Re: [decentralization] The decline of P2P and Decentralisation
- Clay Shirky <clay@...> Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:25:55
>It still makes sense for IM, which is, by number of users, theSkype is throwing up some issues here. Because the bulk of the system is
>largest decentralized use case, probably by a couple orders of
decentralised it's very hard for them to offer centralised web services.
Which in turn makes it hard to offer the sort of web client embedding
that GTalk (and now AIM) can do.
I'm sure others will point out that the real problem with Skype is also
it's proprietary, closed wire protocol and difficulties with running
server side code (the so called "naked Skype").
There is a pattern here though for a mixed architecture. Mostly
decentralised with reporting up to a centralised stats and web services
server. And ideally where anyone can run one of these servers or build
one on top of a well documented API. Move as much as possible of the
peer to peer comms out to the edge, but still aggregate some of the
system in the centre.
>I got beat up a few years ago for suggesting that Napster was aSee Also Soulseek. Search across distributed file systems is still a
>better architecture than Gnutella on every axis except legal risk;
problem. And this can be seen in BitTorrent.
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- The two places where we can promote P2P as a design pattern right now
is in the WHAT-WG of the W3C and the IETF. The WHAT-WG is the working
group responsible for defining the HTML5 standard.
Just last week I posted the following idea to the group's list and I'm
trying to recruit people that can help us explore this idea:
Keep in mind that for some reason my mail-agent and my friend's mail
agent broke the thread and it is separated into more than one thread
at the moment.
Gleicon has a few ideas for implementing this and I've gotten some
tips from others like Todd over at HighScalability.
If anyone on this list wants to participate or can indicate others to
participate, that would be awesome. Right now I'm trying to call the
attention of those with the technical knowledge necessary to take this
forward. I'm a product manager with the skills to help organize this
idea, but I don't know enough to make this happen alone.
andrew at deandrade dot com dot br