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  • Earl Needham
    ... Hi, John -- glad to have you. I m taking the liberty of forwarding your message to the list, it should generate some discussion and help get you going.
    Message 1 of 6 , Feb 29, 2008
      At 14:34 2/29/2008, John Klokis wrote:
      >Your full name
      >Your City and State
      >Your Amateur Radio Callsign ( or the reason you would like to join
      >the cw_bugs Yahoogroup
      >
      >John A. Klokis
      >Kulpmont, Pa. 17834
      >K3JK
      >I have recently made arrangements for a loan of a bug. I would like
      >to learn to use a bug. I would appreciate information on operating
      >bugs, and making adjustments to the bugs. And I am also looking for
      >a good used bug to own. Thanks, John A. Klokis K3JK

      Hi, John -- glad to have you. I'm taking the liberty of
      forwarding your message to the list, it should generate some
      discussion and help get you going.

      What kind of bug are you going to borrow?

      7 3
      Earl

      KD5XB -- Earl Needham
      Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
      Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT
    • Jason Hissong
      John, I started using bugs about 90 days ago and I have never looked back. I joined the SKCC which introduced me to them (I also use a real straight key too).
      Message 2 of 6 , Feb 29, 2008
        John,

        I started using bugs about 90 days ago and I have never looked back. I
        joined the SKCC which introduced me to them (I also use a real straight
        key too). I now have 2 bugs and working on getting 2 more. So a bit of
        warning, the things are addictive!! I sold my paddles and keyer and all
        I use are bugs and straight keys.

        They are fun!!

        My bugs (so far):
        1938 Vibroplex Lightning Bug
        1977 Vibroplex Original Deluxe

        I plan on getting a Lionel J36 and an original Blue Racer sometime soon.

        Jason N8XE


        Earl Needham wrote:
        > At 14:34 2/29/2008, John Klokis wrote:
        >
        >> Your full name
        >> Your City and State
        >> Your Amateur Radio Callsign ( or the reason you would like to join
        >> the cw_bugs Yahoogroup
        >>
        >> John A. Klokis
        >> Kulpmont, Pa. 17834
        >> K3JK
        >> I have recently made arrangements for a loan of a bug. I would like
        >> to learn to use a bug. I would appreciate information on operating
        >> bugs, and making adjustments to the bugs. And I am also looking for
        >> a good used bug to own. Thanks, John A. Klokis K3JK
        >>
        >
        > Hi, John -- glad to have you. I'm taking the liberty of
        > forwarding your message to the list, it should generate some
        > discussion and help get you going.
        >
        > What kind of bug are you going to borrow?
        >
        > 7 3
        > Earl
        >
        > KD5XB -- Earl Needham
        > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
        > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
        > Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT
        >
        >
        >


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      • David Ring
        Jason, with a 38 Vibroplex Lightning Bug, you don t need a Lionel J-36, unless you re a model train collector. The 38 is or should be a way better bug.
        Message 3 of 6 , Feb 29, 2008
          Jason, with a '38 Vibroplex Lightning Bug, you don't need a Lionel
          J-36, unless you're a model train collector. The '38 is or should be
          a "way better" bug. Incidentally, around 1938, the name "Lightning
          Bug" was introduced - so the original owner either asked for the old
          name "No. 6 Vibroplex" or he was asking for the new name "Lighting
          Bug".

          Since you already have a classic LB, I'd suggest you go for the
          classic pre-WW2 Blue Racer. They had a small damper platform with a
          little wheel - the same wheel your Model 6 has and the LB, Zephyr and
          Champion have - but it is attached to a small platform. It is a very
          "rare" damper as only the early Blue Racers used them. They also come
          on (usually) a 2-1/2 base - the smallest one Vibroplex made - but be
          sharp - you will occasionally see an odd looking (because of the
          scaled down parts) that have BR parts on a 3 or 3-1/2 (standard) base
          - these were available as special order. If I had to order a BR and
          they were available, I'd order a 3-1/2 inch base variety as they don't
          tip over when you send heavy dashes!

          The Blue Racers (BR) are very fast bugs because they are a scaled down
          sized version of the Original (except for the damper mentioned).
          Later on, they truly became a real scaled down Original. Note the
          current "Blue Racer 2000" is just an Original on a small 2-1/2 inch
          base.
          The slowest speed was about 25 wpm - standard "commercial" speed was
          around 27 wpm (International Morse). Of course that translates to
          faster American (landline) Morse.

