## Re: Diphthong Distributions

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• ... If the Hittites chose /da/ over /ta/ purely for writing convenience, why did they write /ta/ not /da/ for the pret. 2sg,3sg suffix? How does one explain
Message 1 of 34 , Nov 5, 2006
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Jens Elmegård Rasmussen <elme@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
>
> > > I believe the received wisdom is that PIE *dh, *d, *t > Hittite
> t.
> > > This doesn't look like that at all.
>
> The received wisdom is indeed that, in initial position. Internally,
> we have *d/dh > -t-, and *t > -tt- by Sturtevant's law. There are of
> course also the special rules that *ti > zi, while *dhi > ti, and
> apparently *di > si (Sius < *diews), which must have been separated
> before the merger.
>
> When we find a statistic preponderance of ti-/te- and da- (as in
> tehhi, daitti, da:i), it is at least in part a matter of pure
> graphics. The signs TA and DA are homophonous in Hittite, but DA and
> TI are each one wedge simpler than TA and TI, and TE is very much
> simpler than DÉ (DE is not used by the Hittites). Therefore,
> the "default" way of writing /ta/, /te/ and /ti/ in Hittite is by
> the signs DA, TE and TI (but see below).

If the Hittites chose /da/ over /ta/ purely for writing convenience,
why did they write /ta/ not /da/ for the pret. 2sg,3sg suffix?
How does one explain da-a-is^-ta with both /da/ and /ta/?

Torsten
• ... It s impv 3sg -d/tu(presumably), 3pl -andu. Assuming 3sg -d/tu varied with the voicedness of the auslaut of the preceding root, 3pl would be consistently
Message 34 of 34 , Nov 9, 2006
> Good point. Still, the imperative ends in -du more often than -tu,
> even after -s-, and <tu> is a much more complicated sign than <du>,
> so complexity seems to be a factor.

It's impv 3sg -d/tu(presumably), 3pl -andu. Assuming 3sg -d/tu
varied with the voicedness of the auslaut of the preceding
root, 3pl would be consistently -andu with a /d/. Since DU would
be in majority over a competing TU, it would be chosen to represent
the meaning 'imperative'. Call it an etymological spelling, if you
like. Cf. that ZI occurs in both 3sg and 3pl.

Torsten
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