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Proposal: Arab Nations ruled by Imams shall change to a secular government.

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  • Don Tipton
    Hi All: (Tip) Should Islamic Imams be allowed to continually preach hate towards the West with no penalty? Should such uncivilized behavior as suicide
    Message 1 of 14 , May 2, 2003
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      Hi All: (Tip)

      Should Islamic Imams be allowed to continually "preach hate"
      towards the West with no penalty? Should such uncivilized behavior
      as suicide bombers blowing up innocent civilians be tolerated? In
      self defense the US and her western coalition have taken down the
      Taliban - Al-Qaida in Afghanistan, Saddam Hussain in Iraq, and are
      now focused on the Syrians who harbor Hezbollah, Hamas and the
      Palestinian Jihad.

      The question above is one "Self Defense Mechanism" to rid the
      world of despotic rulers that keep their people in perpetual
      ignorance, poverty, and filled with hatred for Western nations,
      sending their suicide killers everywhere. Why should thye civilized
      people of the earth put up with this?

      Best regards,

      Tip
    • mctempedocles
      Hey Tip, What s simply stupefying is the irrelevant waste of good oxygen called the United Nations. They re only united in one thing: raping the West. If
      Message 2 of 14 , May 2, 2003
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        Hey Tip,

        What's simply stupefying is the irrelevant waste of good oxygen
        called the United Nations. They're only united in one thing: raping
        the West. If they were to ever accomplish this, they'd fall to
        raping each other and become the Disunited Nations. Since it's
        proven historic fact that a republican-democratic form of government
        combined with capitalism and separation of church from state is
        simply the best form of government (for both the citizens and the
        state) as well as being the best defense ever found against disease
        and privation, why doesn't the United Nations *demand* that its
        members conform to this?

        I think it's evident that a new world order (*uncapitalized*) is
        in order; but not the one the socialists, neo-communists, and God
        people (or Allah people) visualize. One world government? In a way,
        yes. One world philosophy is more like it. Every individual has an
        innate and unequivocable right to self-determination. Thus, since
        every state is established by men, every state has that right also.
        But that right does not extend to activities that curtail the natural
        rights of individuals or states. We -- every person everywhere --
        cannot afford to allow socialist, theocratic, and autocratic actions
        to go unchecked. Those are the very things that curtail everyone's
        natural rights. It's paradoxical that the need to organize into
        political bodies, into states, is the same urge that brings
        socialism, theocracy, and autocracy to life. It's a delicate
        balancing act to create and maintain the most favorable conditions in
        which both individuals and states can stand on their own two feet
        without nailing their feet to the floor.

        Since the Wall fell, the United States finds itself in a new and
        almost unimagined situation as the world's sole superpower (or so-
        called hyperpower). The movie "Spiderman" trivialized the
        phrase "With great power comes great responsibility." Nevertheless,
        it is true, even if considered from the angle that one is responsible
        to his own self. The United States cannot sit idly by while
        theocrats, autocrats, and socialists enlarge the scope of their
        felonious acts and their medieval philosophies. Even if they could
        not touch us, their repression of the rest of the world would
        threaten our prosperity and health, if not our peace. Even if we
        considered that we didn't owe the rest of the world a damn thing, we
        would still owe it to ourselves to see that the rest of the world had
        the chance to become as healthy and prosperous as we are. Out of
        poverty, there is nothing to share; but out of abundance, there is
        always more than enough to go around. Repressive political policies
        only create poverty -- poverty of conditions and poverty of the heart
        and mind. Only non-repressive and free policies will create
        abundance. The United States and other free peoples of the world can
        no longer allow hate-filled and anti-human policies to be propagated
        anywhere in the world. Terrorism, religious power-mongering, and
        monolithic governance; hatred, envy, and greed must be stopped
        wherever they are encountered. The United Nations not only does not
        act against these, but actively (if surreptitiously) encourages
        them. It should be disbanded. It is now up to the United States and
        the few other right-thinking nations to get the world out of this
        quagmire.


        Regards,
        Maurice
      • Don Tipton
        Hi Maurice: (Tip) Well said my friend, I agree. Best regards, Tip ... oxygen ... raping ... government ... disease ... is ... way, ... an ... also. ... natural
        Message 3 of 14 , May 3, 2003
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          Hi Maurice: (Tip)

          Well said my friend, I agree.

