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8790Re: [Death To Religion] a call to atheist action

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  • Damon
    May 14, 2004
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      Vino,

      I know we are going under a spiritual upheval here in the US but out
      of curiosity how is Atheism viewed in your country? Do you feel
      threatened or made an outsider?

      --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, vinodh <vinodhrathnaa@y...>
      wrote:
      >
      > I appreciate you proposal and I am fully with this
      > group. I am in India- New delhi, Please suggest me to
      > join a group active here in India.
      > Regards
      > Vinodhrathnaa
      >
      >
      > --- madlinguistics <madlinguistics@y...> wrote:
      > > A Call to All
      > > Atheists.
      > > We have sat complacently too long. We must be
      > > silent no longer.
      > > Religion continues to plague the world and propagate
      > > itself,
      > > manipulating religious caused problems as proof of
      > > the need for
      > > religion. We must step forward and show the falsity
      > > of their lies at the
      > > same level that they spread their missionaries.
      > > In order to begin to undo the damage of
      > > fundamentalism, we must
      > > begin to organize our ranks and systematically point
      > > out the errors of
      > > all religions. We must put their lies on the
      > > streets and hand them to
      > > passers-by. Even in the religious churches and
      > > schools. Atheists have
      > > been accused in the past of "infiltrating" churches
      > > to "draw the flock
      > > away." I say we should make good on it. Leave
      > > leaflets around the
      > > church pointing out contradictions, brutality,
      > > sexism, etc. Teenagers
      > > are more likely to realize the lies, opposed to
      > > someone being in the
      > > church 22 years would rather consciously fool
      > > himself than admit he
      > > was deceived. Christian bookstores, religious
      > > sections at bookstores
      > > and libraries, under windshield wipers, especially
      > > in religion-prone areas,
      > > are prime locations for the undoing. The more noise
      > > they make about
      > > us, the more known what we are doing will be. I
      > > have seen comics
      > > books like the ones the Christians hand out, but
      > > about how bullshit it
      > > really is. We will not be ignored.
      > > All religions have flaws in their writings.
      > > Some, like the Mormons,
      > > hide them or say that God told them to change it.
      > > The Christians ignore
      > > it, and the mistakes in the Q'oran go unnoticed. We
      > > must put them
      > > under a light for all to see. The Bible says that
      > > there are fools that
      > > would not believe the truth not matter what. They
      > > are right, but not all
      > > are like that.
      > > I propose organizing with something like the
      > > "Atheist Meetup" group
      > > (atheist.meetup.com) They are in every city. We can
      > > start with a core
      > > of these and we can only grow. The atheist who does
      > > not know why he
      > > is the only one susceptible to them. In schools,
      > > churches, workplaces,
      > > to the streets we will go. We will put superstition
      > > in the museum of
      > > history where it belongs.
      > >
      > > -Cipher
      > > "Every religion in the world believes that every
      > > other religion is nothing
      > > but superstition. And they're all correct." -Bob
      > > Avakian.
      > >
      > >
      > > Print this one as a leaflet
      > >
      > > Why the Bible is not true.
      > > There are many parts of the Bible that directly
      > > contradict each other in a
      > > way that could not be of a god, but a man, a very
      > > erred man at that.
      > > *For example, the prophecies of the old testament
      > > state that the
      > > Messiah will be born of a virgin and will be of the
      > > line of David (Isaiah
      > > 7:14.) But in Luke 3:23 and Matthew 1:16 the Bible
      > > clearly states that
      > > Joseph, the step father of Jesus, was of the line of
      > > David. But that
      > > would make Jesus NOT of the line of David or NOT a
      > > virgin birth. If
      > > either is not true, which they both cannot be, that
      > > would mean the
      > > Jesus is NOT the Messiah.
      > > *Jesus told his disciples: "Verily I say unto you,
      > > there be those of you
      > > that stand here that shall not taste death until you
      > > see the Son of God
      > > coming in his Kingdom." (Matthew16:28) Obviously,
      > > they are all dead
      > > and the Son of God did not come in his Kingdom. God
      > > wouldn't make a
      > > mistake like that would he?
