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Re: [tied] Stative/Perfect; Indo-European /r/

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  • Piotr Gasiorowski
    ... And cf. *tr Iranian *þr Old Persian ç (eventually s) Piotr
    Message 1 of 81 , Mar 2, 2005
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      On 05-03-02 09:02, Miguel Carrasquer wrote:

      > Even the peculiar affrication of initial tr- is not unique
      > to English. The country of Chile was named after the
      > Araucanian (Mapundungu) word Trile. In Chilean Spanish, tr-
      > is affricated as in English (perhaps an effect of the
      > Araucanian substrate)...

      And cf. *tr > Iranian *þr > Old Persian ç (eventually > s)

      Piotr
    • tgpedersen
      ... Well, then I ll do a 180 and claim that both are related to the *pah2- root. Torsten
      Message 81 of 81 , Apr 25 2:07 AM
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        --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@s...>
        wrote:
        > At 10:37:17 AM on Saturday, April 23, 2005, elmeras2000
        > wrote:
        >
        > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen"
        > > <tgpedersen@h...> wrote:
        >
        > >>>> cf. ON beita "let graze".
        >
        > >>> What's wrong with the usual explanation of it as a
        > >>> causative of <bíta> 'to bite'?
        >
        > >> I don't like the semantics. "Make bite"? You'd expect
        > >> "bite" itself to turn up in connection with grazing, but
        > >> it doesn't, afaIk.
        >
        > > But as far as Zoëga's ON Dictionary knows it does. The
        > > first idiom given under bíta is bíta gras or just bíta,
        > > meaning 'graze'.
        >
        > And Cleasby, Vigfússon, & Craigie adds to that, citing <bíta
        > gras>, <bíta lauf> ('leaf, foliage'), and <bíta skóg>
        > ('wood') from Grágás and <hvar hestar þínir bitu gras> from
        > Vatnsdæla saga.
        >

        Well, then I'll do a 180 and claim that both are related to the
        *pah2- root.

        Torsten
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