          Best regards,

          Tip


          --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "mctempedocles"
          <mctempedocles@y...> wrote:
          > Hey Tip,
          >
          > What's simply stupefying is the irrelevant waste of good
          oxygen
          > called the United Nations. They're only united in one thing:
          raping
          > the West. If they were to ever accomplish this, they'd fall to
          > raping each other and become the Disunited Nations. Since it's
          > proven historic fact that a republican-democratic form of
          government
          > combined with capitalism and separation of church from state is
          > simply the best form of government (for both the citizens and the
          > state) as well as being the best defense ever found against
          disease
          > and privation, why doesn't the United Nations *demand* that its
          > members conform to this?
          >
          > I think it's evident that a new world order (*uncapitalized*)
          is
          > in order; but not the one the socialists, neo-communists, and God
          > people (or Allah people) visualize. One world government? In a
          way,
          > yes. One world philosophy is more like it. Every individual has
          an
          > innate and unequivocable right to self-determination. Thus, since
          > every state is established by men, every state has that right
          also.
          > But that right does not extend to activities that curtail the
          natural
          > rights of individuals or states. We -- every person everywhere --
          > cannot afford to allow socialist, theocratic, and autocratic
          actions
          > to go unchecked. Those are the very things that curtail
          everyone's
          > natural rights. It's paradoxical that the need to organize into
          > political bodies, into states, is the same urge that brings
          > socialism, theocracy, and autocracy to life. It's a delicate
          > balancing act to create and maintain the most favorable conditions
          in
          > which both individuals and states can stand on their own two feet
          > without nailing their feet to the floor.
          >
          > Since the Wall fell, the United States finds itself in a new
          and
          > almost unimagined situation as the world's sole superpower (or so-
          > called hyperpower). The movie "Spiderman" trivialized the
          > phrase "With great power comes great responsibility."
          Nevertheless,
          > it is true, even if considered from the angle that one is
          responsible
          > to his own self. The United States cannot sit idly by while
          > theocrats, autocrats, and socialists enlarge the scope of their
          > felonious acts and their medieval philosophies. Even if they
          could
          > not touch us, their repression of the rest of the world would
          > threaten our prosperity and health, if not our peace. Even if we
          > considered that we didn't owe the rest of the world a damn thing,
          we
          > would still owe it to ourselves to see that the rest of the world
          had
          > the chance to become as healthy and prosperous as we are. Out of
          > poverty, there is nothing to share; but out of abundance, there is
          > always more than enough to go around. Repressive political
          policies
          > only create poverty -- poverty of conditions and poverty of the
          heart
          > and mind. Only non-repressive and free policies will create
          > abundance. The United States and other free peoples of the world
          can
          > no longer allow hate-filled and anti-human policies to be
          propagated
          > anywhere in the world. Terrorism, religious power-mongering, and
          > monolithic governance; hatred, envy, and greed must be stopped
          > wherever they are encountered. The United Nations not only does
          not
          > act against these, but actively (if surreptitiously) encourages
          > them. It should be disbanded. It is now up to the United States
          and
          > the few other right-thinking nations to get the world out of this
          > quagmire.
          >
          >
          > Regards,
          > Maurice
        • Maurice Temples
          Hey Tip, What if the United States were to allow other nations to apply for statehood? That way, they d have to meet the same requirements our own
          Message 4 of 14 , May 3, 2003
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            Hey Tip, What if the United States were to allow other nations to apply for statehood? That way, they'd have to meet the same requirements our own territories once had to meet in applying for statehood, that is, constitutional government organized under the Constitution and laws of the United States. Might go a long way towards bringing about peace. Just a thought,Maurice

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          • Don Tipton
            Hi Maurice: (Tip) Wow! Now that is a different approach, but the naysayers would probably flay us alive over the subject of Empire building, worldwide, eh?
            Message 5 of 14 , May 4, 2003
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              Hi Maurice: (Tip)

              Wow! Now that is a different approach, but the naysayers
              would probably flay us alive over the subject of Empire building,
              worldwide, eh?

              Best regards,

              Tip



              --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, Maurice Temples
              <mctempedocles@y...> wrote:
              > Hey Tip, What if the United States were to allow other
              nations to apply for statehood? That way, they'd have to meet the
              same requirements our own territories once had to meet in applying
              for statehood, that is, constitutional government organized under
              the Constitution and laws of the United States. Might go a long way
              towards bringing about peace. Just a thought,Maurice
              >
              > ---------------------------------
              > Do you Yahoo!?
              > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            • Maurice Temples
              Hey Tip, I don t see how. Could be no other nations would want statehood. No one would be forcing them. Empirically, Maurice ... Do you Yahoo!? The New
              Message 6 of 14 , May 4, 2003
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                Hey Tip,



                I don't see how. Could be no other nations would want statehood. No one would be forcing them.





                Empirically,

                Maurice


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              • bestonnet_00
                Besides I doubt many countries would apply. Even the ones that would be let in.
                Message 7 of 14 , May 5, 2003
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                  Besides I doubt many countries would apply. Even the ones that would
                  be let in.

