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  • Bill
    Must be the very secret flying red-nails style.
    Message 1 of 12 , Jul 28, 2008
      Must be the very secret flying red-nails style.
    • David Ring
      I think what people mean is that it feels tippy as if it were going to fall over. What it actually does is slide around because the base is narrower and
      Message 2 of 12 , Jul 28, 2008
        I think what people mean is that it feels "tippy" as if it were going
        to fall over. What it actually does is slide around because the base
        is narrower and weighs less.

        73

        DR

        On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Bill <w2blc@...> wrote:
        > I have read many posts that make comments about Blue Racers tipping
        > over, rocking, moving all over the desk, etc. What gives with that?
        >
        > I recently bought a '62 model and really like it. I was able to set it
        > very light - as I have my VizBug - and it shows no signs of any
        > movement.
        >
        > My bugs are a little heavier to operate than my Vibroplex single lever
        > paddle - but not that much. I sure don't look like some of the "you-
        > Tube" examples slapping the bug around like it is an enemy.
        >
        > Am I missing something here?
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > ------------------------------------
        >
        > Yahoo! Groups Links
        >
        >
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      • Earl Needham
        ... If it s the one I m thinking of, that was Denise Stoops -- I think that s her first name -- one of the commercial ops at KPH and a VERY good op. I didn t
        Message 3 of 12 , Jul 29, 2008
          hermit wrote:
          >
          >
          > Sounds like someone is slapping their bug with a vengence. I have a
          > Vibroplex Anniversary bug and a VizBug and I get no movement at all. I
          > remember some time ago watching a video of a lady using a bug and she
          > had really long finger nails. She was slappin' that thing like it was
          > her husband - funniest thing I ever saw. Sure wish I could remember
          > what site I saw that on. Sure is worth a look-agn. Hi.

          If it's the one I'm thinking of, that was Denise Stoops -- I think
          that's her first name -- one of the commercial ops at KPH and a VERY
          good op. I didn't laugh too much while listening to her code and
          wishing I could operate enough to do that, too!

          I'm surprised DR hasn't mentioned this yet...

          7 3
          Earl

          --
          KD5XB -- Earl Needham
          Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
          Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT
        • k4oso
          Earl, I m sure DR has mentioned Denise. By the way, she has a given a name to her Vibroplex Deluxe Original,...... Little Dick . Milt
          Message 4 of 12 , Jul 30, 2008
            Earl,
            I'm sure DR has mentioned Denise. By the way, she has a given a name
            to her Vibroplex Deluxe Original,......"Little Dick".
            Milt

            --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, Earl Needham <needhame1@...> wrote:
            >
            > If it's the one I'm thinking of, that was Denise Stoops -- I think
            > that's her first name -- one of the commercial ops at KPH and a VERY
            > good op. I didn't laugh too much while listening to her code and
            > wishing I could operate enough to do that, too!
            >
            > I'm surprised DR hasn't mentioned this yet...
            >
            > 7 3
            > Earl
            >
            > --
            > KD5XB -- Earl Needham
            > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
            > Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT
            >
          • David Ring
            ... Hello Group, Here is a picture of Denice (note spelling) http://www.radiomarine.org/Pictures/HIST-RS-DEN-3.jpg She is de nice one in the middle. Of course
            Message 5 of 12 , Jul 30, 2008
              On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:44 PM, k4oso <k4oso@...> wrote:
              > Earl,
              > I'm sure DR has mentioned Denise. By the way, she has a given a name
              > to her Vibroplex Deluxe Original,......"Little Dick".
              > Milt

              Hello Group,

              Here is a picture of Denice (note spelling)
              http://www.radiomarine.org/Pictures/HIST-RS-DEN-3.jpg
              She is de nice one in the middle. Of course she and "Little Dick"
              were younger but they still look beautiful today after they've had
              their chrome cleaned in preparation for a serious Morse workout.

              Denice is a long time Morse operator, but she only recently got her
              amateur radio license. She is KI6BBR - and she also recently upgraded
              from her 3rd class commercial CW license to her 2nd class commercial
              CW license - and it boggles my mind why she didn't take her Extra at
              the same time. The 2nd class CW is more difficult than the Extra.

