8790Re: [Death To Religion] a call to atheist action
- May 14, 2004Vino,
I know we are going under a spiritual upheval here in the US but out
of curiosity how is Atheism viewed in your country? Do you feel
threatened or made an outsider?
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, vinodh <vinodhrathnaa@y...>
> I appreciate you proposal and I am fully with this
> group. I am in India- New delhi, Please suggest me to
> join a group active here in India.
> --- madlinguistics <madlinguistics@y...> wrote:
> > A Call to All
> > Atheists.
> > We have sat complacently too long. We must be
> > silent no longer.
> > Religion continues to plague the world and propagate
> > itself,
> > manipulating religious caused problems as proof of
> > the need for
> > religion. We must step forward and show the falsity
> > of their lies at the
> > same level that they spread their missionaries.
> > In order to begin to undo the damage of
> > fundamentalism, we must
> > begin to organize our ranks and systematically point
> > out the errors of
> > all religions. We must put their lies on the
> > streets and hand them to
> > passers-by. Even in the religious churches and
> > schools. Atheists have
> > been accused in the past of "infiltrating" churches
> > to "draw the flock
> > away." I say we should make good on it. Leave
> > leaflets around the
> > church pointing out contradictions, brutality,
> > sexism, etc. Teenagers
> > are more likely to realize the lies, opposed to
> > someone being in the
> > church 22 years would rather consciously fool
> > himself than admit he
> > was deceived. Christian bookstores, religious
> > sections at bookstores
> > and libraries, under windshield wipers, especially
> > in religion-prone areas,
> > are prime locations for the undoing. The more noise
> > they make about
> > us, the more known what we are doing will be. I
> > have seen comics
> > books like the ones the Christians hand out, but
> > about how bullshit it
> > really is. We will not be ignored.
> > All religions have flaws in their writings.
> > Some, like the Mormons,
> > hide them or say that God told them to change it.
> > The Christians ignore
> > it, and the mistakes in the Q'oran go unnoticed. We
> > must put them
> > under a light for all to see. The Bible says that
> > there are fools that
> > would not believe the truth not matter what. They
> > are right, but not all
> > are like that.
> > I propose organizing with something like the
> > "Atheist Meetup" group
> > (atheist.meetup.com) They are in every city. We can
> > start with a core
> > of these and we can only grow. The atheist who does
> > not know why he
> > is the only one susceptible to them. In schools,
> > churches, workplaces,
> > to the streets we will go. We will put superstition
> > in the museum of
> > history where it belongs.
> > -Cipher
> > "Every religion in the world believes that every
> > other religion is nothing
> > but superstition. And they're all correct." -Bob
> > Avakian.
> > Print this one as a leaflet
> > Why the Bible is not true.
> > There are many parts of the Bible that directly
> > contradict each other in a
> > way that could not be of a god, but a man, a very
> > erred man at that.
> > *For example, the prophecies of the old testament
> > state that the
> > Messiah will be born of a virgin and will be of the
> > line of David (Isaiah
> > 7:14.) But in Luke 3:23 and Matthew 1:16 the Bible
> > clearly states that
> > Joseph, the step father of Jesus, was of the line of
> > David. But that
> > would make Jesus NOT of the line of David or NOT a
> > virgin birth. If
> > either is not true, which they both cannot be, that
> > would mean the
> > Jesus is NOT the Messiah.
> > *Jesus told his disciples: "Verily I say unto you,
> > there be those of you
> > that stand here that shall not taste death until you
> > see the Son of God
> > coming in his Kingdom." (Matthew16:28) Obviously,
> > they are all dead
> > and the Son of God did not come in his Kingdom. God
> > wouldn't make a
> > mistake like that would he?
> > * Jesus said that like Jonah in the whale, so he too
> > would be in the belly
> > of the earth for three days and three nights.
> > (Matthew 12:40) But the
> > story of his resurrection, according to the Bible,
> > is that he was put in
> > the cave Friday and arose Sunday morning, making it
> > two nights, not
> > three. God wouldn't get that wrong.
> > *According to the prophecies of Ezekiel, Elijah
> > would return before
> > Jesus. Many Christians point to John the Baptist as
> > the "voice in the
> > wilderness," but in John 1:19-21, John the Baptist
> > clearly states that he
> > is NOT the returned Elijah, thus contradicting
> > Matthew 17:10-13, when
> > Matthew claims that John the Baptist is Elijah.
> > Human error, not
> > divine. Gods don't make mistakes.
> > *The purpose of Jesus' coming changes throughout his
> > journey as well.
> > In Matthew 10:5-6 he tells his disciples not to
> > enter the city of any
> > Gentile, but to save the lost sheep of Israel. When
> > a Gentile woman
> > approached him asking to heal her son, he said that
> > "It is not right to
> > take from the children and give to the dogs."
> > Accepting that she was a
> > dog, she replied that even dogs get food from the
> > masters table. For
> > this he told her that she had great faith. Later,
> > after realizing that he
> > has been rejected by the Jews, he makes his "Go ye
> > forth, and make
> > disciples of all men." This shift was to save face,
> > as to not die another
> > Joseph Smith of David Koresh of his time.
> > *The events after he rose from the tomb are also
> > inconsistent. Mark
> > 16:8 says that those who discovered Jesus alive told
> > no one, and others
> > say that they told everyone. The people present are
> > also inconsistent.
> > *Acts 2:5 says that there were Jews in Jerusalem
> > from "every nation
> > under heaven." Need I say more. All they knew of
> > was the immediate
> > surroundings. That's why there is no record of a
> > flood in Egypt that
> > destroyed everything, during the time period that
> > they were building
> > pyramids, but the Bible says it destroyed everything
> > on earth. Human
> > ignorance.
> > *Most people have heard the story of the tower of
> > Babel as the origin of
> > langauge. The chapter before, Gen 10, states that
> > the sons of Noah
> > scattered across the earth according to language and
> > dialect ("speech
> > and tongue") The next chapter claims that all the
> > people of the earth
> > spoke the same tongue. This cannot be. Divine
> > inspiration? Human
> > error.
> > *The "Mosaic" books, the first five of the Christian
> > Bible, and those of
> > the Torah, are said to be written by Moses. But he
> > dies in
> > Deuteronemy 34:5-end of chapter. The discrepancies
> > about the origin of
> > language eliminate the possibility that he wrote the
> > whole thing, but that
> > he dies during his own story makes it impossible for
> > even an idiot to
> > believe that he wrote it.
> > The Bible is full of things like these, and horror
> > stories about raiding
> > villages, killing everyone and "taking the virgins,
> > (Beth-giliad) or
> > kidnapping the virgins when they came to a feast
> > (Judges 21,) all by
> > divine order. Nice God.
> > *In Genesis 7:8, Lot, the one holy man in the city
> > of Sodom, offers his
> > daughters to be gang-raped by a mob outside his
> > house. For his faith,
> > Lot is spared and the city was destroyed.
> > The men that still propagate this book do it for
> > what religion has always
> > been used for; control. Why are North Africa and
> > the Middle East
> > Muslim, Europe some sect of Christianity, North
> > America became
> > Protestant, Latin America became Catholic, Eastern
> > Europe became
> > Orthodox, India Hindu, etc. Religious tradition is
> > none other than
> > expression of military empire.
> > -Cipher
> > In order to put a stop to these lies, we must
> > organize the same way that
> > religious people do, distribute things like these,
> > until this virus is no
> > longer able to spread.
> > I suggest checking out a local atheist group near
> > you.
> > http://atheists.meetup.com/
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