Re: working together - consulting teams
- [I share my letter to Cynthia Typaldos of
regarding working together.]
May we pick up where we left off?
I like your ideas on the ResumeBlog,
especially cobbling stuff together.
I just turned in a proposal to the Soros fund (OPI IP) for a "Social
Networking Kit" (optimized for marginal connectivity)
I'm back in Lithuania. After Tom Munnecke's GivingSpace.org meeting in
May, I gave a talk at BlogTalk.net in Vienna, then looked for Islamic
independent thinkers in Bosnia. I got involved in Franz Nahrada's
vision of a network of villages across the Balkans. I was an observer
at the constitutional assembly of the European Union of Telecottage
Associations. Also, I did some work in "measuring government
performance", in particular, the Chicago bus system, and wrote a related
team-building proposal "Rider's Angles"
I'm looking for work, especially that might relate to the "Social
Networking Kit". It would be very nice to cobble together parts of that
to serve our various communities, so I send a copy to my lab Minciu
Sodas, our working group Thinking Relevantly, and Bala Pillai's
MindEcos. I'm interested to work on something that helps us find work
and move our vision forward at the same time.
Cynthia Typaldos wrote:
> I saw a note from you that you will be here in Calif soon. I can't find the
> note for some reason.
> Anyway, let's meet when you are here rather than talk on the phone tomorrow
> (or today in your case).
> I will also be at Tom Munneke's meeting.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 1:08 PM
> To: cynthia@...
> Cc: WP; Jan Hauser; Jan S. Hauser; email@example.com
> Subject: Re: working together - consulting teams
> Cynthia Typaldos wrote (presumed copyright):
>>Thanks for your thoughtful response.
>>I will call you next week, how about at 9am PDT (if I've done my math
>>correctly this would be at 7pm Lithuanian time, not sure if that takes
>>into account that we just switched to daylight savings though).
> [Thursday, May 1st].
> Sounds good. (Cynthia, if you could please remind me the day before,
> then I'll know we'll both remember. You may think this absurd, but I
> don't have a date book! and very much don't want to have one!)
>>We are in the process of building a generalized prototype for
>>"professional guilds" that incorporates what we have learned from
>>creating and running SPM. Our main strength is going to be structure
>>and processes. Although there are some key new pieces of software we
>>plan to build, generally we intend to build upon what others have done
>>(e.g. Yahoo Groups, Quickbase, etc.) The guilds will be independent
>>entities owned and managed by their members who will be drawn from a
>>particular function (e.g. marketing) in a particular industry (e.g.
>>software) worldwide (not geographically based and completely virtually
>>run). Our company, Working Persona will provide the infrastructure.
>>I will also give you a free pass to the Collaborative Communities online
>>conference that I am participating in. In my talk (slides + audio) you
>>will learn a lot about my vision for online collaboration and you will
>>have full access to all of the other presentations.
> Thank you!
>>FYI, I am attending the MIT online reputation systems conference this
>>You may also want to sign up for my email distribution list at
>>Let me know if the date/time proposed above works for you.
> Yes, it does.
> Just something to think about:
> Scott Allen's http://www.opensourceenterprise.org
> materials for marketing open source software.
>>(this signature is in HTML format)
>>Cynthia Typaldos w Typaldos Consulting
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>>Founder & President, Software Product Marketing eGroup
>>Interview on About.com Entrepreneur section
>>| Blog <http://typaldos.blogspot.com/>
>>Founder, RealCommunities 1998 w Co-Founder GolfWeb 1995
>>ct@... w 408 867-8875 (office) w408 828-1370 (cell)
>>IM: buffypumpkinelsa w Saratoga, CA 95070
>>typaldos.com <http://www.typaldos.com/> w Instructor: UC Berkeley
>>Web Communities <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/webcommunities> "The way
>>to gain a good reputation is to endeavor to be what you desire to
>>From: Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@...]
>>Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:30 PM
>>Cc: WP; Jan Hauser; Jan S. Hauser; firstname.lastname@example.org
>>Subject: Re: working together - consulting teams
>>I've worked closely with Peter Kaminski, he is an Investigatorius at our
>>laboratory Minciu Sodas http://www.ms.lt, and he's always enthusiastic
>>about you as an organizer. I'm glad to be in touch, and to see how much
>>your team has developed. I'm very interested how we might work together.
>>I'm glad you found our working group http://www.ms.lt/openwork/ for
>>organizing an economy for working openly. I take the liberty to share
>>our letters there http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thinkingrelevantly/
>>Here are three directions that I think are promising financially (for
>>our lab - but they might open doors for you). In each case, the
>>advantage of "working openly" is that we function as team-builders. My
>>feeling is that if we work openly, then there's a lot of places that we
>>can infiltrate, (in a good sense), and so it's a long term way to build
>>a sales network.
>>1) Breaking through the corporate wall. Individual innovators could
>>offer service for corporations, but they'll never get through the door.