              73

              DR

              On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:44 PM, k4oso <k4oso@...> wrote:
              > Earl,
              > I'm sure DR has mentioned Denise. By the way, she has a given a name
              > to her Vibroplex Deluxe Original,......"Little Dick".
              > Milt
              >
              > --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, Earl Needham <needhame1@...> wrote:
              >>
              >> If it's the one I'm thinking of, that was Denise Stoops -- I think
              >> that's her first name -- one of the commercial ops at KPH and a VERY
              >> good op. I didn't laugh too much while listening to her code and
              >> wishing I could operate enough to do that, too!
              >>
              >> I'm surprised DR hasn't mentioned this yet...
              >>
              >> 7 3
              >> Earl
              >>
              >> --
              >> KD5XB -- Earl Needham
              >> Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
              >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
              >> Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT
              >>
              >
              >
              >
              > ------------------------------------
              >
              > Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              >
              >
            • k4oso
              David, Is that a Blue Racer on the operating desk on the right side of the pic? Milt ... name ... upgraded ... commercial ... name ... think ... VERY
              Message 6 of 12 , Jul 30, 2008
                David,
                Is that a Blue Racer on the operating desk on the right side of the
                pic?
                Milt

                --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "David Ring" <n1ea@...> wrote:
                >
                > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:44 PM, k4oso <k4oso@...> wrote:
                > > Earl,
                > > I'm sure DR has mentioned Denise. By the way, she has a given a
                name
                > > to her Vibroplex Deluxe Original,......"Little Dick".
                > > Milt
                >
                > Hello Group,
                >
                > Here is a picture of Denice (note spelling)
                > http://www.radiomarine.org/Pictures/HIST-RS-DEN-3.jpg
                > She is de nice one in the middle. Of course she and "Little Dick"
                > were younger but they still look beautiful today after they've had
                > their chrome cleaned in preparation for a serious Morse workout.
                >
                > Denice is a long time Morse operator, but she only recently got her
                > amateur radio license. She is KI6BBR - and she also recently
                upgraded
                > from her 3rd class commercial CW license to her 2nd class
                commercial
                > CW license - and it boggles my mind why she didn't take her Extra at
                > the same time. The 2nd class CW is more difficult than the Extra.
                >
                > 73
                >
                > DR
                >
                > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:44 PM, k4oso <k4oso@...> wrote:
                > > Earl,
                > > I'm sure DR has mentioned Denise. By the way, she has a given a
                name
                > > to her Vibroplex Deluxe Original,......"Little Dick".
                > > Milt
                > >
                > > --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, Earl Needham <needhame1@> wrote:
                > >>
                > >> If it's the one I'm thinking of, that was Denise Stoops -- I
                think
                > >> that's her first name -- one of the commercial ops at KPH and a
                VERY
                > >> good op. I didn't laugh too much while listening to her code and
                > >> wishing I could operate enough to do that, too!
                > >>
                > >> I'm surprised DR hasn't mentioned this yet...
                > >>
                > >> 7 3
                > >> Earl
                > >>
                > >> --
                > >> KD5XB -- Earl Needham
                > >> Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                > >> Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT
                > >>
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > ------------------------------------
                > >
                > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                >
              • nzeronv
                Bill, It might depend on which version of the Blue Racer people are referring to. It s my impression that the current 2000 version has a higher center of
                Message 7 of 12 , Jul 30, 2008
                  Bill,

                  It might depend on which version of the Blue Racer people are
                  referring to. It's my impression that the current "2000" version has
                  a higher center of gravity than your 1962 model due to the use of the
                  larger, Original Bug mechanism on a narrow base. I've tried a Blue
                  Racer 2000, but not the Blue Racer of old, so I never made a
                  side-by-side comparison. I suspect the older one is a much better
                  balanced key.

                  Jack - N0NV


                  --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <w2blc@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I have read many posts that make comments about Blue Racers tipping
                  > over, rocking, moving all over the desk, etc. What gives with that?
                  >
                  > I recently bought a '62 model and really like it. I was able to set it
                  > very light - as I have my VizBug - and it shows no signs of any
                  > movement.
                  >
                  > My bugs are a little heavier to operate than my Vibroplex single lever
                  > paddle - but not that much. I sure don't look like some of the "you-
                  > Tube" examples slapping the bug around like it is an enemy.
                  >
                  > Am I missing something here?
                  >
                • Richard Meiss
                  Hi, All - This has been a most interesting thread, and following it has given me a lot of insight into the history of bugs and their operators. As a bug user
                  Message 8 of 12 , Jul 30, 2008
                    Hi, All -

