4987Re: Star Gaze XII activities
- Apr 4, 2006
Paul, thanks for your kind words. Delmarva Star Gazers have always promoted friendliness and civility. We value camaraderie and fellowship with our stargazing friends. We enjoy good people, good food, clear skies, big telescopes and Naglers.
We have never denied anyone a look thru the eyepiece whether it is attached to a tasco or a takahashi.
We promote our starparties to have fun...period.
If anyone believes we hold them to make money they are severely misinformed. I would encourage each person who believes our parties are overpriced at $25 for Friday, Saturday and Sunday??? to promote their own party for less.
If you check the Tuckahoe State Park Website you will find their campsites w/o electricity are $20 per night. The people who stated they would observe from the ballfield can do that only because Delmarva Star Gazers successfully negotiated with the Park Superintendent to use the ballfield at night.
There will be star parties only if amateur astronomers value them to the point of supporting them with their $$$. No organization can provide free star parties.
As far as by the day or by the night or by the weekend...the cost of a starparty to DSG is the same whether a person stays in a tent or in a hotel...same field, same coffee, same food, same trash, same portapotties, same everything except the snoring is done in the motel room vs the tent next to me. The other problem is how to tell whether a person is a 1 nighter, 2 nighter, paid, or not paid. We don't like being policemen - we are at the party to have fun.
And for information for everyone, our desire to have no treasury is one of the main principles upon which our organization was founded - in reality we must have some funds but we have tried to keep the bank account to a minimum.
For those on this list who have other priorities and will not attend Star Gaze XII, I can understand your position...if you have other commitments or choose to go to other star parties that is ok with me - it is your decision. Go and have fun.
For those who choose to come to Star Gaze XII here is the weather forecast for the Equestrian Center April 28 thru May 2:
"Warm sunny days around 75F with a slight breeze; nighttime temps will drop to the low 60's by midnight and around 58F by dawn's early light - skies will be extremely clear. There will also be a slight dew-zapping breeze."
See you at the Equestrian Center. The coffee will be Gazer quality and the soup will be hot. And the hush puppies and fish...
You may want to bring some sleeping pills so you can sleep during the day and stay up to enjoy the clear night-time hours.
"Paul Gray" <perserid@...>
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email@example.comSubject [delmarvastargazers] Re: Star Gaze XII activities
I am always happy to see discussion on club activities and events but
am deeply sadden and somewhat shocked by the recent discussion. I am
not a member have not been since I moved home to Canada but have many
friends here at the stargazers so feel free to tell me to but out if
you choose and I will.
Having atteneded more than a handful of No Frills and Stargaze events
I must say they are some of the best and relaxing star parties I been
too. I did question back in 2001 though the fee structure on a
different slant….. why is it pay by the day? All of the star parties
I been too over the last 18 years and every campground I stayed at
has always been pay by the night. How many nights are you staying? I
come in on Friday and am charged for 3 days when I am there two
nights but get up at 8am and check out on Sunday…….(just stirring the
As for the fees…..I will not argue the prices as 2 nights of camping
alone puts you in the $30-$40 range. Add that to the services the
volunteers provide through clean up, supplies, planning etc etc etc
etc, I think Don listed it all well enough.
But I always wondered about the non-campers. Yes they do exist. Many
people stay off site in motels and hotels at many star parties
including stargaze and no-frills. Should a non camper who is there
only for the observing time pay the same? Almost every star party
that I can think I been too has had a different fee structure for the
non-campers. Or is the non-camping astronomers not welcome as it
seems to have been implied in some of the discussion?
This last point is what has shocked me. I understand the public
walking in taking in views cuts into the serious observing time. I
been there remember. I never turned away a person from views through
my scope. What shocked and saddened me is that a past member/possible
member again was turned away from not only the star party because his
questions/ideas were not only turned down but was also turned away
from the club because he rose the questions! This was a not a general
public person looking for some free views. Building an observatory as
he is signs of a serious astronomer.
Future members are the future of the all astronomy clubs. We have to
keep that in mind. As well just because we have done something for 8
or 10 years does not mean that its always the best way and that there
is no room for change. Granted NO change for this year but maybe
something that should/could be considered in the future.
Clear skies and hope to visit soon,
Wishing I was at the meeting tonight!
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