- --- In email@example.com, "afyangh" <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
>More likely *sal- > *hal-, as Rick says.
> > Personally, I've been puzzled by toponyms in *hal- and places of
> > salt extraction: Bad Hallein at Salzburg, Halle on the Saale
> > River.
> > Torsten
> If one accepts the idea that *sal "salt" is from *zah-l "sea"
> normally *z should be one form of PIE *H2,
> Then hal from *zahl is an archaism : H2 not lost altogether.
> What does Saale (River) stem from ?I don't know of an official etymology.
> Itself a variant of *zahl ?I'm afraid not. Btw I learned somewhere that the -ein < *-unja, which
> Do you a map of salt-extraction places sounding hal/sal ?
is old and rare, possibly not Germanic (Perk-unja > Hercynia,
Fergunja; wust-unja > Du. woestijn "desert", cf ChSl. pustynia "desert").
> > ... Btw I learned somewhere that the -ein < *-unja,
> > which is old and rare, possibly not Germanic (Perk-unja >
> > Hercynia, Fergunja; wust-unja > Du. woestijn "desert", cf ChSl.
> > pustynia "desert").
> To *perkW-unja "oak forest" (lit. "oak region") corresponds
> *bo:k-unja "beech forest" with the same suffix
> (with the forms 'Fagonia, Baconia, Boconia, Buconia, Bochonia,
> Buchovia, Bucha, Bocauna, Bucauna und Bucino' and in Caesar's DBG
> 'Silva Bacenis'; Grimm connects it with Bukovina).
> And BTW
> 'Der Sage nach hauste vor vielen Jahrhunderten im Zunderhart, einem
> grossen, tiefen Wald zwischen Rhön und Vogelsberg, das "Wilde Heer",
> das sich gegen seinen König erhoben hatte und aus seiner Heimat
> vertrieben wurde. Insbesondere der Ort Flieden, der am südlichen
> Rand des Zunderharts lag, wurde immer wieder von den wilden Horden
> "According to legend, several centuries ago Zunderhart, a great,
> deep forest between Rhön and Vogelsberg, was haunted by the 'Wild
> Army', which had risen against its king and had been driven out of
> its homeland. In particular the village of Flieden, situated at the
> southern edge of Zunderhart, was time and again haunted by the wild
> Ariovistus (etc.) again. Buchonia is just north of the Wetterau, the
> valley by which he must have arrived at the Rhine.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:
> Perku-nja instead of Perk-unja?
I don't understand your question.