                  --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                  <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                  > Hi Maurice: (Tip)
                  >
                  > Wow! Now that is a different approach, but the naysayers
                  > would probably flay us alive over the subject of Empire building,
                  > worldwide, eh?
                  >
                  > Best regards,
                  >
                  > Tip
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, Maurice Temples
                  > <mctempedocles@y...> wrote:
                  > > Hey Tip, What if the United States were to allow other
                  > nations to apply for statehood? That way, they'd have to meet the
                  > same requirements our own territories once had to meet in applying
                  > for statehood, that is, constitutional government organized under
                  > the Constitution and laws of the United States. Might go a long way
                  > towards bringing about peace. Just a thought,Maurice
                  > >
                  > > ---------------------------------
                  > > Do you Yahoo!?
                  > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
                  > >
                  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                • devas666
                  But Best, sweety, you forget that all countries truly just want to be americans. It is the desire of every single man and woman, child and old person who are
                  Message 8 of 14 , May 7, 2003
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                    But Best, sweety, you forget that all countries truly just want to
                    be americans. It is the desire of every single man and woman, child
                    and old person who are born outside of the great ol United States.
                    World peace would be a definite result if we all become americans.
                    Cuz them yankees sure are peaceful.

                    ...6:58 are you sure where my spark is...
                    devas

                    --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, bestonnet_00 <no_reply@y...>
                    wrote:
                    > Besides I doubt many countries would apply. Even the ones that
                    would
                    > be let in.
                    >
                    > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                    > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                    > > Hi Maurice: (Tip)
                    > >
                    > > Wow! Now that is a different approach, but the
                    naysayers
                    > > would probably flay us alive over the subject of Empire
                    building,
                    > > worldwide, eh?
                    > >
                    > > Best regards,
                    > >
                    > > Tip
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, Maurice Temples
                    > > <mctempedocles@y...> wrote:
                    > > > Hey Tip, What if the United States were to allow other
                    > > nations to apply for statehood? That way, they'd have to meet
                    the
                    > > same requirements our own territories once had to meet in
                    applying
                    > > for statehood, that is, constitutional government organized
                    under
                    > > the Constitution and laws of the United States. Might go a long
                    way
                    > > towards bringing about peace. Just a thought,Maurice
                    > > >
                    > > > ---------------------------------
                    > > > Do you Yahoo!?
                    > > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
                    > > >
                    > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  • Don Tipton
                    Hi devas: (Tip) It ain t that WE YANKEES ARE SO PEACEFUL, its that we have the biggest piece of the pie in this world. (We worked for it, and they want it
                    Message 9 of 14 , May 15, 2003
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                      Hi devas: (Tip)

                      It ain't that WE YANKEES ARE SO PEACEFUL, its that we have
                      the biggest piece of the pie in this world. (We worked for it, and
                      they want it without working for it)

                      Notice how my logic takes after the old Ballad Singer's words?
                      (Burl Ives)

                      The Rainbow
                      My friend the little Bluebird flew close enough
                      to see, what was written on the Rainbow, was this
                      philosophy -

                      "As you go through life make this your
                      goal, watch the doughnut, and not the hole!"

                      America has forged the best society, the most productive labor
                      force, the smartest commercial enterprises and the free-est
                      communities in the world. All the rest are trying to catch up by
                      tearing us down, and we have some of our enemies within our society
                      that fail to realize this. The old concept of "The Loyal Opposition"
                      no longer exists, they are now the "dis-loyal opposition", led by
                      Nancy Pelosi, Tom Dashle, Henry Waxman and Terry McAuliffe.

                      Not only do they cut down our present Administration, but attack
                      the very foundations of American Values. they have no vision for the
                      future except a return of the DEMOCRATS TO POLITICAL POWER, using
                      tired old liberal cliches and a longin for Hillery, Bill, and Monica
                      in the West Wing of the white House. It would be no great surprise
                      to me if they proposed "painting the White House to a Rainbow",
                      Motif.

                      Tip






                      --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666 <no_reply@y...>
                      wrote:
                      > But Best, sweety, you forget that all countries truly just want to
                      > be americans. It is the desire of every single man and woman,
                      child
                      > and old person who are born outside of the great ol United
                      States.
                      > World peace would be a definite result if we all become
                      americans.
                      > Cuz them yankees sure are peaceful.
                      >
                      > ...6:58 are you sure where my spark is...
                      > devas
                      >
                      > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, bestonnet_00
                      <no_reply@y...>
                      > wrote:
                      > > Besides I doubt many countries would apply. Even the ones that
                      > would
                      > > be let in.
                      > >
                      > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                      > > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                      > > > Hi Maurice: (Tip)
                      > > >
                      > > > Wow! Now that is a different approach, but the
                      > naysayers
                      > > > would probably flay us alive over the subject of Empire
                      > building,
                      > > > worldwide, eh?
                      > > >
                      > > > Best regards,
                      > > >
                      > > > Tip
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, Maurice Temples
                      > > > <mctempedocles@y...> wrote:
                      > > > > Hey Tip, What if the United States were to allow other
                      > > > nations to apply for statehood? That way, they'd have to meet
                      > the
                      > > > same requirements our own territories once had to meet in
                      > applying
                      > > > for statehood, that is, constitutional government organized
                      > under
                      > > > the Constitution and laws of the United States. Might go a
                      long
                      > way
                      > > > towards bringing about peace. Just a thought,Maurice
                      > > > >
                      > > > > ---------------------------------
                      > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
                      > > > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    • devas666
                      Burl Ives, huh. Sorry, you discredited everything else you said by quoting him. Really, I just couldn t take you seriously after that inane quote. ...she s
                      Message 10 of 14 , May 16, 2003
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                        Burl Ives, huh. Sorry, you discredited everything else you said by
                        quoting him. Really, I just couldn't take you seriously after that
                        inane quote.