>> Corporations hire sharp thinkers and then smother them with a
>>suffocating culture. So we're offering to corporate thinkers an
>>international team building service, for $2,000 a year: 1 coach to help
>>them learn how to build a team by working openly ($1,000 a year), 5
>>instigators who help in different ways (5 x $200 a year) and 25 free
>>prizes (like TheBrain software) to get help, insight (typically,
>>answering questionnaires) from innovative people. So this is a way of
>>an individual innovator getting paid a minimal amount but getting their
>>foot in the door, I think. This service should pay for itself, our lab
>>takes 20% for administration. We have our first client! Ian Bruk, he
>>wants to develop a Living research report on how a company is doing.
>>2) Organizing an "open conspiracy" to organize partners and write
>>proposal to win all manner of funding, for example, from the European
>>Union (especially relevant in Eastern Europe). I'm proposing a fractal
>>approach which I describe at http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=5352 I
>>think for $2.2 million we could organize 20,000 people and win about $25
>>million in grants.
>>3) I'm starting a simple "initiative database" and "reputation system"
>>for our lab that I'd like to share with other groups. It helps us keep
>>track of people's projects and also lets people point to the "kind
>>words" in context on the web about what they've done:
>>I imagine that anybody can add "kind words", which are meant to be
>>excerpts from web pages, and pointers to those web pages, and who about
>>whom. I personally think such words have a lot of weight, if they
>>appear in context.
>>Members - people who belong to some participating organization - get to
>>register to identify themselves positively, and they get to include
>>frustrations about themselves. I think frustrations are a plus, because
>>they show balance, and sometimes in a positive way. So it's a privilege.
>> See the bottom of http://www.ms.lt/team/
>>Then pairs of members, I imagine, could participate in XpertWeb,
>>http://xpertweb.com where one works for the other (for pay, or for free)
>>with a "money back guarantee" for which they get in return a public
>>So this is a way of making explicit the reputation that you've all built
>>In general, our lab is a place where people "work for free" on what they
>>care about, and thereby build public relationships that we all can
>>leverage in making a living.
>>I'm in Lithuania, +370 (5) 2645950 which is +2 GMT, that is, 10 hours
>>ahead of California. It would be great if you could buy a phone card
>>and give me a call (it should be about 20 cents per minute). I'm around
>>in the evenings at least until midnight, and just about any time is
>>good, so please just pick a time.
>>I'm very interested how you think we might help your teams. Certainly
>>we could add an international angle, in which case I look forward to
>>working with our member Bala Pillai
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mindecos/ a Tamil from Malaysia in
>>Australia with an extensive network in South Asia and around the world.
>>+370 (5) 2645950
>>Cynthia Typaldos wrote: (presumed copyright)
>> > Andreas,
>> > Thanks for contacting me so quickly.
>> > We also want to add the capability of forming project teams to the
>> > Software Product Marketing (SPM) eGroup, especially as we expand to
>> > other functions with the software industry (e.g. engineering, sales,
>> > etc.) and then to other industries. We call this broader organization
>> > "WorkingPersona".
>> > The idea for doing projects was actually something that we figured out
>> > about 6 months ago when companies started approaching us for team-based
>> > consulting work. We have completed some of these projects for the
>> > companies that have approached us. So far, companies are all in the
>> > social software space and see SPM as a great testbed and source of
>> > talent to review their product offering. Right now we are doing these
>> > projects without charge to build our (the SPM) reputation however the
>> > consulting team is putting together a for-pay project proposal.
>> > Because I am a software management type of person what I have done is
>> > build an organization rather than build software. SPM eGroup has a
>> > complete management structure -- 15 or so people on the management team
>> > and over 100 active volunteers in teams, with a waiting list for
>> > volunteering of 40 people. We've also just signed up several key
>> > academics in the area of social networking and labor relations to be on
>> > our Scientific Advisory Board (they are listed on the site yet).
>> > I wonder if there is a way we can partner or even combine our efforts.
>> > I'd like to speak with you sometime this week (Tues, Wed or Thurs) and
>> > learn more about what you are doing and tell you more about our vision
>> > and where we want to go.
>> > Cynthia
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Cynthia Typaldos [mailto:cynthia@...]
>> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:50 AM
>> > To: Cynthia Typaldos
>> > Subject:
>> > Andrius Kulikauskas
>> > <http://www.ryze.com/view.php?who=AndriusKulikauskas>, 04/21/03:
>> > Hi Cynthia, I'm very interested in working together. Thank you for
>> > note. We're getting good interest in our team building services
>> > http://www.ms.lt/team/ I've just set up a system for initiatives and
>> > references http://www.ms.lt/en/work/initiatives.html and
>> > that we could expand and build together with other groups as well. I'm
>> > hoping to evolve this in the direction of XpertWeb
>> > http://www.voght.com/cgi-bin/pywiki?XpertWeb which I'm doing some