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Re: [Death To Religion] The Value of Christianity

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  • bestonnet_00
    ... How about not assuming I write stuff I don t presume?
    Message 1 of 52 , Feb 21, 2011
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      --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, Richard Godwin <meta@...> wrote:
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      > Well then, don't write stuff that presumes that.

      How about not assuming I write stuff I don't presume?
    • praesto12
      It may be funny  or not. It doesn t much matter.  Richard ________________________________ From: julieg To:
      Message 52 of 52 , Mar 25, 2011
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        It may be funny  or not. It doesn't much matter.
         Richard




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        From: julieg <devasma@...>
        To: deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 9:51:49 PM
        Subject: Re: [Death To Religion] The Value of Christianity is awesome!

         
        This may be the funniest post ever.

        --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, praesto12 <Praesto12@...> wrote:
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        > A "Witch" is an individual that uses "sorcery", which possibly means drugs, to

        > actively destroy and pull Individuals, including children, through satanic and

        > paganistic practices away from God. That's the general, very broad
        >definitions.
        >
        > I could go to the hebrew and discuss that as well.
        >
        >
        >  I think cult leaders like manson and jim jones would fit the bill in
        > contemporary terms. 
        >  Richard
        >
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        >
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: kaylee coats <sumluvlifilth@...>
        > To: deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 3:41:32 PM
        > Subject: Re: [Death To Religion] The Value of Christianity
        >
        >  
        > No, I'm just saying that the same people who are known for adultery and
        > pedophilia shouldn't be making the rules for the rest of us.
        >
        > On a side note, I also realize I didn't respond to the witch thing. So, what do
        >
        > you define as a witch that needs to be burned? I define witches as people who
        > practice an ancient religion. If you burn them, you're saying that it's okay to
        >
        > burn anyone of any other religion aside from Christianity.
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: praesto12 <Praesto12@...>
        > To: deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 9:46:42 PM
        > Subject: Re: [Death To Religion] The Value of Christianity
        >
        > So people mess up marriages, therefor all sexual relationships are allowable?
        > No. Of course not.
        >
        > Safe sex is better than doing nothing. Safe sex within the loving
        > commited context of marriage is better. Especially if they are practicing
        > Christians!
        > It's the best way! There is no hope outside of Christ. As you know.
        >
        > Richard
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: kaylee coats <sumluvlifilth@...>
        > To: deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 11:47:12 PM
        > Subject: Re: [Death To Religion] The Value of Christianity
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        > You still have disease and unwanted children within marriage. Adultery is a
        >huge
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        >
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        > problem with married couples. In fact, I'm pretty sure that people who are
        > taught to have safe sex and that it is okay and accepted are less likely to
        >have
        >
        >
        >
        > a problem like disease and unwanted pregnancy.
        >
        > No, it is not denying instinct to have morality, in fact real morality is the
        > opposite. It is instinctive to cats, for instance, to want to save the lives of
        >
        > infant animals, even of other species, by nursing them if they are able to do
        > so. It is instinctive for me to not harm another person even if I have the
        > fleeting desire to do so. Why? Not because god told me so, or any other force.
        >A
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        > conscience is an inborn thing. As soon as people are developed enough to
        >realize
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        > that others have feelings (this is not taught but realized naturally through
        > development) a conscience begins to form. It is INSTINCTIVE, as is any thought

        > process that a person or animal is not taught but comes across naturally.
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: praesto12 <Praesto12@...>
        > To: deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 8:36:07 PM
        > Subject: Re: [Death To Religion] The Value of Christianity
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        > Depends on what you mean by a "witch." And yes No Sex before marriage is a
        > important "value." Imagine all the diseases and unwanted kids that come from
        > people have sexual relationships outside of marriage. There was a son that was

        > killed for sin....
        >
        > Christianity is broad term. Chruch history is full of people manipulating other
        >
        >
        > people. So is political history and social history. This doesn't mean that all

        > political thought and all social thought is wrong....burn...
        >
        > What people know "instinictively" is to kill and steal and do whatever to
        > survive. It's only in denying out "instinct" that we have any sense
        > of "morality."
        >
        > Richard
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: kaylee coats <sumluvlifilth@...>
        > To: deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 9:26:59 PM
        > Subject: Re: [Death To Religion] The Value of Christianity
        >
        > Oh, so morals like burning witches and no sex before marriage are real and
        > important. What about taking unruly sons outside the city gates and stoning
        >them
        >
        >
        >
        > to death?
        >
        > Christianity isn't full of real morals, it's full of control-tatics. Real
        >morals
        >
        >
        >
        > are what people know instictively as right and wrong, not advice given by men
        > who saw other people as property or chattel to control.
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: Richard Godwin <meta@...>
        > To: deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 5:15:24 PM
        > Subject: Re: [Death To Religion] The Value of Christianity
        >
        > Christian moral values are real and important. But belief in myths and
        > doctrines is of very little if any value.
        >
        > Richard.
        >
        > On 2/20/2011 5:07 PM, Jack wrote:
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        > > I lost my faith after studying the history of Christianity, but I
        > > never lost my appreciation of the faith. T have very fond thoughts of
        > > my church and the congregation who played such an important part in my
        > > life. When I came out as an atheist late in life and attempted to join
        > > other atheists, I was upset with the amazingly antagonistic attitude
        > > that many atheists expressed.
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        > > I would like to discuss with anybody the values of Christianity and
        > > the many objections to religion that atheists quite commonly present.
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