- ... The rest of us were quite perplexed at your placing Germanic somewhere in Siberia. Welcome to linguistics. ... Yes. The writers of antiquity have been mostMessage 1 of 149 , Apr 1, 2008View Source--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
>The rest of us were quite perplexed at your placing Germanic somewhere
> As regards the maps in wikipedia,
> I'm quite perplexed by the alleged level
> of geographical precision.
in Siberia. Welcome to linguistics.
> Is it really possible to reach such a preciseYes. The writers of antiquity have been most helpful.
> reconstruction of the positions of Germanic people ?
> It seems more precise that present-day mapping of Chadic.You might recall the standard classroom maps of Latin names of Gallic
tribes, reconstructed from those same writers. (As I asked the owner
of my favorite downtown cafe why she had that on the wall, she told me
it was 200 years old and bought in France for 50,000 kr. People are
> And my next question would be about Germanic dialectologyTo answer that question we must find out what languages they spoke,
> Does the position of the people on the map reflect
> the Germanic dialectal tree ?
which is one of the things George and myself are discussing. Watch
- ... Harrison & Harrison, _Surnames of the United Kingdom_, is not authoritative. It is in fact somewhat notorious for etymologizing on the modern forms ofMessage 149 of 149 , Oct 19, 2010View SourceAt 9:00:13 AM on Tuesday, October 19, 2010, Torsten wrote:
> I don't want to open this thread again; I'm adding thisHarrison & Harrison, _Surnames of the United Kingdom_, is
> posting to the tree since I found an authoritative quote
> on the subject, and I'd like to be able to locate that
> quote in the future.
> And it is:
> Harrison & Harrison
> Surnames of the United Kingdom:
> a concise etymological dictionary
not authoritative. It is in fact somewhat notorious for
etymologizing on the modern forms of surnames, and this
entry is an example. <Pendegast> is from <Prendergast>, the
name of a village and parish in Pembrokeshire and, as
<Prenderguest>, of what is now a farm in Berwickshire; early
instances of the byname include <de Prendergat'> 1225, <de
Prendrogest> 1354, <de Prendergest> ~1170, ~1240, 1325, and
<de Prendregast> 1296. The Scottish place-name is
associated at an early date with an Anglo-Norman family who
may have brought it from Wales. The etymology is unknown,
but the name is apparently P-Celtic, and the first element
may be <pren> 'tree'.