                         This has been a most interesting thread, and following it has given me a lot of insight into the history of bugs and their operators.  As a bug user and bug designer, it also has prompted me to make some comments.  It is true that there are challenges in getting a bug to work according to one's personal taste.  Part of this is that the design of bugs (for obvious commercial reasons) has been static for 50 years or more.  While many beautiful bugs are still being produced today (such as the Viz bugs, the Schurr bug, the elegant CHD bugs, and several other makers - sorry to leave some folks out), these bugs are essentially the same designs that have been around for decades.  About 8 years ago, I decided to try a fresh approach to bug design to see if I could address some of the perennial problems.  Some of these results are shown on my website at
                    http:/wb9lpu.googlepages.com
                    While I would hope for you to browse the whole site, I would like to point out one solution to the problem of adjusting the dot weight.  This is shown at
                    http:/wb9lpu.googlepages.com/DotWgt-1.pdf
                    The file at
                    http:/wb9lpu.googlepages.com/Demo-1.mp3
                    is an audio demonstration of the results shown in the .pdf file.
                         I hope that these comments don't sound self-serving, because I really appreciate the feeling of getting a historic instrument to work the way it did many hears ago (as my modest bug collection may show), and I also enjoy hearing from and about those who used telegraphic instruments for a living.  So keep up with the excellent posts, and I will keep learning.

                         73 de Rich, WB9LPU



                    -----Original Message----- hese
                    From: nzeronv
                    Sent: Jul 30, 2008 3:49 PM
                    To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: [cw_bugs] Re: Moving bugs


                    Bill,

                    It might depend on which version of the Blue Racer people are
                    referring to. It's my impression that the current "2000" version has
                    a higher center of gravity than your 1962 model due to the use of the
                    larger, Original Bug mechanism on a narrow base. I've tried a Blue
                    Racer 2000, but not the Blue Racer of old, so I never made a
                    side-by-side comparison. I suspect the older one is a much better
                    balanced key.

                    Jack - N0NV

                    --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups .com, "Bill" <w2blc@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I have read many posts that make comments about Blue Racers tipping
                    > over, rocking, moving all over the desk, etc. What gives with that?
                    >
                    > I recently bought a '62 model and really like it. I was able to set it
                    > very light - as I have my VizBug - and it shows no signs of any
                    > movement.
                    >
                    > My bugs are a little heavier to operate than my Vibroplex single lever
                    > paddle - but not that much. I sure don't look like some of the "you-
                    > Tube" examples slapping the bug around like it is an enemy.
                    >
                    > Am I missing something here?
                    >

                  • David Ring
                    Denice corrects the name of the key. It is not little, it is Mister. Dick. See below message. 73 DR ... From: denice stoops Date:
                    Message 9 of 12 , Jul 30, 2008
                      Denice corrects the name of the key. It is not little, it is Mister.
                      Dick. See below message.

                      73
                      DR

                      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
                      From: denice stoops <da.stoops@...>
                      Date: Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:26 AM
                      Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Re: Moving bugs
                      To: David Ring <n1ea@...>


                      CORRECTION!!!!

                      it's not Little dick"... it's

                      Mister Dick


                      loosely based on a Charles Dickens character "Who says you can never go home"

                      please correct on the e-list

                      David Ring <n1ea@...> wrote:

                      On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:44 PM, k4oso wrote:
                      > Earl,
                      > I'm sure DR has mentioned Denise. By the way, she has a given a name
                      > to her Vibroplex Deluxe Original,......"Little Dick".
                      > Milt

                      Hello Group,

                      Here is a picture of Denice (note spelling)
                      http://www.radiomarine.org/Pictures/HIST-RS-DEN-3.jpg
                      She is de nice one in the middle. Of course she and "Little Dick"
                      were younger but they still look beautiful today after they've had
                      their chrome cleaned in preparation for a serious Morse workout.

                      Denice is a long time Morse operator, but she only recently got her
                      amateur radio license. She is KI6BBR - and she also recently upgraded
                      from her 3rd class commercial CW license to her 2nd class commercial
                      CW license - and it boggles my mind why she didn't take her Extra at
                      the same time. The 2nd class CW is more difficult than the Extra.

                      73

                      DR

                      On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:44 PM, k4oso wrote:
                      > Earl,
                      > I'm sure DR has mentioned Denise. By the way, she has a given a name
                      > to her Vibroplex Deluxe Original,......"Little Dick".
                      > Milt
                      >
                      > --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, Earl Needham wrote:
                      >>
                      >> If it's the one I'm thinking of, that was Denise Stoops -- I think
                      >> that's her first name -- one of the commercial ops at KPH and a VERY
                      >> good op. I didn't laugh too much while listening to her code and
                      >> wishing I could operate enough to do that, too!
                      >>
                      >> I'm surprised DR hasn't mentioned this yet...
                      >>
                      >> 7 3
                      >> Earl
                      >>
                      >> --
                      >> KD5XB -- Earl Needham
                      >> Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                      >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                      >> Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT
                      >>
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > ------------------------------------
                      >
                      > Yahoo! Groups Links
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
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