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  • bestonnet_00
    Apr 9, 2008
      --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, J_E_N_O_V_A_s_witness wrote:
      > --- In deathtoreligion@yahoogroups.com, bestonnet_00 wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > > Uh, you do realise that Gore almost won (and had the US have been
      > > doing elections the way it should have been he would've won but
      > > the stupid electoral college still exists).
      > >
      > Gore DID win, you can't just blame the electoral college.

      Probably true although without the electoral college it would have
      been much more obvious.

      > Sure, Bush won more "big" states while Gore had more individual
      > votes (Gore won the popular vote; most of the states he won by large
      > margins, while most of the states Bush won were close calls). But
      > there is massive evidence of voting machines being tampered with,
      > write-in votes for Gore being thrown out as being "illegible and
      > uncountable", absentee and oversees military votes not getting being
      > counted in time due to mysterious delays, large numbers of votes by
      > black democrats being thrown out because their names had slight
      > similarities to those of felons, and ballots being found dumped in
      > the woods.

      Source for that?

      The votes that were thrown out were invalid votes that should never
      have been counted in the first place. Both sides attempted to steal
      the election, it's just that only one side was actually stopped from
      doing it.

      > Dubya, his brother and buddies did a lot of work to steal the
      > election, the way the electoral college is set up just made it a
      > little easier for them. Bush broke the system, the US supreme court
      > and voting public seem to be too apathetic to fix it.

      The US Supreme Court did exactly what it should have done and said not
      to count invalid votes.

      What Bush did to steal the election was count postal votes that should
      not have been counted (and had they not been counted Gore would've won
      Florida). The Democrats made a mistake to try to get invalid votes
      counted would have been better off trying to make sure that all
      invalid votes were discarded.

      > I'm sure by "had the US have been doing elections the way it should
      > have been" you mean having each individual vote counting equally.

      Yes, which is how pretty much every other presidential system works.

      > Maybe Gore would have won if this was the case, or maybe the Bush
      > camp would've just cheated harder to win.

      There's a limit to how much you can cheat (and the rules set up before
      the election must be followed).
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