      > > * Jesus said that like Jonah in the whale, so he too
      > > would be in the belly
      > > of the earth for three days and three nights.
      > > (Matthew 12:40) But the
      > > story of his resurrection, according to the Bible,
      > > is that he was put in
      > > the cave Friday and arose Sunday morning, making it
      > > two nights, not
      > > three. God wouldn't get that wrong.
      > > *According to the prophecies of Ezekiel, Elijah
      > > would return before
      > > Jesus. Many Christians point to John the Baptist as
      > > the "voice in the
      > > wilderness," but in John 1:19-21, John the Baptist
      > > clearly states that he
      > > is NOT the returned Elijah, thus contradicting
      > > Matthew 17:10-13, when
      > > Matthew claims that John the Baptist is Elijah.
      > > Human error, not
      > > divine. Gods don't make mistakes.
      > > *The purpose of Jesus' coming changes throughout his
      > > journey as well.
      > > In Matthew 10:5-6 he tells his disciples not to
      > > enter the city of any
      > > Gentile, but to save the lost sheep of Israel. When
      > > a Gentile woman
      > > approached him asking to heal her son, he said that
      > > "It is not right to
      > > take from the children and give to the dogs."
      > > Accepting that she was a
      > > dog, she replied that even dogs get food from the
      > > masters table. For
      > > this he told her that she had great faith. Later,
      > > after realizing that he
      > > has been rejected by the Jews, he makes his "Go ye
      > > forth, and make
      > > disciples of all men." This shift was to save face,
      > > as to not die another
      > > Joseph Smith of David Koresh of his time.
      > > *The events after he rose from the tomb are also
      > > inconsistent. Mark
      > > 16:8 says that those who discovered Jesus alive told
      > > no one, and others
      > > say that they told everyone. The people present are
      > > also inconsistent.
      > > *Acts 2:5 says that there were Jews in Jerusalem
      > > from "every nation
      > > under heaven." Need I say more. All they knew of
      > > was the immediate
      > > surroundings. That's why there is no record of a
      > > flood in Egypt that
      > > destroyed everything, during the time period that
      > > they were building
      > > pyramids, but the Bible says it destroyed everything
      > > on earth. Human
      > > ignorance.
      > > *Most people have heard the story of the tower of
      > > Babel as the origin of
      > > langauge. The chapter before, Gen 10, states that
      > > the sons of Noah
      > > scattered across the earth according to language and
      > > dialect ("speech
      > > and tongue") The next chapter claims that all the
      > > people of the earth
      > > spoke the same tongue. This cannot be. Divine
      > > inspiration? Human
      > > error.
      > > *The "Mosaic" books, the first five of the Christian
      > > Bible, and those of
      > > the Torah, are said to be written by Moses. But he
      > > dies in
      > > Deuteronemy 34:5-end of chapter. The discrepancies
      > > about the origin of
      > > language eliminate the possibility that he wrote the
      > > whole thing, but that
      > > he dies during his own story makes it impossible for
      > > even an idiot to
      > > believe that he wrote it.
      > > The Bible is full of things like these, and horror
      > > stories about raiding
      > > villages, killing everyone and "taking the virgins,
      > > (Beth-giliad) or
      > > kidnapping the virgins when they came to a feast
      > > (Judges 21,) all by
      > > divine order. Nice God.
      > > *In Genesis 7:8, Lot, the one holy man in the city
      > > of Sodom, offers his
      > > daughters to be gang-raped by a mob outside his
      > > house. For his faith,
      > > Lot is spared and the city was destroyed.
      > > The men that still propagate this book do it for
      > > what religion has always
      > > been used for; control. Why are North Africa and
      > > the Middle East
      > > Muslim, Europe some sect of Christianity, North
      > > America became
      > > Protestant, Latin America became Catholic, Eastern
      > > Europe became
      > > Orthodox, India Hindu, etc. Religious tradition is
      > > none other than
      > > expression of military empire.
      > >
      > > -Cipher
      > >
      > >
      > > In order to put a stop to these lies, we must
      > > organize the same way that
      > > religious people do, distribute things like these,
      > > until this virus is no
      > > longer able to spread.
      > > I suggest checking out a local atheist group near
      > > you.
      > > http://atheists.meetup.com/
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      > =====
      > VINODH
      >
      >
      >
      >
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