          73

          David N1EA


          > My bugs (so far):
          > 1938 Vibroplex Lightning Bug
          > 1977 Vibroplex Original Deluxe
          >
          > I plan on getting a Lionel J36 and an original Blue Racer sometime soon.
          >
        • John
          Once again I am enjoying the emails I have received from the group. I have found out from my friend that the bug he is loaning me is a Vibroplex with a black
          Message 4 of 6 , Mar 2, 2008
            Once again I am enjoying the emails I have received from the group. I
            have found out from my friend that the bug he is loaning me is a
            Vibroplex with a black base and a chrome top, serial number is: 168981
            If anyone knows a manufacturing date or how old this bug is, let me
            know. He said he thinks it is from the 70's. As far as slowing down
            the bug. I am going to try and use the bug as is. The only way I will
            try to slow it down would be if I could not learn it at the lowest
            speed adjustment of the bug. I understand that bugs are faster cw
            keyers. From what I have read, 20 and up for the Vibroplex. I really
            want to thank people who have given me ideas relating to learning the
            bug. I should have the bug end of this week maybe. I will take a
            picture of it and post it in the group photos. tnx fer being hr.
            John K3JK
          • Earl Needham
            ... gives an estimated build date of 1950 -- but some of the dates might be off a bit. ... Vibroplex calls
            Message 5 of 6 , Mar 2, 2008
              At 12:35 3/2/2008, John wrote:

              >Once again I am enjoying the emails I have received from the group. I
              >have found out from my friend that the bug he is loaning me is a
              >Vibroplex with a black base and a chrome top, serial number is: 168981
              >If anyone knows a manufacturing date or how old this bug is, let me
              >know. He said he thinks it is from the 70's.

              <http://www.vibroplex.com/date_your_vibroplex.html> gives an
              estimated build date of 1950 -- but some of the dates might be off a bit.

              > As far as slowing down
              >the bug. I am going to try and use the bug as is. The only way I will
              >try to slow it down would be if I could not learn it at the lowest
              >speed adjustment of the bug.

              At 09:48 3/2/2008, cloud runner wrote:
              >Neither the extendadot nor extra (meaning third) weight methods of
              >slowing bugs down are satisfactory to me. both add a lot of mass to
              >the lever arm and completely changes the feel and handling of the bug.
              >
              >Instead, I suggest the replica of the Hills speed changer made by
              >Tim Soxman and sold by Vibroplex. it has permanent utility because
              >in addition to slowing the bug w-a-y down, it also allows for very
              >quick speed changing at any speed. You put one weight on it, it in
              >itself is about equal to one other weight, so together does not add
              >mass to the lever. when folded back, it places the mass far away
              >from the mainspring so it slows the bug way down, but when folded
              >forward, the bug will go very fast. You will keep using this even
              >after no longer a beginner whereas the extadot is destined for
              >residence in a drawer never to be used again.

              Vibroplex calls this the Varispeed -- picture at
              <http://www.vibroplex.com/accessories.html> toward the bottom. I
              have had two of these, I gave one away with a bug to a dear friend
              who lost everything in Katrina. The Varispeed works well, just as
              described by KT5X, and its indispensable to me when I'm having an off day.

              7 3
              Earl

              KD5XB -- Earl Needham
              Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
              Quoting from the Coast Guard: ZUT
            • hermit
              Hello John - I got my Vibroplex Anniversary bug for Christmas last year - a gift from my wife. My Elmer stressed the importance of adjustments and he gave me
              Message 6 of 6 , Mar 2, 2008
                Hello John -

                I got my Vibroplex Anniversary bug for Christmas last year - a gift
                from my wife. My Elmer stressed the importance of adjustments and he
                gave me a good idea for slowing down the bug until I got used to it.
                He told me to open the dit contact all the way and that helped me
                tremendously. I have since then closed the contact points a wee bit
                as my ability on the bug has improved.

                Just thought I would pass this little tid-bit on to you.

                73

                Rich KB3OMJ

                >Once again I am enjoying the emails I have received from the group. I
                >have found out from my friend that the bug he is loaning me is a
                >Vibroplex with a black base and a chrome top, serial number is: 168981
                >If anyone knows a manufacturing date or how old this bug is, let me
                >know. He said he thinks it is from the 70's. As far as slowing down
                >the bug. I am going to try and use the bug as is. The only way I will
                >try to slow it down would be if I could not learn it at the lowest
                >speed adjustment of the bug. I understand that bugs are faster cw
                >keyers. From what I have read, 20 and up for the Vibroplex. I really
                >want to thank people who have given me ideas relating to learning the
                >bug. I should have the bug end of this week maybe. I will take a
                >picture of it and post it in the group photos. tnx fer being hr.
                >John K3JK
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