is, they seem to escape via power spots, enter
                            this universe, and smack me.
                            For many months, a radionics device and a bit of orgone was all it
                            took to automatically make them end up in my jail when they thought
                            they were breaking into Universe A. I was amazed how well it worked
                            with almost no personal intervention on my part. Occasionally i would
                            have to conjure up a bunch of traps in their wormholes.
                            Vast quantities streamed into jail constantly for many months.
                            But that came to an end a few weeks ago. Luckily, the darkside in the
                            other U's as well as timelines has been largely drained by now.

                            I think only A, D, and E have solid matter. B, C, and F do not.
                            Being hit by these guys is a tangible daily reality to me.
                            The Zawz for example were coming out of several spots at once in each
                            of several U's simultaneously.
                          • Harold
                            I get that I ve got two critters in 6D serving as my higher self. About 10% of us have that set up. I thought that I found that for myself and then reviewed
                            Message 13 of 13 , May 7, 2008
                              I get that I've got two critters in 6D serving as my
                              higher self. About 10% of us have that set up. I
                              thought that I found that for myself and then reviewed
                              some info (from a long time dowser) and saw that I was
                              already told about that, and had forgotten about it
                              until I started to do that kind of snooping around for
                              myself.
                              Try to weed out the dimensional influences on a soul
                              that you pick up on when percieving someone, and go to
                              the original core of this incarnation, i.e. the person
                              in question. Then get that dimension. If it's a bad
                              guy that you're looking at, be mindful of false
                              projections in those dimensions that appear as souls,
                              which I've found with shape shifter types.

                              --- benaresdt <benaresdt@...> wrote:
                              > Well.. my head hurts after typing all of this.. but
                              > I really am enjoying this discussion!

                              > By the way, I get that I am 8D, Loohan is 7D, and
                              > you are probably also 8D Harold.



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