                        ...she's convinced she could hold back a glacier...
                        devas

                        --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                        <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                        > Hi devas: (Tip)
                        >
                        > It ain't that WE YANKEES ARE SO PEACEFUL, its that we
                        have
                        > the biggest piece of the pie in this world. (We worked for it,
                        and
                        > they want it without working for it)
                        >
                        > Notice how my logic takes after the old Ballad Singer's words?
                        > (Burl Ives)
                        >
                        > The Rainbow
                        > My friend the little Bluebird flew close enough
                        > to see, what was written on the Rainbow, was this
                        > philosophy -
                        >
                        > "As you go through life make this your
                        > goal, watch the doughnut, and not the hole!"
                        >
                        > America has forged the best society, the most productive labor
                        > force, the smartest commercial enterprises and the free-est
                        > communities in the world. All the rest are trying to catch up by
                        > tearing us down, and we have some of our enemies within our
                        society
                        > that fail to realize this. The old concept of "The Loyal
                        Opposition"
                        > no longer exists, they are now the "dis-loyal opposition", led by
                        > Nancy Pelosi, Tom Dashle, Henry Waxman and Terry McAuliffe.
                        >
                        > Not only do they cut down our present Administration, but attack
                        > the very foundations of American Values. they have no vision for
                        the
                        > future except a return of the DEMOCRATS TO POLITICAL POWER, using
                        > tired old liberal cliches and a longin for Hillery, Bill, and
                        Monica
                        > in the West Wing of the white House. It would be no great surprise
                        > to me if they proposed "painting the White House to a Rainbow",
                        > Motif.
                        >
                        > Tip
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666 <no_reply@y...>
                        > wrote:
                        > > But Best, sweety, you forget that all countries truly just want
                        to
                        > > be americans. It is the desire of every single man and woman,
                        > child
                        > > and old person who are born outside of the great ol United
                        > States.
                        > > World peace would be a definite result if we all become
                        > americans.
                        > > Cuz them yankees sure are peaceful.
                        > >
                        > > ...6:58 are you sure where my spark is...
                        > > devas
                        > >
                        > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, bestonnet_00
                        > <no_reply@y...>
                        > > wrote:
                        > > > Besides I doubt many countries would apply. Even the ones
                        that
                        > > would
                        > > > be let in.
                        > > >
                        > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                        > > > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                        > > > > Hi Maurice: (Tip)
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Wow! Now that is a different approach, but the
                        > > naysayers
                        > > > > would probably flay us alive over the subject of Empire
                        > > building,
                        > > > > worldwide, eh?
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Best regards,
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Tip
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, Maurice Temples
                        > > > > <mctempedocles@y...> wrote:
                        > > > > > Hey Tip, What if the United States were to allow
                        other
                        > > > > nations to apply for statehood? That way, they'd have to
                        meet
                        > > the
                        > > > > same requirements our own territories once had to meet in
                        > > applying
                        > > > > for statehood, that is, constitutional government organized
                        > > under
                        > > > > the Constitution and laws of the United States. Might go a
                        > long
                        > > way
                        > > > > towards bringing about peace. Just a thought,Maurice
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > ---------------------------------
                        > > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
                        > > > > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      • Don Tipton
                        Hi Devas: (Tip) Care to expand on your post about Burl Ives, I m interested in hearing more about your rationale. Not taking me serious is of no concern to
                        Message 11 of 14 , May 17, 2003
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                          Hi Devas: (Tip)

                          Care to expand on your post about Burl Ives, I'm
                          interested in hearing more about your rationale. Not taking me
                          serious is of no concern to me, but hearing what "you think" about
                          my writing is important to me. Thanks,

