8663Re: [Death To Religion] spirituality
- Sep 20, 2003twoedgedsword:
There was a young lady here who asked for some input
regarding atheism and some specific situations in her
life. I gave her mine. And now you waltz in and try
to piss all over it. Get an idea.
> pretty large logical conundrum there. Without aThe conundrum is "what were you thinking?" Let's see
> finite "set" of
> morals, how can you measure (as in "more moral") the
> morality of one
> kind over another?
now: without a finite set of inches, how can you
measure the inchness of one inch over another? I
suppose you think inches were handed down from some
god or built into the fabric of the universe rather
than being established by the big toe of some dead
British ruler. Your "measure" is arbitrary, therefore
relative. How would you find out how many inches your
brain weighs? There's no translation. But it's
entirely possible to determine the accuracy of
measurements in terms of the scales being used for
those measurements, and then to compare those
accuracies to determine which one might be the more
accurate. So what's the conundrum? If you subscribe
to a 10-point moral code but comply with only 5, and I
subscribe to a 12-point moral code but comply with 9,
who's "more moral?"
> You could be a UU - then you can invent whateverWhy would you measure try to measure the weight of
> definition of
> morality you wish and therefore your statement of
> you and your kind
> being *more moral* than another kind would be true
your brain in inches?
> By inferrence, you seem to state that 'believers'I'm sorry if I only "inferred" it. I'll state it
> are not free from
> those rituals or dogmas, even superstitions.
explicitly: Believers are not free of rituals, dogmas,
and superstitions. Is that better?
> characterizes everyYou're not really awake, are you? Those are *exactly*
> religious order as having those attributes. That's
> an incorrect
> attribution - and blatantly so.
the things that define a religion.
> You know, I'm always telling my kids "Behave willSo? Are you one of those parents who thinks good
> ya?". I guess
> behavior is important afterall. Where do I get such
> a notion?????
> Thank God for atheism then?
behavior includes strapping a bomb to your chest and
blowing innocent people up? Thank reason for atheism.
> But on "articles of faith"? Just put your hand onOh. I guess that answers my question. You're one of
> the left side of
> your chest, feel your heart beating, and understand
> that there's no
> escape from faith as long as that machine's pumping
> man - like it or
those neanderthals who don't take their kids to the
doctor when they need it. Get an idea, man.
> 'Plllllease.... ANYTHING But GOD, ack!'.Cool! The only thing you've said that comes close to
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