-leben/-lev/-löv and -ung-
- I've uploaded (folder -leben,-lev,-löv and -ung-) two maps from
Udolph: Namenkundliche Studien zum Germanenproblem,
showing the distribution, repectively, of names in -leben,-lev,-löv
and in -ung-.
I'd like to point out that in Germania they almost don't overlap, but
are concentrated in two large lumps opposing each other west of
Thuringia. Both name types are concentrated west of the river Elbe.
Further there is a large gap between the -leben names in Thuringia and
environs and the -lev/-löv names of southern Scandinavia. All this
fits in nicely with a theory that the -leben/-lev/-löv names belong to
the languages of invaders from the east, who later gave up their
territory when Germania became a Roman province up to the Elbe, moving
to southern Scandinavia to claim new land (many of the non-Christian
PNs that make up the first element of the -leben names recur in the
-lev/-löv names, as if the same guy had claimed land twice), and that
the -ung- names are older, possibly Vasconic/Old European (?, cf
relevant since the place name suffix *-ing- is homonymous with the
Germanic verbal noun suffix *-ing- (does in exist in Gothic?) and
could have been derived similarly.
Beside many examples of placenames in -ung- with opaque first
elements, Udolph has also
Usingen, 8th cent. Osinga, Osungen, Osanga, Oasunge;
Uhry, 1022 Wurungen, Wurungon, ca. 1150 Uerincge, 1318 Vringe
Wasungen, 874 Uuasunga
of which the first element seems to be *was-, *wo:s- "wasteland"
and the discussion starting at
which I (following Venneman) also suspect of being
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@...> wrote:
> --- In email@example.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@>
> > So, then, is Thuringian a dialect where /t/ did not
> > change to /c/?
> AFAIK Thuringian was affected by the second shift. The presented
> exposee (esp. the link Thuringi Tervingi) seems therefore
> to me. On the whole I'd agree now with Piotr and others that theUnless *tur- + whatever isn't Germanic, but a loan, pre-Grimm in the
> phonetically correct form in NHG should be *Düringer < *Þuringôz.
> No connection with Go. *Tairwiggos [terwingôs].
case of *Þuringo:z, post for terwingo:z.