                          Tip



                          --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666 <no_reply@y...>
                          wrote:
                          > Burl Ives, huh. Sorry, you discredited everything else you said
                          by
                          > quoting him. Really, I just couldn't take you seriously after
                          that
                          > inane quote.
                          >
                          > ...she's convinced she could hold back a glacier...
                          > devas
                          >
                          > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                          > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                          > > Hi devas: (Tip)
                          > >
                          > > It ain't that WE YANKEES ARE SO PEACEFUL, its that we
                          > have
                          > > the biggest piece of the pie in this world. (We worked for it,
                          > and
                          > > they want it without working for it)
                          > >
                          > > Notice how my logic takes after the old Ballad Singer's
                          words?
                          > > (Burl Ives)
                          > >
                          > > The Rainbow
                          > > My friend the little Bluebird flew close enough
                          > > to see, what was written on the Rainbow, was this
                          > > philosophy -
                          > >
                          > > "As you go through life make this your
                          > > goal, watch the doughnut, and not the hole!"
                          > >
                          > > America has forged the best society, the most productive
                          labor
                          > > force, the smartest commercial enterprises and the free-est
                          > > communities in the world. All the rest are trying to catch up
                          by
                          > > tearing us down, and we have some of our enemies within our
                          > society
                          > > that fail to realize this. The old concept of "The Loyal
                          > Opposition"
                          > > no longer exists, they are now the "dis-loyal opposition", led
                          by
                          > > Nancy Pelosi, Tom Dashle, Henry Waxman and Terry McAuliffe.
                          > >
                          > > Not only do they cut down our present Administration, but
                          attack
                          > > the very foundations of American Values. they have no vision for
                          > the
                          > > future except a return of the DEMOCRATS TO POLITICAL POWER,
                          using
                          > > tired old liberal cliches and a longin for Hillery, Bill, and
                          > Monica
                          > > in the West Wing of the white House. It would be no great
                          surprise
                          > > to me if they proposed "painting the White House to a Rainbow",
                          > > Motif.
                          > >
                          > > Tip
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666 <no_reply@y...>
                          > > wrote:
                          > > > But Best, sweety, you forget that all countries truly just
                          want
                          > to
                          > > > be americans. It is the desire of every single man and woman,
                          > > child
                          > > > and old person who are born outside of the great ol United
                          > > States.
                          > > > World peace would be a definite result if we all become
                          > > americans.
                          > > > Cuz them yankees sure are peaceful.
                          > > >
                          > > > ...6:58 are you sure where my spark is...
                          > > > devas
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, bestonnet_00
                          > > <no_reply@y...>
                          > > > wrote:
                          > > > > Besides I doubt many countries would apply. Even the ones
                          > that
                          > > > would
                          > > > > be let in.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                          > > > > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                          > > > > > Hi Maurice: (Tip)
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Wow! Now that is a different approach, but the
                          > > > naysayers
                          > > > > > would probably flay us alive over the subject of Empire
                          > > > building,
                          > > > > > worldwide, eh?
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Best regards,
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Tip
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, Maurice Temples
                          > > > > > <mctempedocles@y...> wrote:
                          > > > > > > Hey Tip, What if the United States were to allow
                          > other
                          > > > > > nations to apply for statehood? That way, they'd have to
                          > meet
                          > > > the
                          > > > > > same requirements our own territories once had to meet in
                          > > > applying
                          > > > > > for statehood, that is, constitutional government
                          organized
                          > > > under
                          > > > > > the Constitution and laws of the United States. Might go
                          a
                          > > long
                          > > > way
                          > > > > > towards bringing about peace. Just a thought,Maurice
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > ---------------------------------
                          > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
                          > > > > > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        • devas666
                          Do I really need to explain my opposition to Burl Ives? I thought that was pretty self-explanatory. Besides, I was being somewhat facetious, as per usual.
                          Message 12 of 14 , May 17, 2003
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                            Do I really need to explain my opposition to Burl Ives? I thought
                            that was pretty self-explanatory. Besides, I was being somewhat
                            facetious, as per usual.

