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RE: [decentralization] P2P multi-user chat

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  • Lucas Gonze
    Does ytalk use peer routing?
    Message 1 of 16 , Sep 1, 2000
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      Does ytalk use peer routing?

      > ytalk is "multi-user"
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@...]
      > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:54 AM
      > To: decentralization@egroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [decentralization] P2P multi-user chat
      >
      >
      > The difference is "multi-user". Meaning more than two. Dave
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Rahul Dave" <rahul@...>
      > To: <decentralization@egroups.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:00 AM
      > Subject: Re: [decentralization] P2P multi-user chat
      >
      >
      > > What about good old unix "talk"? Its between two machines, no central
      > > server, each machine runs a talk server under inetd and has a talk client.
      > > You say talk rahul@..., and if I have so allowed, I
      > > will get a message on my terminal saying you want to talk with me.
      > > Then I say talk you@..., and the connection is established.
      > > There are extensions to 3 way talks bith no central mediation, but
      > > p-p negotiation, obviously n-way-simultaneous scales as n^2 and is not
      > > a great way of doing things...
      > > Rahul
      > > >
      > > > Lemme say that P2P chat is a beautifully anonymous way to do things. So
      > far
      > > > chat systems (that I know of) all allow a central point to filter the
      > data,
      > > > which is pretty intrusive in some cases. What if you're confessing to
      > the
      > > > priest, or talking to your lawyer? ICQ is not under the same
      > restrictions
      > > > as priests and lawyers.
      > > >
      > > > - Lucas
      > > >
      > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > From: sentto-2063116-276-967084012-lucas=worldos.com@...
      > > > [mailto:sentto-2063116-276-967084012-lucas=worldos.com@....c
      > > > om]On Behalf Of Dave Winer
      > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 7:22 PM
      > > > To: decentralization@egroups.com
      > > > Cc: UserLand-Internal
      > > > Subject: [decentralization] P2P multi-user chat
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > We got to an interesting place today in the development of Radio
      > UserLand,
      > > > and talking amongst ourselves today a question came up, has it it been
      > done
      > > > before?
      > > >
      > > > We have P2P multi-user chat running. The only role the cloud performs is
      > to
      > > > help you find someone to connect up with. When you ask for permission to
      > > > join a chat, you are then connected to all the people that person is
      > > > chatting with. If you were chatting with five people, they also join the
      > > > other chat, and vice versa.
      > > >
      > > > If two groups of 20 people are connected this way, you get a chat room
      > with
      > > > 40 people.
      > > >
      > > > Key point, the messages do not pass through the cloud. There is no data
      > > > structure in the cloud that knows who's chatting with whom. The only
      > purpose
      > > > it serves is to get you into the first chat with the first user you
      > choose
      > > > to chat with.
      > > >
      > > > So -- has this been done before?
      > > >
      > > > Dave
      > > >
      > > > PS: Forgive my naivete if it has. I haven't been a regular chat user
      > since
      > > > the Web entered my life. Don't know why.
      > > >
      > > >
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