                            ...she's afraid of a light in the dark...
                            devas

                            --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                            <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                            > Hi Devas: (Tip)
                            >
                            > Care to expand on your post about Burl Ives, I'm
                            > interested in hearing more about your rationale. Not taking me
                            > serious is of no concern to me, but hearing what "you think" about
                            > my writing is important to me. Thanks,
                            >
                            > Tip
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666 <no_reply@y...>
                            > wrote:
                            > > Burl Ives, huh. Sorry, you discredited everything else you said
                            > by
                            > > quoting him. Really, I just couldn't take you seriously after
                            > that
                            > > inane quote.
                            > >
                            > > ...she's convinced she could hold back a glacier...
                            > > devas
                            > >
                            > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                            > > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                            > > > Hi devas: (Tip)
                            > > >
                            > > > It ain't that WE YANKEES ARE SO PEACEFUL, its that we
                            > > have
                            > > > the biggest piece of the pie in this world. (We worked for
                            it,
                            > > and
                            > > > they want it without working for it)
                            > > >
                            > > > Notice how my logic takes after the old Ballad Singer's
                            > words?
                            > > > (Burl Ives)
                            > > >
                            > > > The Rainbow
                            > > > My friend the little Bluebird flew close
                            enough
                            > > > to see, what was written on the Rainbow, was
                            this
                            > > > philosophy -
                            > > >
                            > > > "As you go through life make this your
                            > > > goal, watch the doughnut, and not the hole!"
                            > > >
                            > > > America has forged the best society, the most productive
                            > labor
                            > > > force, the smartest commercial enterprises and the free-est
                            > > > communities in the world. All the rest are trying to catch up
                            > by
                            > > > tearing us down, and we have some of our enemies within our
                            > > society
                            > > > that fail to realize this. The old concept of "The Loyal
                            > > Opposition"
                            > > > no longer exists, they are now the "dis-loyal opposition", led
                            > by
                            > > > Nancy Pelosi, Tom Dashle, Henry Waxman and Terry McAuliffe.
                            > > >
                            > > > Not only do they cut down our present Administration, but
                            > attack
                            > > > the very foundations of American Values. they have no vision
                            for
                            > > the
                            > > > future except a return of the DEMOCRATS TO POLITICAL POWER,
                            > using
                            > > > tired old liberal cliches and a longin for Hillery, Bill, and
                            > > Monica
                            > > > in the West Wing of the white House. It would be no great
                            > surprise
                            > > > to me if they proposed "painting the White House to a
                            Rainbow",
                            > > > Motif.
                            > > >
                            > > > Tip
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666
                            <no_reply@y...>
                            > > > wrote:
                            > > > > But Best, sweety, you forget that all countries truly just
                            > want
                            > > to
                            > > > > be americans. It is the desire of every single man and
                            woman,
                            > > > child
                            > > > > and old person who are born outside of the great ol United
                            > > > States.
                            > > > > World peace would be a definite result if we all become
                            > > > americans.
                            > > > > Cuz them yankees sure are peaceful.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > ...6:58 are you sure where my spark is...
                            > > > > devas
                            > > > >
                            > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, bestonnet_00
                            > > > <no_reply@y...>
                            > > > > wrote:
                            > > > > > Besides I doubt many countries would apply. Even the ones
                            > > that
                            > > > > would
                            > > > > > be let in.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                            > > > > > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                            > > > > > > Hi Maurice: (Tip)
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > Wow! Now that is a different approach, but
                            the
                            > > > > naysayers
                            > > > > > > would probably flay us alive over the subject of Empire
                            > > > > building,
                            > > > > > > worldwide, eh?
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > Best regards,
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > Tip
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, Maurice Temples
                            > > > > > > <mctempedocles@y...> wrote:
                            > > > > > > > Hey Tip, What if the United States were to allow
                            > > other
                            > > > > > > nations to apply for statehood? That way, they'd have
                            to
                            > > meet
                            > > > > the
                            > > > > > > same requirements our own territories once had to meet
                            in
                            > > > > applying
                            > > > > > > for statehood, that is, constitutional government
                            > organized
                            > > > > under
                            > > > > > > the Constitution and laws of the United States. Might
                            go
                            > a
                            > > > long
                            > > > > way
                            > > > > > > towards bringing about peace. Just a thought,Maurice
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > ---------------------------------
                            > > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
                            > > > > > > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          • Don Tipton
                            Hi devas 666: (Tip) Your views aren t universally held about Burl Ives, so I just wondered if you had a point or were just uttering some sort of
                            Message 13 of 14 , May 17, 2003
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                              Hi devas 666: (Tip)

                              Your views aren't universally held about Burl Ives, so
                              I just wondered if you had a "point" or were just uttering some sort
                              of philosophical drivil about Burl. Either way I've apparently
                              wasted my time responding to an inane post, by an idiot.

                              Tip



                              --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666 <no_reply@y...>
                              wrote:
                              > Do I really need to explain my opposition to Burl Ives? I thought
                              > that was pretty self-explanatory. Besides, I was being somewhat
                              > facetious, as per usual.
                              >
                              > ...she's afraid of a light in the dark...
                              > devas
                              >
                              > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                              > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                              > > Hi Devas: (Tip)
                              > >
                              > > Care to expand on your post about Burl Ives, I'm
                              > > interested in hearing more about your rationale. Not taking me
                              > > serious is of no concern to me, but hearing what "you think"
                              about
                              > > my writing is important to me. Thanks,
                              > >
                              > > Tip
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666 <no_reply@y...>
                              > > wrote:
                              > > > Burl Ives, huh. Sorry, you discredited everything else you
                              said
                              > > by
                              > > > quoting him. Really, I just couldn't take you seriously after
                              > > that
                              > > > inane quote.
                              > > >
                              > > > ...she's convinced she could hold back a glacier...
                              > > > devas
                              > > >
                              > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                              > > > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                              > > > > Hi devas: (Tip)
                              > > > >
                              > > > > It ain't that WE YANKEES ARE SO PEACEFUL, its that
                              we
                              > > > have
                              > > > > the biggest piece of the pie in this world. (We worked for
                              > it,
                              > > > and
                              > > > > they want it without working for it)
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Notice how my logic takes after the old Ballad Singer's
                              > > words?
                              > > > > (Burl Ives)
                              > > > >
                              > > > > The Rainbow
                              > > > > My friend the little Bluebird flew close
                              > enough
                              > > > > to see, what was written on the Rainbow, was
                              > this
                              > > > > philosophy -
                              > > > >
                              > > > > "As you go through life make this your
                              > > > > goal, watch the doughnut, and not the hole!"
                              > > > >
                              > > > > America has forged the best society, the most productive
                              > > labor
                              > > > > force, the smartest commercial enterprises and the free-est
                              > > > > communities in the world. All the rest are trying to catch
                              up
                              > > by
                              > > > > tearing us down, and we have some of our enemies within our
                              > > > society
                              > > > > that fail to realize this. The old concept of "The Loyal
                              > > > Opposition"
                              > > > > no longer exists, they are now the "dis-loyal opposition",
                              led
                              > > by
                              > > > > Nancy Pelosi, Tom Dashle, Henry Waxman and Terry McAuliffe.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Not only do they cut down our present Administration, but
                              > > attack
                              > > > > the very foundations of American Values. they have no vision
                              > for
                              > > > the
                              > > > > future except a return of the DEMOCRATS TO POLITICAL POWER,
                              > > using
                              > > > > tired old liberal cliches and a longin for Hillery, Bill,
                              and
                              > > > Monica
                              > > > > in the West Wing of the white House. It would be no great
                              > > surprise
                              > > > > to me if they proposed "painting the White House to a
                              > Rainbow",
                              > > > > Motif.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Tip
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666
                              > <no_reply@y...>
                              > > > > wrote:
                              > > > > > But Best, sweety, you forget that all countries truly just
                              > > want
                              > > > to
                              > > > > > be americans. It is the desire of every single man and
                              > woman,
                              > > > > child
                              > > > > > and old person who are born outside of the great ol United
                              > > > > States.
                              > > > > > World peace would be a definite result if we all become
                              > > > > americans.
                              > > > > > Cuz them yankees sure are peaceful.
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > ...6:58 are you sure where my spark is...
                              > > > > > devas
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, bestonnet_00
                              > > > > <no_reply@y...>
                              > > > > > wrote:
                              > > > > > > Besides I doubt many countries would apply. Even the
                              ones
                              > > > that
                              > > > > > would
                              > > > > > > be let in.
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                              > > > > > > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                              > > > > > > > Hi Maurice: (Tip)
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > Wow! Now that is a different approach, but
                              > the
                              > > > > > naysayers
                              > > > > > > > would probably flay us alive over the subject of
                              Empire
                              > > > > > building,
                              > > > > > > > worldwide, eh?
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > Best regards,
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > Tip
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, Maurice
                              Temples
                              > > > > > > > <mctempedocles@y...> wrote:
                              > > > > > > > > Hey Tip, What if the United States were to
                              allow
                              > > > other
                              > > > > > > > nations to apply for statehood? That way, they'd have
                              > to
                              > > > meet
                              > > > > > the
                              > > > > > > > same requirements our own territories once had to meet
                              > in
                              > > > > > applying
                              > > > > > > > for statehood, that is, constitutional government
                              > > organized
                              > > > > > under
                              > > > > > > > the Constitution and laws of the United States. Might
                              > go
                              > > a
                              > > > > long
                              > > > > > way
                              > > > > > > > towards bringing about peace. Just a thought,Maurice
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------
                              > > > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
                              > > > > > > > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            • devas666
                              Man, I lurve you. devas ... so ... sort ... thought ... ... after ... that ... for ... productive ... est ... catch ... our ... McAuliffe. ...
                              Message 14 of 14 , May 18, 2003
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                                Man, I lurve you.

                                devas

                                --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                                <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                                > Hi devas 666: (Tip)
                                >
                                > Your views aren't universally held about Burl Ives,
                                so
                                > I just wondered if you had a "point" or were just uttering some
                                sort
                                > of philosophical drivil about Burl. Either way I've apparently
                                > wasted my time responding to an inane post, by an idiot.
                                >
                                > Tip
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666 <no_reply@y...>
                                > wrote:
                                > > Do I really need to explain my opposition to Burl Ives? I
                                thought
                                > > that was pretty self-explanatory. Besides, I was being somewhat
                                > > facetious, as per usual.
                                > >
                                > > ...she's afraid of a light in the dark...
                                > > devas
                                > >
                                > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                                > > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                                > > > Hi Devas: (Tip)
                                > > >
                                > > > Care to expand on your post about Burl Ives, I'm
                                > > > interested in hearing more about your rationale. Not taking me
                                > > > serious is of no concern to me, but hearing what "you think"
                                > about
                                > > > my writing is important to me. Thanks,
                                > > >
                                > > > Tip
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666
                                <no_reply@y...>
                                > > > wrote:
                                > > > > Burl Ives, huh. Sorry, you discredited everything else you
                                > said
                                > > > by
                                > > > > quoting him. Really, I just couldn't take you seriously
                                after
                                > > > that
                                > > > > inane quote.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > ...she's convinced she could hold back a glacier...
                                > > > > devas
                                > > > >
                                > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                                > > > > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                                > > > > > Hi devas: (Tip)
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > It ain't that WE YANKEES ARE SO PEACEFUL, its
                                that
                                > we
                                > > > > have
                                > > > > > the biggest piece of the pie in this world. (We worked
                                for
                                > > it,
                                > > > > and
                                > > > > > they want it without working for it)
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Notice how my logic takes after the old Ballad Singer's
                                > > > words?
                                > > > > > (Burl Ives)
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > The Rainbow
                                > > > > > My friend the little Bluebird flew close
                                > > enough
                                > > > > > to see, what was written on the Rainbow, was
                                > > this
                                > > > > > philosophy -
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > "As you go through life make this your
                                > > > > > goal, watch the doughnut, and not the hole!"
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > America has forged the best society, the most
                                productive
                                > > > labor
                                > > > > > force, the smartest commercial enterprises and the free-
                                est
                                > > > > > communities in the world. All the rest are trying to
                                catch
                                > up
                                > > > by
                                > > > > > tearing us down, and we have some of our enemies within
                                our
                                > > > > society
                                > > > > > that fail to realize this. The old concept of "The Loyal
                                > > > > Opposition"
                                > > > > > no longer exists, they are now the "dis-loyal opposition",
                                > led
                                > > > by
                                > > > > > Nancy Pelosi, Tom Dashle, Henry Waxman and Terry
                                McAuliffe.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Not only do they cut down our present Administration,
                                but
                                > > > attack
                                > > > > > the very foundations of American Values. they have no
                                vision
                                > > for
                                > > > > the
                                > > > > > future except a return of the DEMOCRATS TO POLITICAL
                                POWER,
                                > > > using
                                > > > > > tired old liberal cliches and a longin for Hillery, Bill,
                                > and
                                > > > > Monica
                                > > > > > in the West Wing of the white House. It would be no great
                                > > > surprise
                                > > > > > to me if they proposed "painting the White House to a
                                > > Rainbow",
                                > > > > > Motif.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Tip
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, devas666
                                > > <no_reply@y...>
                                > > > > > wrote:
                                > > > > > > But Best, sweety, you forget that all countries truly
                                just
                                > > > want
                                > > > > to
                                > > > > > > be americans. It is the desire of every single man and
                                > > woman,
                                > > > > > child
                                > > > > > > and old person who are born outside of the great ol
                                United
                                > > > > > States.
                                > > > > > > World peace would be a definite result if we all become
                                > > > > > americans.
                                > > > > > > Cuz them yankees sure are peaceful.
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > ...6:58 are you sure where my spark is...
                                > > > > > > devas
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, bestonnet_00
                                > > > > > <no_reply@y...>
                                > > > > > > wrote:
                                > > > > > > > Besides I doubt many countries would apply. Even the
                                > ones
                                > > > > that
                                > > > > > > would
                                > > > > > > > be let in.
                                > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, "Don Tipton"
                                > > > > > > > <gizzard2003@y...> wrote:
                                > > > > > > > > Hi Maurice: (Tip)
                                > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > > Wow! Now that is a different approach,
                                but
                                > > the
                                > > > > > > naysayers
                                > > > > > > > > would probably flay us alive over the subject of
                                > Empire
                                > > > > > > building,
                                > > > > > > > > worldwide, eh?
                                > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > > Best regards,
                                > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > > Tip
                                > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, Maurice
                                > Temples
                                > > > > > > > > <mctempedocles@y...> wrote:
                                > > > > > > > > > Hey Tip, What if the United States were to
                                > allow
                                > > > > other
                                > > > > > > > > nations to apply for statehood? That way, they'd
                                have
                                > > to
                                > > > > meet
                                > > > > > > the
                                > > > > > > > > same requirements our own territories once had to
                                meet
                                > > in
                                > > > > > > applying
                                > > > > > > > > for statehood, that is, constitutional government
                                > > > organized
                                > > > > > > under
                                > > > > > > > > the Constitution and laws of the United States.
                                Might
                                > > go
                                > > > a
                                > > > > > long
                                > > > > > > way
                                > > > > > > > > towards bringing about peace. Just a thought,Maurice
                                > > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------
                                > > > > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
                                > > > > > > > > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
                                > > > > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
                                removed]
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